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Post by Skaathar on Jan 3, 2021 19:49:55 GMT
The vaccine being widely available in April doesn't mean that nearly everyone will be able to get it by June. You're talking about millions and millions of people and a limited supply of vaccines and healthcare personnel able to administer them. It's going to take at least till around fall before you get most people around the world decently vaccinated for civilization to return to normal, and I'm being optimistic. Remember that a good number of other countries out there won’t be as well provisioned as the US. Sure, things might have already improved by summer, but that doesn't mean things would be so much improved that theaters can go back to the kind of full operations they'd need for their necessary revenue. Not everything is black-and-white, you know. Cinemas could use various ways to survive until they can resume full operation. And speaking of other countries, films like Peninsula and Demon Slayer actually managed to become box office successes despite limited capacities and all those. According to boxofficemojo, Peninsula earned $40 million worldwide. Not sure I'd call that a success, especially if we're talking about blockbusters with $200 million budgets. As for cinemas surviving, what exactly do you think they can do to make ends meet when nobody is watching movies?
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Post by blockbusted on Jan 3, 2021 21:36:40 GMT
Not everything is black-and-white, you know. Cinemas could use various ways to survive until they can resume full operation. And speaking of other countries, films like Peninsula and Demon Slayer actually managed to become box office successes despite limited capacities and all those. According to boxofficemojo, Peninsula earned $40 million worldwide. Not sure I'd call that a success, especially if we're talking about blockbusters with $200 million budgets. As for cinemas surviving, what exactly do you think they can do to make ends meet when nobody is watching movies? Well, remember. At least half of cinemas in the U.S. are closed, and yet, we've seen The Croods: A New Age performing reasonably well at the U.S. box office, so that could be a silver lining for cinemas. Also, the budget of Peninsula is actually $16 million. Now, $40 million may not be a huge success, but it's still not a bad result considering everything else that was happening.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jan 3, 2021 21:41:58 GMT
Theaters are running on borrowed time. That’s the reality of the situation.
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Post by blockbusted on Jan 3, 2021 23:21:45 GMT
Theaters are running on borrowed time. That’s the reality of the situation. I'm pretty sure that's not necessarily true, as seen from Peninsula, Demon Slayer, and to some extent, The Croods: A New Age.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jan 3, 2021 23:52:37 GMT
Theaters are running on borrowed time. That’s the reality of the situation. I'm pretty sure that's not necessarily true, as seen from Peninsula, Demon Slayer, and to some extent, The Croods: A New Age. I mean in North America.
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Post by Skaathar on Jan 4, 2021 4:55:55 GMT
According to boxofficemojo, Peninsula earned $40 million worldwide. Not sure I'd call that a success, especially if we're talking about blockbusters with $200 million budgets. As for cinemas surviving, what exactly do you think they can do to make ends meet when nobody is watching movies? Well, remember. At least half of cinemas in the U.S. are closed, and yet, we've seen The Croods: A New Age performing reasonably well at the U.S. box office, so that could be a silver lining for cinemas. Also, the budget of Peninsula is actually $16 million. Now, $40 million may not be a huge success, but it's still not a bad result considering everything else that was happening. Yes, $40 million is not bad for a $16 million dollar movie, but that's not going to be enough for major blockbusters that cost $200 million to make. And theaters will need the huge blockbusters if they're to get audiences again but I doubt the blockbusters are going to be willing to risk release in theaters until they're back to full capacity. Just look at why Black Widow is taking forever to release.
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Post by blockbusted on Jan 4, 2021 5:28:00 GMT
Well, remember. At least half of cinemas in the U.S. are closed, and yet, we've seen The Croods: A New Age performing reasonably well at the U.S. box office, so that could be a silver lining for cinemas. Also, the budget of Peninsula is actually $16 million. Now, $40 million may not be a huge success, but it's still not a bad result considering everything else that was happening. Yes, $40 million is not bad for a $16 million dollar movie, but that's not going to be enough for major blockbusters that cost $200 million to make. And theaters will need the huge blockbusters if they're to get audiences again but I doubt the blockbusters are going to be willing to risk release in theaters until they're back to full capacity. Just look at why Black Widow is taking forever to release. I think they might try to attempt Universal-style short window release depending on how things go. In this case, a film would become available on VOD/streaming services about 2 or 3 weeks after its initial cinema release and extend that window as the outbreak subsides.
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Post by blockbusted on Jan 4, 2021 5:28:54 GMT
I'm pretty sure that's not necessarily true, as seen from Peninsula, Demon Slayer, and to some extent, The Croods: A New Age. I mean in North America. Hence the last film that I've mentioned. The film's box office performance is considered as reasonable given all sorts of things that went against it.
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Post by Skaathar on Jan 4, 2021 6:36:36 GMT
Yes, $40 million is not bad for a $16 million dollar movie, but that's not going to be enough for major blockbusters that cost $200 million to make. And theaters will need the huge blockbusters if they're to get audiences again but I doubt the blockbusters are going to be willing to risk release in theaters until they're back to full capacity. Just look at why Black Widow is taking forever to release. I think they might try to attempt Universal-style short window release depending on how things go. In this case, a film would become available on VOD/streaming services about 2 or 3 weeks after its initial cinema release and extend that window as the outbreak subsides. To be honest, I don't understand why the MCU just doesn't release Black Widow in Disney+ for an additional charge like they did Mulan then at the same time release them in theaters. That way people have multiple options on how to watch it and all of those options generate money.
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Post by blockbusted on Jan 4, 2021 10:29:53 GMT
I think they might try to attempt Universal-style short window release depending on how things go. In this case, a film would become available on VOD/streaming services about 2 or 3 weeks after its initial cinema release and extend that window as the outbreak subsides. To be honest, I don't understand why the MCU just doesn't release Black Widow in Disney+ for an additional charge like they did Mulan then at the same time release them in theaters. That way people have multiple options on how to watch it and all of those options generate money. 1. Mulan was a Premiere Access-exclusive release, and given that they aren't attempting it again for a tentpole film, it seems like it wasn't exactly successful enough to justify another one of those. 2. I think they're waiting to see how things go by the time of the release date of Black Widow.
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Post by Skaathar on Jan 4, 2021 12:51:05 GMT
To be honest, I don't understand why the MCU just doesn't release Black Widow in Disney+ for an additional charge like they did Mulan then at the same time release them in theaters. That way people have multiple options on how to watch it and all of those options generate money. 1. Mulan was a Premiere Access-exclusive release, and given that they aren't attempting it again for a tentpole film, it seems like it wasn't exactly successful enough to justify another one of those. 2. I think they're waiting to see how things go by the time of the release date of Black Widow. Well Mulan was a crappy film. The low returns of Mulan probably had much more to do with the quality of the film than the financial model they used. I'd like to see it tried out on a better film.
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Post by blockbusted on Jan 5, 2021 8:50:24 GMT
1. Mulan was a Premiere Access-exclusive release, and given that they aren't attempting it again for a tentpole film, it seems like it wasn't exactly successful enough to justify another one of those. 2. I think they're waiting to see how things go by the time of the release date of Black Widow. Well Mulan was a crappy film. The low returns of Mulan probably had much more to do with the quality of the film than the financial model they used. I'd like to see it tried out on a better film. I think Disney doesn't want to take another risk like that after Mulan being a financial disappointment. The fact that Raya and the Last Dragon is getting a simultaneous release is quite telling.
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Post by Skaathar on Jan 5, 2021 14:26:42 GMT
Well Mulan was a crappy film. The low returns of Mulan probably had much more to do with the quality of the film than the financial model they used. I'd like to see it tried out on a better film. I think Disney doesn't want to take another risk like that after Mulan being a financial disappointment. The fact that Raya and the Last Dragon is getting a simultaneous release is quite telling. A simultaneous release is really the best option. Not sure why they didn't do it with Mulan. I have a feeling that's what's going to happen to Black Widow.
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Post by blockbusted on Jan 5, 2021 18:43:49 GMT
I think Disney doesn't want to take another risk like that after Mulan being a financial disappointment. The fact that Raya and the Last Dragon is getting a simultaneous release is quite telling. A simultaneous release is really the best option. Not sure why they didn't do it with Mulan. I have a feeling that's what's going to happen to Black Widow. They might be waiting to see if that will become necessary or if short window release will be good enough by the time of the film's release.
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Post by Riddick on Jan 11, 2021 11:31:07 GMT
"really don’t think that it is. COVID will go away one day."
It won't go. Same for Lockdowns. Both will be excist forever.
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Post by Skaathar on Jan 11, 2021 18:30:31 GMT
"really don’t think that it is. COVID will go away one day." It won't go. Same for Lockdowns. Both will be excist forever. Majortity of people should be vaccinated by end of the year. Question is, what percentage of people need to be vaccinated before lockdown is released.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jan 11, 2021 18:36:14 GMT
"really don’t think that it is. COVID will go away one day." It won't go. Same for Lockdowns. Both will be excist forever. Majortity of people should be vaccinated by end of the year. Question is, what percentage of people need to be vaccinated before lockdown is released. It’s possible that people will need to take the COVID vaccine every year, much like they take the flu shot every year. It would be annoying, but it’s possible.
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