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Post by dirtypillows on Jan 19, 2021 3:00:04 GMT
All art constantly aspires to the condition of music- Walter Pater Sounds interesting, but I'm not sure I know what it means. |
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Jan 19, 2021 3:15:56 GMT
All art constantly aspires to the condition of music- Walter Pater Sounds interesting, but I'm not sure I know what it means. I think it has something to do with how inherently abstract music is. All other artforms/media can quite easily represent something "real" (a novel can tell a story that "sounds" like real life, a painting can easily be interpreted as an actual object or thing/things that exist). Music (outside of lyrics) even in it's most traditional form is completely abstract and unrepresentative of anything definitive. For other artforms to get even close to achieving this they have to move so far away from the traditional norms of the medium. That's just my interpretation of it.
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Post by Morgana on Jan 19, 2021 8:52:11 GMT
'Ask not for whom the bells tolls...it tolls for thee...' John Donne.
When I understood what this meant it opened my eyes as to how I should see the world and the people in it.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jan 19, 2021 9:23:47 GMT
"Music is the highest of the arts. It needs no reference to the figurative... or the corporeal. It is therefore, of all the arts, the closest to death."
Maurice - 87' Dir James Ivory
Don't know if this is in direct reference to E.M. Forster's novel as I haven't read, or written into the script by screenwriters Ivory and Kit Hesketh-Harvey
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Post by Harmless elf on Jan 19, 2021 16:23:45 GMT
"Before setting off on your path of revenge dig 2 graves."
I like it because it's very true
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Post by gameboy on Jan 19, 2021 16:34:18 GMT
"Before setting off on your path of revenge dig 2 graves." I like it because it's very true Sorry, but I dug only one. Yours.
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Post by Harmless elf on Jan 19, 2021 16:38:56 GMT
"Before setting off on your path of revenge dig 2 graves." I like it because it's very true Sorry, but I dug only one. Yours. Would have been cooler if you said "Just as long as one of them's yours" That was a cool movie |
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Post by gameboy on Jan 19, 2021 16:48:46 GMT
Sorry, but I dug only one. Yours. Would have been cooler if you said "Just as long as one of them's yours" That was a cool movie I was only joking. But sometimes revenge is just, vindication is sweet, and there's only one body.
I didn't see the movie. It's obviously not Clint Eastwood or Charles Bronson.
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Post by Jep Gambardella on Jan 19, 2021 17:00:11 GMT
Before the pandemic I used to go visit customers often, and I always said “once more unto the breach” to myself just before walking in.
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Post by Harmless elf on Jan 19, 2021 17:00:36 GMT
Would have been cooler if you said "Just as long as one of them's yours" That was a cool movie I was only joking. But sometimes revenge is just, vindication is sweet, and there's only one body.
I didn't see the movie. It's obviously not Clint Eastwood or Charles Bronson.
It was actually from the movie Alex Cross, it may just have been in the TV trailer, but it was cool. |
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Post by dirtypillows on Jan 19, 2021 17:05:00 GMT
Thanks again everyone:  I think this quote is one we should tell our kids from very little (and remind ourselves) "Sometimes you win, Sometimes you Learn"John C. Maxwell I agree. It's an important lesson to learn for yourself. |
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Post by dirtypillows on Jan 19, 2021 17:07:29 GMT
"The greatest burden a child must bear is the unlived life of its parents." - Carl Jung
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Post by dirtypillows on Jan 19, 2021 17:10:08 GMT
"I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity." Which is a line from a letter by Edgard Allen Poe to George W. Eveleth written in 1848. I love that. I also love (if that can be the right word) that it was uttered by Poe. |
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Post by gameboy on Jan 19, 2021 17:23:38 GMT
I was only joking. But sometimes revenge is just, vindication is sweet, and there's only one body.
I didn't see the movie. It's obviously not Clint Eastwood or Charles Bronson.
It was actually from the movie Alex Cross, it may just have been in the TV trailer, but it was cool.
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Post by dirtypillows on Jan 19, 2021 17:24:54 GMT
"I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me than a pre-frontal lobotomy..." - W.C. Fields
"My father warned me about men and booze. He never said a word about women and cocaine..." - Tallulah Bankhead
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Post by dirtypillows on Jan 19, 2021 17:29:16 GMT
Sounds interesting, but I'm not sure I know what it means. I think it has something to do with how inherently abstract music is. All other artforms/media can quite easily represent something "real" (a novel can tell a story that "sounds" like real life, a painting can easily be interpreted as an actual object or thing/things that exist). Music (outside of lyrics) even in it's most traditional form is completely abstract and unrepresentative of anything definitive. For other artforms to get even close to achieving this they have to move so far away from the traditional norms of the medium. That's just my interpretation of it. That was interesting as well as helpful. Thank you! |
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Post by dirtypillows on Jan 19, 2021 18:24:48 GMT
"A man must dream a long time in order to act with grandeur, and dreaming is nursed in darkness."
"To achieve harmony in bad taste is the height of elegance."
"My heart's in my hand, and my hand is pierced, and my hand's in the bag, and the bag is shut, and my heart is caught."
- Jean Genet
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Post by alittlebirdie on Jan 19, 2021 19:58:57 GMT
Thanks again everyone: I think this quote is one we should tell our kids from very little (and remind ourselves) "Sometimes you win, Sometimes you Learn"John C. Maxwell I agree. It's an important lesson to learn for yourself. True, we're often hard on ourselves instead of thinking what I learnt is the greater take away.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jan 19, 2021 22:28:32 GMT
I was only joking. But sometimes revenge is just, vindication is sweet, and there's only one body.
I didn't see the movie. It's obviously not Clint Eastwood or Charles Bronson.
It was actually from the movie Alex Cross, it may just have been in the TV trailer, but it was cool. I think the quote is older than that film. I think Carradine also used it in Kill Bill 2, so Tarantino would have likely been referencing some older film from his mind archive.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jan 19, 2021 22:33:19 GMT
"The greatest burden a child must bear is the unlived life of its parents." - Carl Jung Great quote!
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