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Post by SciFive on Jan 6, 2021 12:58:14 GMT
Aiming a political agenda at young children is not a good education.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jan 6, 2021 12:58:53 GMT
No one talks of faith where there is evidence. There are many possibilities of what may happen in the future, or at least we don't know what will happen. There are many things for which we have no evidence. People don't know how and when they're going to die, so that's a matter of faith. I can't speak for others but I have no faith at all in how and when I will die, although there are scenarios I would certainly prefer. Dying itself is not a matter of faith. I am not sure since it sounds confused. For one thing, you seem to be confusing 'faith' with 'belief'. This ignores the fact that faith in the workings of the natural world is not the same as faith in the supernatural when one considers evidence and the most reasonable understanding of the way things will be. Which is why I distinguish between faith and belief.[/quote]
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jan 6, 2021 12:59:43 GMT
This is also untrue. He or she is merely pointing out your usual antics. Just like I’ve been pointing out the usual antics of religion-haters who attack billions of people they don’t know. It’s a two-way street. Which is something we all accept, it is just that you seem to be complaining the most.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jan 6, 2021 13:02:34 GMT
Brainwashing students has become a strategy employed after violent lefties in the ‘60s grew up and became professors. A lot of people don’t want this garbage being shoved at their children. In a two way street, traffic flows both ways. One is also not sure of what 'garbage' you mean. Post-modernism? De constructionism? Creationism? These are only concepts, right?
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Post by SciFive on Jan 6, 2021 13:03:05 GMT
Just like I’ve been pointing out the usual antics of religion-haters who attack billions of people they don’t know. It’s a two-way street. Which is something we all accept, it is just that you seem to be complaining the most. You guys are doing the complaining right now. It’s a two-way street.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jan 6, 2021 13:03:53 GMT
Aiming a political agenda at young children is not a good education. Giving them a balanced view of science, politics and sociology, though is.
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Post by SciFive on Jan 6, 2021 13:07:09 GMT
Aiming a political agenda at young children is not a good education. Giving them a balanced view of science, politics and sociology, though is. What balance!?!?!?!?! “Your parents are irrational. Be a liberal or we will call you irrational, too.”
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jan 6, 2021 13:07:48 GMT
Which is something we all accept, it is just that you seem to be complaining the most. You guys are doing the complaining right now. It’s a two-way street. No, I am just pointing out your somewhat repetitive and (given your 'live and let live' philosophy) contradictory posting history. I would only complain if you blatantly break the rules of this forum, and only then if it was sufficient egregious.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jan 6, 2021 13:08:18 GMT
Giving them a balanced view of science, politics and sociology, though is. What balance!?!?!?!?! “Your parents are irrational. Be a liberal or we will call you irrational, too.” Straw man.
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Post by SciFive on Jan 6, 2021 13:09:18 GMT
You guys are doing the complaining right now. It’s a two-way street. No, I am just pointing out your somewhat repetitive and (given your 'live and let live' philosophy) contradictory posting history. I would only complain if you blatantly break the rules of this forum, and only then if it was sufficient egregious. I’m asking people to leave billions of innocents alone. It’s something you guys can never do.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jan 6, 2021 13:10:15 GMT
No, I am just pointing out your somewhat repetitive and (given your 'live and let live' philosophy) contradictory posting history. I would only complain if you blatantly break the rules of this forum, and only then if it was sufficient egregious. I’m asking people to leave billions of innocents alone. It’s something you guys can never do. Anything new from you today?
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Post by SciFive on Jan 6, 2021 13:11:00 GMT
I’m asking people to leave billions of innocents alone. It’s something you guys can never do. Anything new from you today? Yeah. Stop brainwashing children.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Jan 6, 2021 13:14:03 GMT
Yes, you are perfectly free to believe irrational things, and I'm perfectly free to say you're being irrational when you do. You are perfectly free to be an intolerant arsehole. Good, then we agree about our freedoms. Any other obvious statements you'd like to make? Maybe you'd like to inform us that the sky is blue.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jan 6, 2021 13:18:04 GMT
Anything new from you today? Yeah. Stop brainwashing children. Sorry, my child-brainwashing day is on a Friday.
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Post by SciFive on Jan 6, 2021 13:19:41 GMT
You are perfectly free to be an intolerant arsehole. Good, then we agree about our freedoms. Any other obvious statements you'd like to make? Maybe you'd like to inform us that the sky is blue. Your thinking is irrational.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Jan 6, 2021 13:22:18 GMT
And faith is irrational. Believing things without good reason to believe them--ie, for reasons that have no bearing on the truth of the thing you believe--is the very definition of irrationality. It's what the entire field of logical fallacies is based around. It's almost shocking to me that someone can not know this. Again, I completely understand faith. I'm also claiming that faith is irrational because it's based on desires that have nothing to do with the truth of the thing they have faith about. Just to be clear, are you disagreeing with all of those links calling "Wishful Thinking" a fallacy? It's not "irrational". It's "incomprehensible" to you, and people like you. There's a difference. I didn't click those links.  See, here's the problem we're having: you don't have the first clue about (ir)rationality and logic. All you know is that they're bad things, and since you don't want to think anything bad about your beliefs, you're denying that they're irrational/illogical. What's funny is that you literally defined what you're doing as illogical when you said "Your desire to believe God exists as a reason for being happy, has nothing to do with whether or not God exists" ( IMDB2.freeforums.net/post/4521946/thread). Irrationality and logical fallacies are literally defined as methods of thought that lead to beliefs that have nothing to do with the truth of that belief. So you already admitted to being irrational, to believing in God based on a logical fallacy, but because you don't know what either of those things mean, you're still denying it. It's like someone saying "oh sure, I stabbed the guy until he died just because he laughed at me, but I didn't MURDER him!" The fact that you refuse to read those links (even one) says all anyone needs to know about your lack of intellectual integrity/honesty, and at this point you're just trying to project your own ignorance on to me, pretending that I'm the one that doesn't understand something, despite not having said a single thing that you can show I didn't understand. Pretty much your (and SciFive's) entire schtick is a display of various psychological defense mechanisms to protect your ignorance. How about this, I'll give you one more chance to recognize what you refuse to recognize. What if I start a poll on the Politics forum and phrase the question like this: "Is it irrational to believe things only because you want them to be true?" with the options "no, that's a logical fallacy" or "yes, that's perfectly rational" and see what they respond. Not that I have tremendous confidence in what people over there know about logic/rationality either, but this is so basic I have to be optimistic enough to think most recognize that such a thing is blatantly irrational.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Jan 6, 2021 13:22:32 GMT
Good, then we agree about our freedoms. Any other obvious statements you'd like to make? Maybe you'd like to inform us that the sky is blue. Your thinking is irrational. Prove it.
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Post by SciFive on Jan 6, 2021 13:27:18 GMT
See, here's the problem we're having: you don't have the first clue about (ir)rationality and logic.
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I have a Bachelors degree in Mathematical Logic, arsehole.
You try to fck with people’s heads. Going after billions and billions of people who dare to disagree with you is like a dog chasing a Lamborghini.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Jan 6, 2021 13:27:25 GMT
Oh fds you sound like some blue hair wokish sjw that equates words in a message word with real world violence. No one here is being hurt for this discussion in this thread that most people in the world don't even know it exists. If they are being hurt they should leave the board for being over sensitive snowflakes and go to their safe spaces. If this were true, no one on your side would mind being accused of arseholery for whining about the private thoughts of billions of strangers.I don't mind it. I think you're funny for being so triggered and having absolutely nothing to add to a discussion except insults.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jan 6, 2021 13:29:32 GMT
Your thinking is irrational. Prove it. Does the doing of the same thing (engaging with SciFive) over and over, while expecting a different result count?
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