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Post by millar70 on Dec 22, 2020 0:15:55 GMT
Never read any of the Dark Tower books. Someday probably. The ending. Lots of people hated it but it knocked my socks off. I'm usually good at seeing how things end (I aced The Sixth Sense, Murder on the Orient Express, many other) but I never ever seen how TDT ended. My wife seen me sitting in the chair, book on the floor and my jaw wide open and repeating, over and over "Holy Fuck."
I've heard they are great, how many overall Dark Tower books are there? Do you really need to read them all, or could you get away with just one or two? |
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Post by Spitfire926f on Dec 22, 2020 0:21:18 GMT
Never read any of the Dark Tower books. Someday probably. The ending. Lots of people hated it but it knocked my socks off. I'm usually good at seeing how things end (I aced The Sixth Sense, Murder on the Orient Express, many other) but I never ever seen how TDT ended. My wife seen me sitting in the chair, book on the floor and my jaw wide open and repeating, over and over "Holy Fuck."
And maybe my favorite line in any novel
The Man in Black fled across the desert and the Gunslinger followed
I hated that ending at first, but it has grown on me over the years. It couldn't have ended any other way. |
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Dec 22, 2020 0:21:36 GMT
The ending. Lots of people hated it but it knocked my socks off. I'm usually good at seeing how things end (I aced The Sixth Sense, Murder on the Orient Express, many other) but I never ever seen how TDT ended. My wife seen me sitting in the chair, book on the floor and my jaw wide open and repeating, over and over "Holy Fuck."
I've heard they are great, how many overall Dark Tower books are there? Do you really need to read them all, or could you get away with just one or two? Seven, and you would need to read them all. The 3rd, Wizard and Glass, could be skipped I guess. But it's the best, other than the last. The first two, The Gunslinger and The Drawing of the Three, are quick reads.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Dec 22, 2020 0:27:44 GMT
The ending. Lots of people hated it but it knocked my socks off. I'm usually good at seeing how things end (I aced The Sixth Sense, Murder on the Orient Express, many other) but I never ever seen how TDT ended. My wife seen me sitting in the chair, book on the floor and my jaw wide open and repeating, over and over "Holy Fuck."
And maybe my favorite line in any novel
The Man in Black fled across the desert and the Gunslinger followed
I hated that ending at first, but it has grown on me over the years. It couldn't have ended any other way. Ka, like a wheel
Spoiler
The big complaint for most people was that Roland didn't kill Walter, but he couldn't. Twice the shot at Walter, before him and Jake went under the mountains and in Thunderclap, and missed. Roland didn't miss. The Crimson King was a tad irritating , "EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE". One of the saddest moments in any novel for me was the death of Oy. "Oland"
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Post by Spitfire926f on Dec 22, 2020 0:29:37 GMT
I hated that ending at first, but it has grown on me over the years. It couldn't have ended any other way. Ka, like a wheel
Spoiler
The big complaint for most people was that Roland didn't kill Walter, but he couldn't. Twice the shot at Walter, before him and Jake went under the mountains and in Thunderclap, and missed. Roland didn't miss. The Crimson King was a tad irritating , "EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE". One of the saddest moments in any novel for me was the death of Oy. "Oland"
I loved Oy! And the Crimson King was a let down after Insomnia. He was like a video game character. |
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Post by phantomparticle on Dec 22, 2020 0:32:09 GMT
In the novel The Stand, Larry Underwood tries to escape New York City by walking through the pitch black tunnel to New Jersey. Along the way he steps on things that gurgle, crunch and collapse under his shoes. No filmic presentation can match the sheer horror of that scene, partly because there must be some light on Underwood in order for the audience to see what he is doing. It was a failing in the original miniseries and I doubt it will be improved in the remake.
Everything falls back on that old saw: what you see in your imagination is immeasurably more powerful than anything you will see on the screen.
King's books thrive on such moments.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Dec 22, 2020 0:40:47 GMT
Ka, like a wheel
Spoiler
The big complaint for most people was that Roland didn't kill Walter, but he couldn't. Twice the shot at Walter, before him and Jake went under the mountains and in Thunderclap, and missed. Roland didn't miss. The Crimson King was a tad irritating , "EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE". One of the saddest moments in any novel for me was the death of Oy. "Oland"
I loved Oy! And the Crimson King was a let down after Insomnia. He was like a video game character. Another larger spoiler
King warns you, when Roland enters the Tower, to quit right there. You might not like where it goes. but who would? When Roland opened the last door, he gets a whiff of alkali and I remembered ha the Mohane Desert smelled of alkali. Then when he said "Oh no, not AGAIN. Have mercy" I thought 'again"? It was cold to take him back to the beginning but things had changed, he had the horn this time. And the brilliant mirror of the first line being the last line
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Post by Spitfire926f on Dec 22, 2020 0:42:01 GMT
In the novel The Stand, Larry Underwood tries to escape New York City by walking through the pitch black tunnel to New Jersey. Along the way he steps on things that gurgle, crunch and collapse under his shoes. No filmic presentation can match the sheer horror of that scene, partly because there must be some light on Underwood in order for the audience to see what he is doing. It was a failing in the original miniseries and I doubt it will be improved in the remake. Everything falls back on that old saw: what you see in your imagination is immeasurably more powerful than anything you will see on the screen. King's books thrive on such moments. ITA. There have been few writers who genuinely scared me the way he has. I was reading The Regulators and the way my mind visualized the demon possessed autistic kid floating through the room disturbed me so bad I had to put the book down. |
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Dec 22, 2020 0:47:32 GMT
In the novel The Stand, Larry Underwood tries to escape New York City by walking through the pitch black tunnel to New Jersey. Along the way he steps on things that gurgle, crunch and collapse under his shoes. No filmic presentation can match the sheer horror of that scene, partly because there must be some light on Underwood in order for the audience to see what he is doing. It was a failing in the original miniseries and I doubt it will be improved in the remake. Everything falls back on that old saw: what you see in your imagination is immeasurably more powerful than anything you will see on the screen. King's books thrive on such moments. ITA. There have been few writers who genuinely scared me the way he has. I was reading The Regulators and the way my mind visualized the demon possessed autistic kid floating through the room disturbed me so bad I had to put the book down. His non horror are really good too. Make better movies. I loved the Bill Hodges Trilogy and The Outsider. My favorite character, other than Randall Flagg/ Walter O'Dim/Flagg the Magician is Holly Gibney
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Post by Spitfire926f on Dec 22, 2020 0:53:33 GMT
ITA. There have been few writers who genuinely scared me the way he has. I was reading The Regulators and the way my mind visualized the demon possessed autistic kid floating through the room disturbed me so bad I had to put the book down. His non horror are really good too. Make better movies. I loved the Bill Hodges Trilogy and The Outsider. My favorite character, other than Randall Flagg/ Walter O'Dim/Flagg the Magician is Holly Gibney
I was just introduced to her in of his novellas. I need to read her original book. I love Andy and Charlie McGee in Firestarter. George C. Scott is gold in the film, which gets more hate than it should. I also loved John Coffey in The Green Mile, and the film is one of his best adaptions. |
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Dec 22, 2020 1:09:50 GMT
His non horror are really good too. Make better movies. I loved the Bill Hodges Trilogy and The Outsider. My favorite character, other than Randall Flagg/ Walter O'Dim/Flagg the Magician is Holly Gibney
I was just introduced to her in of his novellas. I need to read her original book. I love Andy and Charlie McGee in Firestarter. George C. Scott is gold in the film, which gets more hate than it should. I also loved John Coffey in The Green Mile, and the film is one of his best adaptions. I adore Holly. She so eccentric but cool. Love how she always says "oog" when she seen something nasty. I hated what they did to her in the miniseries for the Outsider. Turning her into a smart mouthed alcoholic. Oog indeed
Another thing I love about King is the little "King Universe", how character and other small details keep coming back in other books. In The Body (Stand by Me) they mention the junkyard dog Chopper and how it was the meanest dog in Maine, until the St. Bernard Cujo got rabies. In 11/22/63, one of the bad characters drives a red/white 1958 Plymouth Fury, like Christine. Jake Epping sees the car several times. And you don't need to ask him to know that ZKing is petrified of spiders. The final form of It/Pennywise. Mordred in TDT.
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Post by Spitfire926f on Dec 22, 2020 1:29:47 GMT
I was just introduced to her in of his novellas. I need to read her original book. I love Andy and Charlie McGee in Firestarter. George C. Scott is gold in the film, which gets more hate than it should. I also loved John Coffey in The Green Mile, and the film is one of his best adaptions. I adore Holly. She so eccentric but cool. Love how she always says "oog" when she seen something nasty. I hated what they did to her in the miniseries for the Outsider. Turning her into a smart mouthed alcoholic. Oog indeed
Another thing I love about King is the little "King Universe", how character and other small details keep coming back in other books. In The Body (Stand by Me) they mention the junkyard dog Chopper and how it was the meanest dog in Maine, until the St. Bernard Cujo got rabies. In 11/22/63, one of the bad characters drives a red/white 1958 Plymouth Fury, like Christine. Jake Epping sees the car several times. And you don't need to ask him to know that ZKing is petrified of spiders. The final form of It/Pennywise. Mordred in TDT. I haven't read 11/22/63. You recommend? I've been reading quite a bit of Joe Hill, and in N0S482 he mentions the True Knot. The main antagonist is the same kind of "vampire." I thought it was cool he incorporated some of his dad's lore into his writing. |
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Dec 22, 2020 1:34:11 GMT
I adore Holly. She so eccentric but cool. Love how she always says "oog" when she seen something nasty. I hated what they did to her in the miniseries for the Outsider. Turning her into a smart mouthed alcoholic. Oog indeed
Another thing I love about King is the little "King Universe", how character and other small details keep coming back in other books. In The Body (Stand by Me) they mention the junkyard dog Chopper and how it was the meanest dog in Maine, until the St. Bernard Cujo got rabies. In 11/22/63, one of the bad characters drives a red/white 1958 Plymouth Fury, like Christine. Jake Epping sees the car several times. And you don't need to ask him to know that ZKing is petrified of spiders. The final form of It/Pennywise. Mordred in TDT. I haven't read 11/22/63. You recommend? I've been reading quite a bit of Joe Hill, and in N0S482 he mentions the True Knot. The main antagonist is the same kind of "vampire." I thought it was cool he incorporated some of his dad's lore into his writing. I like 11/22 a lot. Being a history nut, it was right up my alley. And his history was very accurate. Cool concept, Jake goes back to change the past, but the past doesn't like to be changed. The Ending was somewhat predictable.
Don't read if you're all in on JFK conspiracy theory.
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Post by Spitfire926f on Dec 22, 2020 1:41:40 GMT
I haven't read 11/22/63. You recommend? I've been reading quite a bit of Joe Hill, and in N0S482 he mentions the True Knot. The main antagonist is the same kind of "vampire." I thought it was cool he incorporated some of his dad's lore into his writing. I like 11/22 a lot. Being a history nut, it was right up my alley. And his history was very accurate. Cool concept, Jake goes back to change the past, but the past doesn't like to be changed. The Ending was somewhat predictable.
Don't read if you're all in on JFK conspiracy theory.
Nah, no conspiracy theory stuff here. I'll check it out. I've been binging John Saul lately. I don't know why we haven't seen his books made into films. His horror/gothic drama stories would adapt well to film. |
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Post by janntosh on Dec 22, 2020 15:19:06 GMT
I haven’t read the book but I liked the 1994 miniseries. It got kind of silly towards the end but the beginning when it shows the virus spreading and society falling apart is genuinely chilling. Great cast as well
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