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Post by novastar6 on Jan 14, 2021 0:28:47 GMT
Is there a reason we can't just call it alphabet soup?
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Post by autumn on Jan 14, 2021 0:58:54 GMT
Why does it have to have all those letters to be "all inclusive?" I mean, at some point it becomes so excessive that you're going to lose a crowd, and turn people off from being receptive. Keep it simple. LGBT keeps things short and sweet and let's be honest, everyone knows what it means and to what it refers.
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Post by Stammerhead on Jan 14, 2021 1:02:23 GMT
Of fuck off. As usual you interpret things in a negative fashion if they go against your views. You do this all the fucking time and you are as self righteous and stuck up as they come. Sex is so fucking important to you you treat anything that doesn’t fit in with your views as a sickness. So fucking what if people don’t have sex or don’t want to have sex? People can do whatever they fucking want even if it means not fucking so stop with the bigotry. Sex is only a part of human relationships and you spouting that shit means you are as bigoted as those you continue to whine against. How does 'I' fit in with LGBTQIACDEFHJKMNOPRSUVWXYZ...ad infinitum as a sexuality Stamm and for what purpose? I’ll let you lot sort that one out but, as I have already said, I don’t see anything wrong with asexuality not being accepted as a sexual orientation. But sociopathy is clinically known as Antisocial Personality Disorder.
Antisocial personality disorder is a particularly challenging type of personality disorder characterised by impulsive, irresponsible and often criminal behaviour. Someone with antisocial personality disorder will typically be manipulative, deceitful and reckless, and won't care for other people's feelings. Like other types of personality disorder, antisocial personality disorder is on a spectrum, which means it can range in severity from occasional bad behaviour to repeatedly breaking the law and committing serious crimes. Psychopaths are considered to have a severe form of antisocial personality disorder. www.nhs.uk/conditions/antisocial-personality-disorder/
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jan 14, 2021 1:15:02 GMT
How does 'I' fit in with LGBTQIACDEFHJKMNOPRSUVWXYZ...ad infinitum as a sexuality Stamm and for what purpose? I’ll let you lot sort that one out but, as I have already said, I don’t see anything wrong with asexuality not being accepted as a sexual orientation. But sociopathy is clinically known as Antisocial Personality Disorder.
Antisocial personality disorder is a particularly challenging type of personality disorder characterised by impulsive, irresponsible and often criminal behaviour. Someone with antisocial personality disorder will typically be manipulative, deceitful and reckless, and won't care for other people's feelings. Like other types of personality disorder, antisocial personality disorder is on a spectrum, which means it can range in severity from occasional bad behaviour to repeatedly breaking the law and committing serious crimes. Psychopaths are considered to have a severe form of antisocial personality disorder. www.nhs.uk/conditions/antisocial-personality-disorder/ I meant to ask how does 'A' fit in with the alphabet conglomeration of sexuality and disorders not 'I'. If A is not actually a sexuality, then how does it belong?
APD is not what Gamey suffers from, but A possibly might.
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Post by Stammerhead on Jan 14, 2021 1:36:20 GMT
I’ll let you lot sort that one out but, as I have already said, I don’t see anything wrong with asexuality not being accepted as a sexual orientation. But sociopathy is clinically known as Antisocial Personality Disorder.
Antisocial personality disorder is a particularly challenging type of personality disorder characterised by impulsive, irresponsible and often criminal behaviour. Someone with antisocial personality disorder will typically be manipulative, deceitful and reckless, and won't care for other people's feelings. Like other types of personality disorder, antisocial personality disorder is on a spectrum, which means it can range in severity from occasional bad behaviour to repeatedly breaking the law and committing serious crimes. Psychopaths are considered to have a severe form of antisocial personality disorder. www.nhs.uk/conditions/antisocial-personality-disorder/I meant to ask how does 'A' fit in with the alphabet conglomeration of sexuality and disorders not 'I'. If A is not actually a sexuality, then how does it belong?
APD is not what Gamey suffers from, but A possibly might.
GameBoy said that asexuals are sociopaths and that’s how this part of the thread started. Asexuality could be classed as a personality disorder but I don’t think it’s a particularly harmful condition. From the same link... Personality disorders are mental health conditions that affect how someone thinks, perceives, feels or relates to others.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jan 14, 2021 1:43:09 GMT
I meant to ask how does 'A' fit in with the alphabet conglomeration of sexuality and disorders not 'I'. If A is not actually a sexuality, then how does it belong?
APD is not what Gamey suffers from, but A possibly might.
GameBoy said that asexuals are sociopaths and that’s how this part of the thread started. Asexuality could be classed as a personality disorder but I don’t think it’s a particularly harmful condition. From the same link... Personality disorders are mental health conditions that affect how someone thinks, perceives, feels or relates to others. Yes, it could be a bit of an exaggeration, however, I myself feel that those that label themselves asexual, perhaps lack a bit of confidence in themselves, or might not feel sexy enough if they think they are ugly to not have others interested in them. I still don't feel that they lack a sexual drive, unless their bits are surgically tampered with. Visual aesthetic is also a decider for attraction and is born of mind mostly and even castrati attempted to be sexual.
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Post by kls on Jan 14, 2021 1:53:09 GMT
GameBoy said that asexuals are sociopaths and that’s how this part of the thread started. Asexuality could be classed as a personality disorder but I don’t think it’s a particularly harmful condition. From the same link... Personality disorders are mental health conditions that affect how someone thinks, perceives, feels or relates to others. Yes, it could be a bit of an exaggeration, however, I myself feel that those that label themselves asexual, perhaps lack a bit of confidence in themselves, or might not feel sexy enough if they think they are ugly to not have others interested in them. I still don't feel that they lack a sexual drive, unless their bits are surgically tampered with. Visual aesthetic is also a decider for attraction and is born of mind mostly and even castrati attempted to be sexual. I think maybe some who aren't all that into it simply have other drives or passions. Not necessarily a big deal if other types of connections with people are more of a priority.
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Post by Stammerhead on Jan 14, 2021 1:56:15 GMT
GameBoy said that asexuals are sociopaths and that’s how this part of the thread started. Asexuality could be classed as a personality disorder but I don’t think it’s a particularly harmful condition. From the same link... Personality disorders are mental health conditions that affect how someone thinks, perceives, feels or relates to others. Yes, it could be a bit of an exaggeration, however, I myself feel that those that label themselves asexual, perhaps lack a bit of confidence in themselves, or might not feel sexy enough if they think they are ugly to not have others interested in them. I still don't feel that they lack a sexual drive, unless their bits are surgically tampered with. Visual aesthetic is also a decider for attraction and is born of mind mostly and even castrati attempted to be sexual. It could very a very, very small sex drive. As for the alphabet soup question I put that down to people wanting to be inclusive which can be both a good thing and a bad thing. With luck the incels (see your description above) won’t be invited but who knows what will happen.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jan 14, 2021 1:57:24 GMT
Yes, it could be a bit of an exaggeration, however, I myself feel that those that label themselves asexual, perhaps lack a bit of confidence in themselves, or might not feel sexy enough if they think they are ugly to not have others interested in them. I still don't feel that they lack a sexual drive, unless their bits are surgically tampered with. Visual aesthetic is also a decider for attraction and is born of mind mostly and even castrati attempted to be sexual. I think maybe some who aren't all that into it simply have other drives or passions. Not necessarily a big deal if other types of connections with people are more of a priority. Well, sex isn't everything, but like the point of my op, I don't feel most of these additions belong with the fragmentation away from 'normal' straight. Sexuality is just that, sexual attraction and normal healthy sexuality is for either male or female gender regardless. The rest is just a murky swamp soup that doesn't really fit the bill.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jan 14, 2021 2:00:28 GMT
Yes, it could be a bit of an exaggeration, however, I myself feel that those that label themselves asexual, perhaps lack a bit of confidence in themselves, or might not feel sexy enough if they think they are ugly to not have others interested in them. I still don't feel that they lack a sexual drive, unless their bits are surgically tampered with. Visual aesthetic is also a decider for attraction and is born of mind mostly and even castrati attempted to be sexual. It could very a very, very small sex drive. As for the alphabet soup question I put that down to people wanting to be inclusive which can be both a good thing and a bad thing. With luck the incels (see your description above) won’t be invited but who knows what will happen. The thing though with being inclusive, should not involve separation/fragmentation away from the rest. S should then be a part of it, if it was an all inclusive club.
Incels aren't really asexual though, they just have entitlements for thinking women should be attracted to their ugly hairy fat asses and zit infested faces.
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Post by kls on Jan 14, 2021 2:22:58 GMT
It could very a very, very small sex drive. As for the alphabet soup question I put that down to people wanting to be inclusive which can be both a good thing and a bad thing. With luck the incels (see your description above) won’t be invited but who knows what will happen. The thing though with being inclusive, should not involve separation/fragmentation away from the rest. S should then be a part of it, if it was an all inclusive club.
Incels aren't really asexual though, they just have entitlements for thinking women should be attracted to their ugly hairy fat asses and zit infested faces.
It annoys me when some two or three acts like some 9 is the biggest bitch in the world for rejecting him when he wouldn't give the time of day to a girl who's a two or three.
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Post by gameboy on Jan 14, 2021 4:25:50 GMT
I'm glad you cooled off. Self righteous indignation is always a bit pretentious.
Comparing homosexuality to asexuality is exactly what homophobes do when they compare equal rights for homosexuals to toleration of pedophiles. Apples and oranges.
And it's important to note here that Ebony used to claim to be asexual. But now she is a joyous heterosexual woman. Again, asexuality is not a hard wired orientation like homosexuality or heterosexuality. When pressed every asexual I've spoken to has always admitted they are attracted to the opposite sex. They're heterosexuals. As I said, true asexuality is an illness, a form of sociopathy, not a legitimate sexual orientation.
Of fuck off. As usual you interpret things in a negative fashion if they go against your views. You do this all the fucking time and you are as self righteous and stuck up as they come. Sex is so fucking important to you you treat anything that doesn’t fit in with your views as a sickness. So fucking what if people don’t have sex or don’t want to have sex? People can do whatever they fucking want even if it means not fucking so stop with the bigotry. Sex is only a part of human relationships and you spouting that shit means you are as bigoted as those you continue to whine against. Fuck off? See, here you go again acting like an asshole when I wanna have a good natured, albeit energetic, debate.
I'm not talking just about sex. I'm talking about orientation and human relationships, not just sex but love as well. You admit asexuality is a disorder. I do not want to see a sexual disorder given equivalency to homosexuality or bisexuality as if it is just another viable option.
As I've said, when you press an "asexual" about their attraction, in my experience, they always end up saying they're heterosexual with a low sex drive.
So sure, most these people who say they are asexual are not sociopaths. They just have what is hopefully a temporary disorder. However, if there is a human being who throughout their entire life has never had any remote attraction to another another human being, male or female, whether sexual or just about human affectation, yes, they are sociopaths.
Get the fucking 'A' off the LGBTQI!
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Post by Stammerhead on Jan 14, 2021 11:10:42 GMT
Of fuck off. As usual you interpret things in a negative fashion if they go against your views. You do this all the fucking time and you are as self righteous and stuck up as they come. Sex is so fucking important to you you treat anything that doesn’t fit in with your views as a sickness. So fucking what if people don’t have sex or don’t want to have sex? People can do whatever they fucking want even if it means not fucking so stop with the bigotry. Sex is only a part of human relationships and you spouting that shit means you are as bigoted as those you continue to whine against. Fuck off? See, here you go again acting like an asshole when I wanna have a good natured, albeit energetic, debate.
I'm not talking just about sex. I'm talking about orientation and human relationships, not just sex but love as well. You admit asexuality is a disorder. I do not want to see a sexual disorder given equivalency to homosexuality or bisexuality as if it is just another viable option.
As I've said, when you press an "asexual" about their attraction, in my experience, they always end up saying they're heterosexual with a low sex drive.
So sure, most these people who say they are asexual are not sociopaths. They just have what is hopefully a temporary disorder. However, if there is a human being who throughout their entire life has never had any remote attraction to another another human being, male or female, whether sexual or just about human affectation, yes, they are sociopaths.
Get the fucking 'A' off the LGBTQI!
I told you to fuck off after you acted like an ass. As I have said twice already I am not taking issue with you not wanting them to be included under the LGBT umbrella (LGBT works better as a title anyway but when I look at the clinical description of sociopathy from the NHS I can’t see anything that applies to asexuals (unless not having sex makes it difficult for them to have long term relationships). exploit, manipulate or violate the rights of others lack concern, regret or remorse about other people's distress behave irresponsibly and show disregard for normal social behaviour have difficulty sustaining long-term relationships be unable to control their anger lack guilt, or not learn from their mistakes blame others for problems in their lives repeatedly break the law You just dislike the thought of people not having sex and can only come up with negative/insulting reasons for them not doing so.
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Post by Stammerhead on Jan 14, 2021 11:18:04 GMT
It could very a very, very small sex drive. As for the alphabet soup question I put that down to people wanting to be inclusive which can be both a good thing and a bad thing. With luck the incels (see your description above) won’t be invited but who knows what will happen. The thing though with being inclusive, should not involve separation/fragmentation away from the rest. S should then be a part of it, if it was an all inclusive club.
Incels aren't really asexual though, they just have entitlements for thinking women should be attracted to their ugly hairy fat asses and zit infested faces.
I didn’t say Incels are asexuals it just that your description of asexuals applies more to Incels and looks are not always part of their problem as it’s also to do with them possessing a screwed up personality.
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Post by deembastille on Jan 14, 2021 18:00:19 GMT
Fuck off? See, here you go again acting like an asshole when I wanna have a good natured, albeit energetic, debate. I'm not talking just about sex. I'm talking about orientation and human relationships, not just sex but love as well. You admit asexuality is a disorder. I do not want to see a sexual disorder given equivalency to homosexuality or bisexuality as if it is just another viable option. As I've said, when you press an "asexual" about their attraction, in my experience, they always end up saying they're heterosexual with a low sex drive. So sure, most these people who say they are asexual are not sociopaths. They just have what is hopefully a temporary disorder. However, if there is a human being who throughout their entire life has never had any remote attraction to another another human being, male or female, whether sexual or just about human affectation, yes, they are sociopaths.
Get the fucking 'A' off the LGBTQI!
I told you to fuck off after you acted like an ass. As I have said twice already I am not taking issue with you not wanting them to be included under the LGBT umbrella (LGBT works better as a title anyway but when I look at the clinical description of sociopathy from the NHS I can’t see anything that applies to asexuals (unless not having sex makes it difficult for them to have long term relationships). exploit, manipulate or violate the rights of others lack concern, regret or remorse about other people's distress behave irresponsibly and show disregard for normal social behaviour have difficulty sustaining long-term relationships be unable to control their anger lack guilt, or not learn from their mistakes blame others for problems in their lives repeatedly break the law You just dislike the thought of people not having sex and can only come up with negative/insulting reasons for them not doing so. Jeezuz! Why can't you two put each other on ignore and get on with your lives????
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Post by novastar6 on Jan 14, 2021 18:08:38 GMT
I told you to fuck off after you acted like an ass. As I have said twice already I am not taking issue with you not wanting them to be included under the LGBT umbrella (LGBT works better as a title anyway but when I look at the clinical description of sociopathy from the NHS I can’t see anything that applies to asexuals (unless not having sex makes it difficult for them to have long term relationships). exploit, manipulate or violate the rights of others lack concern, regret or remorse about other people's distress behave irresponsibly and show disregard for normal social behaviour have difficulty sustaining long-term relationships be unable to control their anger lack guilt, or not learn from their mistakes blame others for problems in their lives repeatedly break the law You just dislike the thought of people not having sex and can only come up with negative/insulting reasons for them not doing so. Jeezuz! Why can't you two put each other on ignore and get on with your lives? 
We have 'ignore' on here? I wish somebody'd told me.
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Post by gameboy on Jan 14, 2021 18:08:48 GMT
I told you to fuck off after you acted like an ass. As I have said twice already I am not taking issue with you not wanting them to be included under the LGBT umbrella (LGBT works better as a title anyway but when I look at the clinical description of sociopathy from the NHS I can’t see anything that applies to asexuals (unless not having sex makes it difficult for them to have long term relationships). exploit, manipulate or violate the rights of others lack concern, regret or remorse about other people's distress behave irresponsibly and show disregard for normal social behaviour have difficulty sustaining long-term relationships be unable to control their anger lack guilt, or not learn from their mistakes blame others for problems in their lives repeatedly break the law You just dislike the thought of people not having sex and can only come up with negative/insulting reasons for them not doing so. Jeezuz! Why can't you two put each other on ignore and get on with your lives? lol We've been doing this for years and if you want to make a qualitative judgment, we're more friends than enemies.
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Post by deembastille on Jan 14, 2021 18:22:20 GMT
Jeezuz! Why can't you two put each other on ignore and get on with your lives? We have 'ignore' on here? I wish somebody'd told me.
AKA block.
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Post by novastar6 on Jan 14, 2021 18:23:05 GMT
We have 'ignore' on here? I wish somebody'd told me.
AKA block.
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Post by gameboy on Jan 14, 2021 23:28:49 GMT
Fuck off? See, here you go again acting like an asshole when I wanna have a good natured, albeit energetic, debate.
I'm not talking just about sex. I'm talking about orientation and human relationships, not just sex but love as well. You admit asexuality is a disorder. I do not want to see a sexual disorder given equivalency to homosexuality or bisexuality as if it is just another viable option.
As I've said, when you press an "asexual" about their attraction, in my experience, they always end up saying they're heterosexual with a low sex drive.
So sure, most these people who say they are asexual are not sociopaths. They just have what is hopefully a temporary disorder. However, if there is a human being who throughout their entire life has never had any remote attraction to another another human being, male or female, whether sexual or just about human affectation, yes, they are sociopaths.
Get the fucking 'A' off the LGBTQI!
I told you to fuck off after you acted like an ass. As I have said twice already I am not taking issue with you not wanting them to be included under the LGBT umbrella (LGBT works better as a title anyway but when I look at the clinical description of sociopathy from the NHS I can’t see anything that applies to asexuals (unless not having sex makes it difficult for them to have long term relationships). exploit, manipulate or violate the rights of others lack concern, regret or remorse about other people's distress behave irresponsibly and show disregard for normal social behaviour have difficulty sustaining long-term relationships be unable to control their anger lack guilt, or not learn from their mistakes blame others for problems in their lives repeatedly break the law You just dislike the thought of people not having sex and can only come up with negative/insulting reasons for them not doing so. No, I just think there is something repulsive about a person who is so narcissistic and self-centered that they find no other human being attractive. I'm not even talking about sex at this point. www.dictionary.com/browse/affectional-orientation
Seriously, think about what the term means, especially when it's called a separate orientation like homosexuality or heterosexuality. An asexual looks at a male and says "meh, that does nothing for me". An asexual looks at a female and says "meh, that does nothing for me".
So if that doesn't match clinical descriptions of sociopathy, fine. It still describes some very asocial and unhealthy behavior.
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