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Post by Harmless elf on Jan 19, 2021 23:12:19 GMT
It was actually from the movie Alex Cross, it may just have been in the TV trailer, but it was cool. I think the quote is older than that film. I think Carradine also used it in Kill Bill 2, so Tarantino would have likely been referencing some older film from his mind archive. The saying comes from Confucius, I think. But I meant the "just as long as one of them is yours" comes from Alex Cross.
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Post by autumn on Jan 19, 2021 23:33:18 GMT
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jan 19, 2021 23:36:48 GMT
"A man must dream a long time in order to act with grandeur, and dreaming is nursed in darkness."
"To achieve harmony in bad taste is the height of elegance."
"My heart's in my hand, and my hand is pierced, and my hand's in the bag, and the bag is shut, and my heart is caught."- Jean Genet JEAN GENET, The Balcony
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Post by dirtypillows on Jan 20, 2021 0:00:04 GMT
"A man must dream a long time in order to act with grandeur, and dreaming is nursed in darkness."
"To achieve harmony in bad taste is the height of elegance."
"My heart's in my hand, and my hand is pierced, and my hand's in the bag, and the bag is shut, and my heart is caught."- Jean Genet JEAN GENET, The Balcony I don't know "The Balcony", but I love Jean Genet. I think he is a prime example of the kind of exquisiteness that is often inherent in male homosexuality. Nice quote! |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jan 20, 2021 0:19:09 GMT
If we behave like those on the other side, then we are the other side. Instead of changing the world, all we'll achieve is a reflection of the one we want to destroy.JEAN GENET, The Balcony I don't know "The Balcony", but I love Jean Genet. I think he is a prime example of the kind of exquisiteness that is often inherent in male homosexuality. Nice quote! Have you seen Todd Hayne's Poison - 91'? He has based this interesting little indie film referencing the works of Genet and uses his quotes throughout the film. 3 separate stories in which the film transitions from one to the next, Hero, Homo and Horror and made in differing styles. There could be a fine link threading them together which I don't really detect, but they are all about the suffering of the human condition and in a sense also very beautifully rendered that one doesn't leave the viewing depressed.
I saw this in the early 90's at an old flea pit suburban cinema and then went to see Meet The Feebles - 89', which was the next screening after. I loved both and it made for an interesting double bill, although it wasn't technically.
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Jan 20, 2021 8:39:15 GMT
If you want to make a feature length film all you need to do is get 70 ideas,
and you write these scenes on 3 x 5 cards and when you have 70 of them, you’ve got a feature film
- David Lynch
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Post by dirtypillows on Jan 22, 2021 13:38:22 GMT
I don't know "The Balcony", but I love Jean Genet. I think he is a prime example of the kind of exquisiteness that is often inherent in male homosexuality. Nice quote! Have you seen Todd Hayne's Poison - 91'? He has based this interesting little indie film referencing the works of Genet and uses his quotes throughout the film. 3 separate stories in which the film transitions from one to the next, Hero, Homo and Horror and made in differing styles. There could be a fine link threading them together which I don't really detect, but they are all about the suffering of the human condition and in a sense also very beautifully rendered that one doesn't leave the viewing depressed.
I saw this in the early 90's at an old flea pit suburban cinema and then went to see Meet The Feebles - 89', which was the next screening after. I loved both and it made for an interesting double bill, although it wasn't technically. I've heard of "Poison" and I knew it was directed by a gay man, but I did not know it was based on the writing of Jean Genet. How cool! I can't imagine anybody who loved men more than Jean Genet. Anyway, I wonder if viewing the movie in a fleabag theater enhanced the experience. Was it done in a way that brought out the sordidness? I would enjoy seeing MTF in a theater, with other people. Part of the fun would be to gauge audience reactions! 🙂 |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jan 22, 2021 14:09:12 GMT
Have you seen Todd Hayne's Poison - 91'? He has based this interesting little indie film referencing the works of Genet and uses his quotes throughout the film. 3 separate stories in which the film transitions from one to the next, Hero, Homo and Horror and made in differing styles. There could be a fine link threading them together which I don't really detect, but they are all about the suffering of the human condition and in a sense also very beautifully rendered that one doesn't leave the viewing depressed.
I saw this in the early 90's at an old flea pit suburban cinema and then went to see Meet The Feebles - 89', which was the next screening after. I loved both and it made for an interesting double bill, although it wasn't technically. I've heard of "Poison" and I knew it was directed by a gay man, but I did not know it was based on the writing of Jean Genet. How cool! I can't imagine anybody who loved men more than Jean Genet. Anyway, I wonder if viewing the movie in a fleabag theater enhanced the experience. Was it done in a way that brought out the sordidness? I would enjoy seeing MTF in a theater, with other people. Part of the fun would be to gauge audience reactions! 🙂 It could be considered somewhat sordid in parts, but not exploitative. It is more eloquent in its presentation of the stronger material, which isn't really anything too shocking.
Homo is a tale of lust, that chronicles the desire and love for a fellow inmate, both who have been in and out of borstals and prisons for most of their life. Hero is doco style about the mysterious disappearance of an abused young boy and Horror is a black and white tale of a scientist who manages to contain the elixir of human sexuality, ingests it and ends up being considered a monster due to the side effects. There is some very beautiful and even ugly/beautiful imagery in the film. I have never forgotten it. Its here on you tube.
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Post by dirtypillows on Jan 22, 2021 17:19:41 GMT
"It's the humiliation of a loving kiss that destroys evil"
- Eugene O'Neill
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Post by autumn on Jan 23, 2021 5:09:36 GMT
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Jan 28, 2021 3:14:02 GMT
This is musical masturbation. Who do they think they are? They’re jerking off on stage.
- review of The Velvet Underground
For the record, I quite like the VU
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Post by stefancrosscoe on Jan 28, 2021 8:51:39 GMT
"It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice"
Well, I am pretty damn sure this very catchy, memorable and fine quote is not something the german dance/techno act Scooter and frontman H.P. Baxxter came up with. Still, that quote seems to often be related to Scooter, due to their huge success with the 1995 hit single, Move Your Ass!, and I love that they would put in these funny, hiliarous and sometimes rather meaningful or "deeper" one liners or quotes into their upbeat party-music.
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Post by autumn on Jan 30, 2021 1:01:13 GMT
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Post by deembastille on Jan 30, 2021 1:50:48 GMT
Tell the truth. You don't have to remember anything.
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Post by deembastille on Jan 30, 2021 9:25:11 GMT
Be careful who you quote and idolize. You never know what kind of asshole they really are or were.
(I'll never understand why people emulate dr Seuss with his "The people who matter don't mind and the people who mind don't matter" crap! He openly cheated on his dying-of-cancer wife so obnoxiously she committed suicide because of it!!!)
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Post by alittlebirdie on Jan 30, 2021 22:28:40 GMT
Be careful who you quote and idolize. You never know what kind of asshole they really are or were. (I'll never understand why people emulate dr Seuss with his "The people who matter don't mind and the people who mind don't matter" crap! He openly cheated on his dying-of-cancer wife so obnoxiously she committed suicide because of it!!!) May I quote you? lol I agree with being careful who you quote and idolize; and yes, these people are fallible. But I feel through these imperfect peoples helpful sayings and wisdoms have been passed down that could and should benefit society. Quotes like Chief Seattle's “Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect.” ... and well you know, famous quotes from people like Gandhi, Martin Luther King Jr. and the list goes on I've often been disappointed by peoples life stories, but that doesn't mean their quotes (in this context) can't point to truths. Quotes about moving forward no matter what happens... have helped me through many difficult times in my life. I wish I heard the quote "Stop watering dead flowers" when I was doubled over and praying my boyfriend would come back. (Thank God he didn't, lol) Maybe others don't need, or find them helpful, Hey, more power to ya!
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