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Post by mstreepsucks on Dec 18, 2020 19:13:05 GMT
lady from Shanghai ?
Or did you think it sucks?
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Post by mattgarth on Dec 18, 2020 19:51:28 GMT
major sucks by Orson
in contrast -- Brad Pitt had a pretty good one in THE DEVIL'S OWN
also Mitchum in RYAN'S DAUGHTER
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Post by mstreepsucks on Dec 18, 2020 19:56:20 GMT
Seemed to work for me at least. I mean no one in the old black and white american films actually talked like a normal human being i think.
So it seemed to fit in with the material or ... ya i don't know what i'm talking about really...
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Post by london777 on Dec 18, 2020 19:59:54 GMT
major sucks by Orson in contrast -- Brad Pitt had a pretty good one in THE DEVIL'S OWN also Mitchum in RYAN'S DAUGHTER I agree with all three comments.
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Post by Archelaus on Dec 18, 2020 20:14:45 GMT
I didn't find his accent very convincing.
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Post by mikef6 on Dec 18, 2020 20:45:57 GMT
I don't even notice it. It just sounds like Orson.
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Post by timshelboy on Dec 18, 2020 20:47:11 GMT
I think the Sunday Times movies on TV guide says something like "Do not adjust your sets... Only your ears" 😁. Never bothered me at all and I rate the movie a seminal noir 9/10.
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Post by Doghouse6 on Dec 18, 2020 22:07:06 GMT
It's the sole reason I haven't yet been able to make it all the way through that film, which is a regret. I hate for something like that to be the cause for forsaking a film most agree is a very interesting one, but it strikes me as aggressive, intrusive and grating.
I can't say anything about how accurate it may be, because I'm no expert on Irish accents, but it sounds to me very much like Barry Fitzgerald.
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Post by politicidal on Dec 18, 2020 22:08:58 GMT
I thought it was laughable.
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Post by Stammerhead on Dec 19, 2020 0:18:04 GMT
Seemed to work for me at least. I mean no one in the old black and white american films actually talked like a normal human being i think. So it seemed to fit in with the material or ... ya i don't know what i'm talking about really... I was thinking that it seemed to fit the story which, although entertaining, certainly wasn’t 100% believable.
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Post by london777 on Dec 19, 2020 3:17:35 GMT
It's the sole reason I haven't yet been able to make it all the way through that film, which is a regret. I hate for something like that to be the cause for forsaking a film most agree is a very interesting one, but it strikes me as aggressive, intrusive and grating. I could say the same about Daniel Craig's accent in Knives Out (2019) dir: Rian Johnson, though I did make it to the end (and enjoyed the movie nonetheless). Quiz question: from which 1940s Brit Noir did Rian Johnson "borrow" the principal twist?
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Post by BATouttaheck on Dec 19, 2020 3:58:21 GMT
I don't even notice it. It just sounds like Orson. That was my reaction to the question too .... Whut accent ? He sounds OrsonWellesian as per usual to me.
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Post by Prime etc. on Dec 19, 2020 4:08:44 GMT
I haven't seen it yet but in Ferry To Hong Kong he chose to interpret the movie as a comedy and acted out of sync with everyone else.
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Post by kijii on Dec 19, 2020 4:50:46 GMT
Is there an Irish actor who might have done that part at that time?
Who might you have picked?
It is an interesting movie with interesting plot twists and visuals.
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Post by mattgarth on Dec 19, 2020 10:40:28 GMT
Another problem -- in spite of being a real-life married couple (OK, the relationship was disintegrating anyway) there's almost no sexual chemistry with Rita .. she shows more with film hubby Everett Sloane.
And Orson doesn't do physicality very well -- in the courtroom fistfight he throws a punch like a girl.
Maybe he should have just directed and had Glenn Ford play 'Michael the Sailor' -- now HE and Hayworth would have tons of chemistry left over from GILDA.
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Post by Doghouse6 on Dec 19, 2020 15:57:04 GMT
It's the sole reason I haven't yet been able to make it all the way through that film, which is a regret. I hate for something like that to be the cause for forsaking a film most agree is a very interesting one, but it strikes me as aggressive, intrusive and grating. I could say the same about Daniel Craig's accent in Knives Out (2019) dir: Rian Johnson, though I did make it to the end (and enjoyed the movie nonetheless). Quiz question: from which 1940s Brit Noir did Rian Johnson "borrow" the principal twist? Oh, my. I'm so out of touch with 21st century films that I not only don't know the twist, I've never heard of the picture!
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Post by TheOriginalPinky on Dec 20, 2020 0:32:04 GMT
Good Lord, no! It can only be surpassed by Humphrey Bogarts laughable Irish accent in Dark Victory!
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Post by london777 on Dec 20, 2020 1:54:13 GMT
Maybe he should have just directed and had Glenn Ford play 'Michael the Sailor' He would have been perfect for the role.
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Post by london777 on Dec 20, 2020 1:57:29 GMT
I'm so out of touch with 21st century films ... That is an alarming disability!
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Post by OldAussie on Dec 20, 2020 3:49:28 GMT
Welles' accent used to be a major distraction for me but now I find it part of the film's charm. Same could be said for a blonde Rita.
P.S. Knives Out is well worth a look, Craig's outrageous accent is fun and the "political message" in the film doesn't get in the way.
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