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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2020 13:46:05 GMT
Would you say an important element is that the victims can't really defend themselves, or more pertinently, are not known to be able to defend themselves? And what is the slasher killer profile? Mind you, I think we agree. It's just that it's difficult to spell out so perhaps you have some insight. Sort of. Slasher killer profile is a psycho of some sort. There is one exception and that is Chopping Mall, but I am hesitant to call that a slasher movie. Also, the tone of the movie matters. Predator is a sci-fi action movie with horror elements, the same as The Terminator. It is a couple steps removed from a slasher movie. Replace the predator with a tribe of cannibals and the military men into college students and now you have a slasher movie. Slasher movies are a sub-category of the horror genre and now I have changed the entire tone of the movie by changing only 2 things, but 2 very important things. Sometimes the changes in tone are very subtle. Rituals and Deliverance are very similar, but I don't consider Deliverance a horror movie. I dig that. If you had to lay it out as a set of guidelines to say "This is probably a slasher film" but not to define a slasher film (some break with convention), what would they be?
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Post by Ransom on Dec 17, 2020 13:51:01 GMT
Would you say an important element is that the victims can't really defend themselves, or more pertinently, are not known to be able to defend themselves? And what is the slasher killer profile? Mind you, I think we agree. It's just that it's difficult to spell out so perhaps you have some insight. Sort of. Slasher killer profile is a psycho of some sort. There is one exception and that is Chopping Mall, but I am hesitant to call that a slasher movie. Also, the tone of the movie matters. Predator is a sci-fi action movie with horror elements, the same as The Terminator. It is a couple steps removed from a slasher movie. Replace the predator with a tribe of cannibals and the military men into college students and now you have a slasher movie. Slasher movies are a sub-category of the horror genre and now I have changed the entire tone of the movie by changing only 2 things, but 2 very important things. Sometimes the changes in tone are subtle, but important. Rituals and Deliverance are very similar, but I don't consider Deliverance a horror movie. The Predator is a psycho. Skinning humans alive is a dead giveaway. |
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Post by Winter_King on Dec 17, 2020 13:55:14 GMT
Sort of. Slasher killer profile is a psycho of some sort. There is one exception and that is Chopping Mall, but I am hesitant to call that a slasher movie. Also, the tone of the movie matters. Predator is a sci-fi action movie with horror elements, the same as The Terminator. It is a couple steps removed from a slasher movie. Replace the predator with a tribe of cannibals and the military men into college students and now you have a slasher movie. Slasher movies are a sub-category of the horror genre and now I have changed the entire tone of the movie by changing only 2 things, but 2 very important things. Sometimes the changes in tone are subtle, but important. Rituals and Deliverance are very similar, but I don't consider Deliverance a horror movie. The Predator is a psycho. Skinning humans alive is a dead giveaway. Well... Some might argue that Predator not being human is just trophy hunting. Humans don't usually skin animals alive but we also hunt animals for sport and skin them afterwards. The Predator is not that different from a human hunter. And I wouldn't call hunters psychos.
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Post by Ransom on Dec 17, 2020 14:03:14 GMT
The Predator is a psycho. Skinning humans alive is a dead giveaway. Well... Some might argue that Predator not being human is just trophy hunting. Humans don't usually skin animals alive but we also hunt animals for sport and skin them afterwards. The Predator is not that different from a human hunter. And I wouldn't call hunters psychos. But the Predator can spare pregnant human women instead like it did in Predator 2. Humans having weapons makes the Predator a psychopath I don't believe they're that stupid to think humans won't retaliate. Fish catchers don't have to face armed fish. |
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Post by moviemouth on Dec 17, 2020 14:06:04 GMT
Sort of. Slasher killer profile is a psycho of some sort. There is one exception and that is Chopping Mall, but I am hesitant to call that a slasher movie. Also, the tone of the movie matters. Predator is a sci-fi action movie with horror elements, the same as The Terminator. It is a couple steps removed from a slasher movie. Replace the predator with a tribe of cannibals and the military men into college students and now you have a slasher movie. Slasher movies are a sub-category of the horror genre and now I have changed the entire tone of the movie by changing only 2 things, but 2 very important things. Sometimes the changes in tone are very subtle. Rituals and Deliverance are very similar, but I don't consider Deliverance a horror movie. I dig that. If you had to lay it out as a set of guidelines to say "This is probably a slasher film" but not to define a slasher film (some break with convention), what would they be? A psycho (either human or former human) stalking and killing a group of young adults, typically females. Either driven by revenge or no motivation at all.
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Post by moviemouth on Dec 17, 2020 14:07:35 GMT
Sort of. Slasher killer profile is a psycho of some sort. There is one exception and that is Chopping Mall, but I am hesitant to call that a slasher movie. Also, the tone of the movie matters. Predator is a sci-fi action movie with horror elements, the same as The Terminator. It is a couple steps removed from a slasher movie. Replace the predator with a tribe of cannibals and the military men into college students and now you have a slasher movie. Slasher movies are a sub-category of the horror genre and now I have changed the entire tone of the movie by changing only 2 things, but 2 very important things. Sometimes the changes in tone are subtle, but important. Rituals and Deliverance are very similar, but I don't consider Deliverance a horror movie. The Predator is a psycho. Skinning humans alive is a dead giveaway. Psycho is a term to describe humans. It doesn't apply to aliens or animals.
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Post by Winter_King on Dec 17, 2020 14:17:12 GMT
Well... Some might argue that Predator not being human is just trophy hunting. Humans don't usually skin animals alive but we also hunt animals for sport and skin them afterwards. The Predator is not that different from a human hunter. And I wouldn't call hunters psychos. But the Predator can spare pregnant human women instead like it did in Predator 2. Humans having weapons makes the Predator a psychopath I don't believe they're that stupid to think humans won't retaliate. Fish catchers don't have to face armed fish. Technically this is no different then what trophy hunters do. They don't for the weakest animals, but they try to hunt the bigger and stronger animal because it poses more of challenge. The Predator doesn't go after the woman but after the soldiers because they are more challenging prey.
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Post by moviemouth on Dec 17, 2020 14:21:55 GMT
But the Predator can spare pregnant human women instead like it did in Predator 2. Humans having weapons makes the Predator a psychopath I don't believe they're that stupid to think humans won't retaliate. Fish catchers don't have to face armed fish. Technically this is no different then what trophy hunters do. They don't for the weakest animals, but they try to hunt the bigger and stronger animal because it poses more of challenge. The Predator doesn't go after the woman but after the soldiers because they are more challenging prey. Psycho is a term specifically referring to human beings. Aliens are a different species. If the predator in the original was a rarity within it's own species then it might qualify as a psycho, but it is insinuated in the original and shown in the sequels that hunting other species for sport is a trademark of their species.
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Post by Ransom on Dec 17, 2020 14:28:42 GMT
But the Predator can spare pregnant human women instead like it did in Predator 2. Humans having weapons makes the Predator a psychopath I don't believe they're that stupid to think humans won't retaliate. Fish catchers don't have to face armed fish. Technically this is no different then what trophy hunters do. They don't for the weakest animals, but they try to hunt the bigger and stronger animal because it poses more of challenge. The Predator doesn't go after the woman but after the soldiers because they are more challenging prey. Subjective hunting is one thing I could never take seriously in the Predator franchise. Pregnant woman or not: she's a threat. What an alien savage deems as challenging is shit. Yes a pregnant woman isn't a challenge but as it's a creature that hunted facehuggers that are known for impregnating beings with xenomorphs too I can't really believe that. |
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Post by Ransom on Dec 17, 2020 14:31:29 GMT
Technically this is no different then what trophy hunters do. They don't for the weakest animals, but they try to hunt the bigger and stronger animal because it poses more of challenge. The Predator doesn't go after the woman but after the soldiers because they are more challenging prey. Psycho is a term specifically referring to human beings. Aliens are a different species. If the predator in the original was a rarity within it's own species then it might qualify as a psycho, but it is insinuated in the original and shown in the sequels that hunting other species for sport is a trademark of their species. And human serial killers have daddy issues how dare you call them psychopaths. |
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Post by Winter_King on Dec 17, 2020 14:32:13 GMT
Technically this is no different then what trophy hunters do. They don't for the weakest animals, but they try to hunt the bigger and stronger animal because it poses more of challenge. The Predator doesn't go after the woman but after the soldiers because they are more challenging prey. Subjective hunting is one thing I could never take seriously in the Predator franchise. Pregnant woman or not: she's a threat. What an alien savage deems as challenging is shit. Yes a pregnant woman isn't a challenge but as it's a creature that hunted facehuggers that are known for impregnating beings with xenomorphs too I can't really believe that. I don't think the Predators hunted facehuggers but full grown xenomorphs. At least I never saw them doing it. In any case what I'm trying to say is that the Predator is more like a trophy hunter than a psycho killer. He does it for the sport just like human hunters do.
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Post by moviemouth on Dec 17, 2020 14:32:21 GMT
Technically this is no different then what trophy hunters do. They don't for the weakest animals, but they try to hunt the bigger and stronger animal because it poses more of challenge. The Predator doesn't go after the woman but after the soldiers because they are more challenging prey. Subjective hunting is one thing I could never take seriously in the Predator franchise. Pregnant woman or not: she's a threat. What an alien savage deems as challenging is shit. Yes a pregnant woman isn't a challenge but as it's a creature that hunted facehuggers that are known for impregnating beings with xenomorphs too I can't really believe that. Facehuggers are a huge threat to anything they come into contact with. Comparing them to pregnant women is beyond ridiculous.
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Post by moviemouth on Dec 17, 2020 14:34:19 GMT
Psycho is a term specifically referring to human beings. Aliens are a different species. If the predator in the original was a rarity within it's own species then it might qualify as a psycho, but it is insinuated in the original and shown in the sequels that hunting other species for sport is a trademark of their species. And human serial killers have daddy issues how dare you call them psychopaths. Ah, you are one of the types that resorts to nonsense when you are shown to be wrong about something. I should have known that you would fall back into the immaturity again.
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Post by Ransom on Dec 17, 2020 14:38:08 GMT
Subjective hunting is one thing I could never take seriously in the Predator franchise. Pregnant woman or not: she's a threat. What an alien savage deems as challenging is shit. Yes a pregnant woman isn't a challenge but as it's a creature that hunted facehuggers that are known for impregnating beings with xenomorphs too I can't really believe that. I don't think the Predators hunted facehuggers but full grown xenomorphs. At least I never saw them doing it. In any case what I'm trying to say is that the Predator is more like a trophy hunter than a psycho killer. He does it for the sport just like human hunters do. The AVP movies and mythology are your friends. Yes then hunting for sports should not exclude pregnant women then. It doesn't make sense. |
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Post by Ransom on Dec 17, 2020 14:39:14 GMT
And human serial killers have daddy issues how dare you call them psychopaths. Ah, you are one of the types that resorts to nonsense when you are shown to be wrong about something. I should have known that you would fall back into the immaturity again. I'm giving crazy an excuse just like you. Stop being immature. |
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Post by moviemouth on Dec 17, 2020 14:39:51 GMT
I don't think the Predators hunted facehuggers but full grown xenomorphs. At least I never saw them doing it. In any case what I'm trying to say is that the Predator is more like a trophy hunter than a psycho killer. He does it for the sport just like human hunters do. The AVP movies and mythology are your friends. Yes then hunting for sports should not exclude pregnant women then. It doesn't make sense. Is it your goal to have nobody talk to you anymore? If that is your goal, then you are going about it perfectly.
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Post by Ransom on Dec 17, 2020 14:41:28 GMT
The AVP movies and mythology are your friends. Yes then hunting for sports should not exclude pregnant women then. It doesn't make sense. Is it your goal to have nobody talk to you anymore? If that is your goal, then you are going about it perfectly. You don't speak for everybody now buzz off. |
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Post by Winter_King on Dec 17, 2020 14:47:07 GMT
I don't think the Predators hunted facehuggers but full grown xenomorphs. At least I never saw them doing it. In any case what I'm trying to say is that the Predator is more like a trophy hunter than a psycho killer. He does it for the sport just like human hunters do. The AVP movies and mythology are your friends. Yes then hunting for sports should not exclude pregnant women then. It doesn't make sense.It kind does because a pregnant woman would not pose a threat to Predator as armed commando. Like said: trophy hunting involves killing the biggest specimen and take some parts as trophies. Human trophy hunters will not hunt a pregnant lioness or a pregnant doe. They hunt the lion or the buck. If you watch Roland Tembo from The Lost World Jurassic Park you see what I'm talking about. He wants to hunt the male T-Rex, not the female or the infant. The Predator is no different.
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Post by Ransom on Dec 17, 2020 14:49:39 GMT
The AVP movies and mythology are your friends. Yes then hunting for sports should not exclude pregnant women then. It doesn't make sense.It kind does because a pregnant woman would not pose a threat to Predator as armed commando. Like said: trophy hunting involves killing the biggest specimen and take some parts as trophies. Human trophy hunters will not hunt a pregnant lioness or a pregnant doe. They hunt the lion or the buck. If you watch Roland Tembo from The Lost World Jurassic Park you see what I'm talking about. He wants to hunt the male T-Rex, not the female or the infant. The Predator is no different. Watch the AVP movies then come back to me. |
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Post by Winter_King on Dec 17, 2020 14:52:01 GMT
It kind does because a pregnant woman would not pose a threat to Predator as armed commando. Like said: trophy hunting involves killing the biggest specimen and take some parts as trophies. Human trophy hunters will not hunt a pregnant lioness or a pregnant doe. They hunt the lion or the buck. If you watch Roland Tembo from The Lost World Jurassic Park you see what I'm talking about. He wants to hunt the male T-Rex, not the female or the infant. The Predator is no different. Watch the AVP movies then come back to me. I watched the first and I'm not watching the second. The first one sucked and imagine that the second one is even worse.
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