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Post by vegalyra on Dec 17, 2020 1:44:40 GMT
Not necessarily films that are about Christmas but take place during Christmas (although Christmas themed films are welcomed). I'm looking for suggestions to add to my normal list of films that I watch during the lead up to the holiday. I'm mainly interested in pre 1960 films.
The ones I typically watch are:
1. It's a Wonderful Life 2. Christmas in Connecticut 3. White Christmas 4. Holiday Inn 5. A Christmas Carol (the 1938 and 1951 versions are my favorite) 6. A Christmas Story (one of the few later Christmas films I like a lot)
Any recommendations are welcome.
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Post by Isapop on Dec 17, 2020 2:05:14 GMT
Well, Miracle On 34th Street.
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Post by novastar6 on Dec 17, 2020 2:07:09 GMT
A Christmas Carol from 1935, there's the full version, and a cut version, both work but when and where possible, always watch the full version.
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Post by marshamae on Dec 17, 2020 2:36:46 GMT
Miracle on Thirty Fourth Street- very witty script and outstanding performances
It’s a wonderful life- might be Jimmy Stewart’s best film
White Christmas - wonderful score and great choreography, Rosie Clooney spectacular and Bing and Danny clowning as sisters.
Holiday Inn- another wonderful score , in fact it’s the same great score! Well, anyway a lot of Crossover. The same Inn, wonderful Fred Astaire numbers, in fact my favorite Astaire solo Lets say it with firecrackers.
Elf- sorry but when will Farrell shrieks SANTA I know him , I crack up every time.
Christmas Carol- for me the real version is 1951 , another one where I always cry when he goes to his nephew’s house.
One last one I highly recommend - FANNY AND ALEXANDER. The red part of the movie, full of passion, bad boundaries , people dancing through the bedrooms with lighted candles. There is risk, but there is warmth and love, then the white section of the film, the icy cold minister’s house whose Love is buried in a block of ice, and the magic needed to free them. I always watch it on Christmas Eve.
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Post by divtal on Dec 17, 2020 3:41:10 GMT
Desk Set, with Tracy and Hepburn, isn't actually a Christmas Movie. But a good portion of it involves Christmas party atmosphere in the work place. It's a film that I love to watch this time of year.
Meet Me in St. Louis, also has a lengthy segment that is devoted to Christmas celebrations.
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Post by teleadm on Dec 17, 2020 7:37:12 GMT
We're No Angels 1955 The Man Who Came to Dinner 1942 Holiday Affair 1949  maybe...
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Post by timshelboy on Dec 17, 2020 9:46:00 GMT
THE APARTMENT is my ideal NYE watch
MEET ME IN ST LOUIS CHRISTMAS IN CONNECTICUT WHITE CHRISTMAS LOVE ACTUALLY 
THE INNOCENTS and THE HAUNTING are not exactly typically festive but both seem to work especially well as chillers at Xmas
THE SILENT PARTNER is a bit less classic (1978) and fairly brutal but does have a very bad Santa robbing banks.
Below is my favourite ever screen Santa.
Name the dreamboat that played him and the prize of a Vera Hruba Ralston complete box set is yours!
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Post by mikef6 on Dec 17, 2020 16:26:19 GMT
I, too, like my Christmas with a bit of an edge (and sometimes with a razor sharp edge).
Big Business / James W. Horne and Leo McCarey (1929). Laurel and Hardy are selling Christmas trees door-to-door in warm sunny southern California when they meet their frequent nemesis James Finlayson. Classic comedy chaos ensues as only L&H can do it.
Christmas Holiday / Robert Siodmak (1944). Directed by a film noir legend. A soldier meets a prostitute (Deanna Durbin) who is trying to escape her convict husband (Gene Kelly) and his controlling mother (Gale Sondergaard). Sad. Perfect for Christmas.
Lady On A Train / Charles David (1945). Nikki Collins (Deanna Durbin again) is on a train and engrossed in a mystery novel during the Christmas season. From her train window she sees a murder in an office building but no one believes her. “Silent Night” has never been my favorite Christmas song but Deanna delivers a knockout rendition, the best I have ever heard the song performed.
The Apartment / Billy Wilder (1960). C.C. "Bud" Baxter (Jack Lemmon), a lowly insurance company clerk, lets executives use his apartment for their extramarital affairs. He is attracted to elevator operator Fran Kubilik (Shirley MacLaine) who visits his apartment with Baxter’s boss, Mr. Sheldrake (Fred MacMurray).
Cash on Demand / Quentin Lawrence (1961). A light riff on Dickens’ well-worn story. Peter Cushing plays a tyrannical branch bank manager who, on Christmas Eve, is forced to help rob his own bank to save his wife and child.
A Christmas Story / Bob Clark (1983). You’ll shoot your eye out if you don’t watch this Christmas perennial about little Ralphie and his quest for a premium air rifle.
Die Hard / John McTiernan (1988). Classic action film that set the pattern and the standard for so many movies to follow. New York City police detective John McClane goes to L.A. on Christmas Eve to try to reconcile with his wife. She is at a Christmas Party at a skyscraper that is taken over by thieves posing as terrorists. McClane is loose in the building and determined to bring down the Bad Guys.
Rare Exports / Jalmari Helander (2010). In northern Finland, archeologists uncover the tomb of the real Santa Claus behind the legend, a monster with a gang of demons who eat children.
A Christmas Carol / "Doctor Who" Christmas Special (2010). On a distant planet, the rich old Scrooge-like ruler (guest star Michael Gambon) will not allow a space liner to land, dooming it to crash. The Doctor takes an inspiration from Dickens’ story to try to turn him good. Lots of delicious imaginative time travel paradoxes to keep you sharp. You might even get a little misty eyed.
Last Christmas / "Doctor Who" Christmas Special (2014). Beautifully plotted with many twists and turns, wonderfully acted by the entire cast, and continually surprising. Guest starring Nick Frost as……..wait for it……..Santa Claus!. As The Doctor says, “Do you know what the big problem is in telling fantasy and reality apart? They’re both ridiculous!”
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Post by Archelaus on Dec 17, 2020 17:29:30 GMT
It's a Wonderful Life White Christmas A Christmas Carol (1938) Scrooge (1951) Meet Me in St. Louis The Shop Around the Corner Holiday Inn Miracle on 34th Street (1947) Bell, Book and Candle Babes in Toyland (1961)
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Post by Salzmank on Dec 17, 2020 17:50:56 GMT
Seconding all of yours, vegalyra , especially Christmas in Connecticut, It’s a Wonderful Life, and A Christmas Story. I’ve got to watch Miracle on 34th Street again this year—for some reason only the (weaker, more saccharine) remake seems to show up on TV. I do far prefer Holiday Inn to White Christmas, but as bleh as the latter’s filmmaking is it is entertaining. Scrooge 1951 is kinda strange for me. Alastair Sim is one of my favorite actors, and this version’s filmmaking is exceptional, and yet Sim’s never convinced me as Scrooge. That’s not because of his acting, just because of his voice and appearance. There’s really nothing I can (or even want to) criticize; it’s just that Sim isn’t my image of Scrooge. Still, it’s a fine film. A few that haven’t yet been mentioned: That other Jimmy Stewart Christmas movie, The Shop Around the Corner (1940, dir. Ernst Lubitsch). Only the ending takes place at Christmas, but what a memorable, Christmassy ending it is. No saccharinity here—these feel like real people in a tough situation who deal with real issues with humor, love, and charm. And it’s Lubitsch, with some of the best gags (camera and dialogue) ever. And Frank Morgan, who gives perhaps his best performance in a long career of great performances. And a hilariously sycophantic Joseph Schildkraut. And definitely William Tracy’s best performance (“Too much”). What a movie. I saw It Happened on 5th Avenue (1947, dir. Roy Del Ruth) for the first time this year. Also not that much of a Christmas movie—again, only the ending takes place at Christmas—but a sweet, charming comedy all the same. A bit long, but well-paced, with a magnificent central Charlie Ruggles performance. The Bishop’s Wife (1947, dir. Henry Koster) may not entirely hold together, but it does have some great stuff in it. I think Christmas in Connecticut (1945) is funnier than the similar Remember the Night (1940, dir. Mitchell Leisen), but the earlier film is first-class all the same, with memorable Leisen direction and one of those excellent Preston Sturges scripts that, as Andrew Sarris put it, pivot “in one poetic pirouette from the sunny to the somber.” Two that aren’t “Christmas movies” but do take place at Christmas: bizarre first-person-camera private-eye thriller Lady in the Lake (1947, dir. Robert Montgomery) and producer Val Lewton’s poetic and beautiful Curse of the Cat People (1944, dirs. Gunther von Frisch and Robert Wise; pay no attention to the title). Oh, and The Thin Man (1934, dir. W.S. Van Dyke). But that goes without saying.  Has anyone here seen The Cheaters (1945, dir. Joseph Kane)? I’ve seen it recommended in a few places. EDIT 1: Oh, and I forgot to mention a modern one I unexpectedly loved: Klaus (2019, dir. Sergio Pablos). Gorgeous animation and hilarious, inventive jokes and gags. Remarkably good and original. EDIT 2: I also have to mention the sweet but spooky “Christmas Party” segment (dir. Alberto Cavalcanti) of the great anthology horror film Dead of Night (1945).
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Post by Prime etc. on Dec 17, 2020 18:28:43 GMT
A Christmas Carol from 1935, there's the full version, and a cut version, both work but when and where possible, always watch the full version. Heard of this last year--want to check it out. Goes by the title "Scrooge."
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Post by marshamae on Dec 17, 2020 19:50:51 GMT
Olive the Other Reindeer. - a delightful rarely shown animated classic about a sweeet beagle named Olive who hears a. Radio message calling all of the other reindeer, and believes Santa is calling her to the North Pole for service. The script ,characters and songs are cleverly adult and witty without being too much for children. Don’t know why this is not better known,
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Post by marianne48 on Dec 17, 2020 21:06:21 GMT
Movies that aren't really about Christmas, but have a Christmas setting:
Moonstruck: The holidays are never mentioned in the film, but the carriage horses at the Met are all wearing Santa hats.
Trading Places: Christmas is coming, and Eddie Murphy is concerned about the investors being worried about being able to afford the GI Joes with the Kung Fu grip for their kids for Christmas. The indelible holiday image this film presents, though, is Dan Aykroyd, as a drunken Santa, getting that slab of salmon or whatever it was stuck in his ratty beard.
Actual holiday films: Miracle on 34th Street (1947): Some Christmas films get away with being sloppily sentimental or corny, which is excusable because, well, it's Christmas. But this movie doesn't take that easy way out--it's actually a sharp, clever movie with equal parts sentimentality and cynicism. A review of it mentioned that nearly every adult in the movie uses Santa to his/her own ends--from Doris, who needs a Santa for her job and patronizes the old guy; to Fred, who just wants to get with Doris; to Mr. Macy, who doesn't want a scandal attached to his store; to the judge who doesn't want to lose the upcoming election. Even the climax of the film is the result of a postal worker who doesn't want to deal with letters to Santa, so he sends the mail to the courthouse. There are moments of real seriousness--while most of them went over the heads of child viewers, adult audiences at the time were likely more aware of what happened to the little Dutch orphan who talks with Santa; they would have known immediately about her past as soon as the mother mentions Rotterdam. Alfred is accused, by the psychologist, of borderline perversion when the "doctor" implies that he has ulterior motives for enjoying his time with little children. These moments are balanced with lots of funny scenes and great performances by everyone, even actors in the smallest of parts--Mrs. Shellhammer, with her "simply charming" invitation to Kringle; the psychologist's secretary who has developed the same nervous tic of plucking at her eyebrows that her boss has, etc. And in the end, the story of having faith and believing that most people are capable of being good in the long run is a lovely moral for the Christmas season, and every other season. Beware the 1994 remake!! I attempted to watch that mess once and only got through the first half hour before switching it off.
A Christmas Story--A great holiday movie, maybe because it's not the sentimental, heartwarming movie it at first appears to be. Jean Shepherd was a cynical curmudgeonly type whose radio monologues (which I used to listen to for a few years in the 1970s) could get pretty dark, so on my first viewing of this movie, I thought it was somewhat sanitized and childish. Repeat viewings, however, bring out the underside of the story--it's really about disappointment and how things generally don't work out, but you just put up with them, especially when you're a kid and you can still look at Christmas with an unjaundiced gaze. Ralphie discovering that the Ovaltine company's decoder ring is a gimmick to hoodwink kids into buying their product is a disillusionment that all kids have to experience at some point; his reaction--"Son of a bitch!" is one of the few times, IMO, that a profanity in a movie is completely justified (and genuinely funny). One of Shepherd's last lines in the film--when he says that his rifle was "the best gift that I ever received...or would ever receive" implies that it was all kind of downhill from there. Still, the movie remains charming.
There are also the two contributions of the Johns family to the list of great holiday films. Mervyn Johns, as Bob Cratchit in the 1951 Scrooge aka A Christmas Carol, gives a memorable performance as Scrooge's loyal clerk, whose attempts to remain upbeat and cheerful make his breakdown in the Christmas yet to come sequence of the film that much more heartbreaking. Of course, Alastair Sim is the greatest Scrooge ever. Over forty years later, Johns' daughter, Glynis Johns, is memorably rotten as the sniping mother-in-law in The Ref,a dark obscenity-filled comedy starring Denis Leary as a burglar who tries to rob the wrong house at Christmastime--it's occupied by a dysfunctional family he ends up counseling (to the mother-in-law: "Your husband didn't die, lady...He's hidin'"). For those who like their holiday movies with a little more bite, but don't want to go as low as Bad Santa.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Dec 17, 2020 23:10:30 GMT
an annual must see
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Post by Doghouse6 on Dec 18, 2020 0:39:37 GMT
I, too, like my Christmas with a bit of an edge (and sometimes with a razor sharp edge). They don't come with edges much more razor-sharp than Psycho.  The view of Phoenix through Marion Crane's windshield on an unseasonably warm December 11th.
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Post by mikef6 on Dec 18, 2020 2:11:22 GMT
I, too, like my Christmas with a bit of an edge (and sometimes with a razor sharp edge). They don't come with edges much more razor-sharp than Psycho.  The view of Phoenix through Marion Crane's windshield on an unseasonably warm December 11th. Wow. As many times as I've watched Psycho (and there have been many) that has always gotten by me. Thanks
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Post by Doghouse6 on Dec 18, 2020 3:36:00 GMT
They don't come with edges much more razor-sharp than Psycho.  The view of Phoenix through Marion Crane's windshield on an unseasonably warm December 11th. Wow. As many times as I've watched Psycho (and there have been many) that has always gotten by me. Thanks You may recall multiple dialogue references to the heat in early scenes, but when the second unit got to Phoenix in late '59, the city already had its street decorations up. Rather than send them back again after the holidays, the story goes that an unconcerned Hitchcock merely decided to set the story in December, which was established just after the opening credits ( Phoenix, Arizona...Friday, December the Eleventh...Two Forty-Three P.M.), so those incidental indicators are the only acknowledgement of the season that the film - which happens to conclude five days before Xmas - makes. Just something to be filed under Overlooked Film Trivia.
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Post by vegalyra on Dec 18, 2020 12:04:42 GMT
Wow, great recommendations! Thank you all for the assistance. Lots of interesting films to check out. I also never noticed the decorations in Psycho either.
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Post by claudius on Dec 18, 2020 12:16:08 GMT
Movies that aren't really about Christmas, but have a Christmas setting: Moonstruck: The holidays are never mentioned in the film, but the carriage horses at the Met are all wearing Santa hats. Trading Places: Christmas is coming, and Eddie Murphy is concerned about the investors being worried about being able to afford the GI Joes with the Kung Fu grip for their kids for Christmas. The indelible holiday image this film presents, though, is Dan Aykroyd, as a drunken Santa, getting that slab of salmon or whatever it was stuck in his ratty beard. Actual holiday films: Miracle on 34th Street (1947): Some Christmas films get away with being sloppily sentimental or corny, which is excusable because, well, it's Christmas. But this movie doesn't take that easy way out--it's actually a sharp, clever movie with equal parts sentimentality and cynicism. A review of it mentioned that nearly every adult in the movie uses Santa to his/her own ends--from Doris, who needs a Santa for her job and patronizes the old guy; to Fred, who just wants to get with Doris; to Mr. Macy, who doesn't want a scandal attached to his store; to the judge who doesn't want to lose the upcoming election. Even the climax of the film is the result of a postal worker who doesn't want to deal with letters to Santa, so he sends the mail to the courthouse. There are moments of real seriousness--while most of them went over the heads of child viewers, adult audiences at the time were likely more aware of what happened to the little Dutch orphan who talks with Santa; they would have known immediately about her past as soon as the mother mentions Rotterdam. Alfred is accused, by the psychologist, of borderline perversion when the "doctor" implies that he has ulterior motives for enjoying his time with little children. These moments are balanced with lots of funny scenes and great performances by everyone, even actors in the smallest of parts--Mrs. Shellhammer, with her "simply charming" invitation to Kringle; the psychologist's secretary who has developed the same nervous tic of plucking at her eyebrows that her boss has, etc. And in the end, the story of having faith and believing that most people are capable of being good in the long run is a lovely moral for the Christmas season, and every other season. Beware the 1994 remake!! I attempted to watch that mess once and only got through the first half hour before switching it off. A Christmas Story--A great holiday movie, maybe because it's not the sentimental, heartwarming movie it at first appears to be. Jean Shepherd was a cynical curmudgeonly type whose radio monologues (which I used to listen to for a few years in the 1970s) could get pretty dark, so on my first viewing of this movie, I thought it was somewhat sanitized and childish. Repeat viewings, however, bring out the underside of the story--it's really about disappointment and how things generally don't work out, but you just put up with them, especially when you're a kid and you can still look at Christmas with an unjaundiced gaze. Ralphie discovering that the Ovaltine company's decoder ring is a gimmick to hoodwink kids into buying their product is a disillusionment that all kids have to experience at some point; his reaction--"Son of a bitch!" is one of the few times, IMO, that a profanity in a movie is completely justified (and genuinely funny). One of Shepherd's last lines in the film--when he says that his rifle was "the best gift that I ever received...or would ever receive" implies that it was all kind of downhill from there. Still, the movie remains charming. There are also the two contributions of the Johns family to the list of great holiday films. Mervyn Johns, as Bob Cratchit in the 1951 Scrooge aka A Christmas Carol, gives a memorable performance as Scrooge's loyal clerk, whose attempts to remain upbeat and cheerful make his breakdown in the Christmas yet to come sequence of the film that much more heartbreaking. Of course, Alastair Sim is the greatest Scrooge ever. Over forty years later, Johns' daughter, Glynis Johns, is memorably rotten as the sniping mother-in-law in The Ref,a dark obscenity-filled comedy starring Denis Leary as a burglar who tries to rob the wrong house at Christmastime--it's occupied by a dysfunctional family he ends up counseling (to the mother-in-law: "Your husband didn't die, lady...He's hidin'"). For those who like their holiday movies with a little more bite, but don't want to go as low as Bad Santa. A similar film in my XMAS watching is the 1935 version of A TALE OF TWO CITIES. Released in the Christmas season, this production adds a sequence where Lucie Manette invites the bar-hopping drunk Sydney Carton to Christmas Mass. The scene is used to show Sydney falling for Lucie and realizing his potential to be a better man. "O Come All Ye Faithful" becomes his theme piece, playing when he tells Lorry about his plan to sacrifice himself, and it's the ending piece played after "Tis a Far Far Better Thing..." line. There are also the Christmas scenes in LITTLE WOMEN (1933 and 1949) Both under the same script, the films begin in the holiday. The 1949 version has the March sisters go on a $1 shopping spree and sing "They Came Upon A Midnight Clear" on the way home. They then go back for refunds to buy their mother gifts. Mr. Johns also appeared in a Christmas episode of THE AVENGERS (1966) "Too Many Christmas Trees" He plays a Dickens Fanboy who invites John Steed and Emma Peel to his mansion for the Holiday, with the Christmas Party being a masquerade for Dickens characters. He's Fezziwig. Steed is Sydney Carton. Emma is Oliver Twist.
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🎄😷🎄 on Dec 18, 2020 18:07:02 GMT
Has anyone ever seen the Arnold Schwarzenegger remake of Christmas in Connecticut (1992)? I need fresh movies and I just remembered I never did see this. Any good? 
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