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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Jan 5, 2021 15:40:17 GMT
So he didn't say anything that was false. Gotcha. So you can't stop yourself from lying in any situation. I know.
I asked you if he said anything that was factually wrong. All you talked about was his nastiness in response to that question. So either you didn't understand such a basic, straight-forward question; or you couldn't name anything he said that was false. I was being nice by not assuming you were a complete idiot.
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Post by SciFive on Jan 5, 2021 16:00:22 GMT
So you can't stop yourself from lying in any situation. I know.
I asked you if he said anything that was factually wrong. Just nastiness - expressing his opinion that what people say about religion is a big lie. He’s an arsehole.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Jan 5, 2021 16:18:34 GMT
I asked you if he said anything that was factually wrong. Just nastiness - expressing his opinion that what people say about religion is a big lie. He’s an arsehole. So then how was I lying when I said he didn't say anything that was false? And he supports his "opinion" with a little thing called "evidence." You should try it some time.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Jan 5, 2021 16:20:39 GMT
I asked you if he said anything that was factually wrong. Just nastiness - expressing his opinion that what people say about religion is a big lie. He’s an arsehole. I think you might actually be worse than Arlon (didn't think that was possible). At least he didn't resort to religious victimhood quite as much as you.
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Post by The Lost One on Jan 5, 2021 16:56:36 GMT
"Believing I have a billion dollars in my bank account makes me happy. You can't prove I don't, so I'll choose to believe it." "Believing I'm the reincarnated spirit of Jimi Hendrix makes me happy. You can't prove I'm not, so I'll choose to believe it." "Believing in The Flying Spaghetti Monster makes me happy. You can't prove it doesn't exist, so I'll choose to believe it." "Believing in Santa Clause makes me happy. You can't prove he doesn't exist, so I'll choose to believe it." "Believing we're all living in the matrix makes me happy. You can't prove we aren't, so I'll choose to believe it." "Believing Donald Trump actually won the 2020 election makes me happy. You can't prove he didn't, so I'll choose to believe it." God is no different than any of these things. It is interesting though that people who believe in God generally do not believe in the above (with, in some circles, the exception of the last you listed). God belief seems to have a different characteristic to those other beliefs. That's not to say it's more likely to be true than those beliefs. Indeed, I have seen some reasonably compelling arguments that we're more likely to be living in the matrix than not. But there is something about it that makes people cling to it much more strongly than other examples of supposed wishful thinking.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Jan 5, 2021 17:02:12 GMT
Just nastiness - expressing his opinion that what people say about religion is a big lie. He’s an arsehole. I think you might actually be worse than Arlon (didn't think that was possible). At least he didn't resort to religious victimhood quite as much as you. Oh, she's 1000x worse than Arlon. Don't know how much attention you pay to the politics board, but she would pretty regularly have psychotic breakdowns over there. I guess she did enough that she got banned from posting there and has decided to bring the crazy here. I never found Arlon that bad, tbh. He had his share of "I'm going to ignore what you say and just post non sequiturs without answering challenges/questions" bouts; not to mention his, shall we say, idiosyncratic views of science and language; but at least he'd make a show of putting forth semi-coherent/reasonable arguments and trying to have an actual discussion. Though he wasn't shy about insults, at least he didn't spam the board with them ad nauseam. Meanwhile, you can see how SciFive has gotten locked into the "you're a liar/asshole" loop and isn't even bothering to actually respond to what anyone's actually saying.
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Post by SciFive on Jan 5, 2021 17:12:18 GMT
Just nastiness - expressing his opinion that what people say about religion is a big lie. He’s an arsehole. So then how was I lying when I said he didn't say anything that was false? And he supports his "opinion" with a little thing called "evidence." You should try it some time. Opinions aren’t objective truth. The guy is an arsehole who smears billions of innocent people.
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Post by SciFive on Jan 5, 2021 17:13:41 GMT
"Believing I have a billion dollars in my bank account makes me happy. You can't prove I don't, so I'll choose to believe it." "Believing I'm the reincarnated spirit of Jimi Hendrix makes me happy. You can't prove I'm not, so I'll choose to believe it." "Believing in The Flying Spaghetti Monster makes me happy. You can't prove it doesn't exist, so I'll choose to believe it." "Believing in Santa Clause makes me happy. You can't prove he doesn't exist, so I'll choose to believe it." "Believing we're all living in the matrix makes me happy. You can't prove we aren't, so I'll choose to believe it." "Believing Donald Trump actually won the 2020 election makes me happy. You can't prove he didn't, so I'll choose to believe it." God is no different than any of these things. It is interesting though that people who believe in God generally do not believe in the above (with, in some circles, the exception of the last you listed). God belief seems to have a different characteristic to those other beliefs. That's not to say it's more likely to be true than those beliefs. Indeed, I have seen some reasonably compelling arguments that we're more likely to be living in the matrix than not. But there is something about it that makes people cling to it much more strongly than other examples of supposed wishful thinking. Enemies equate belief in a higher power to unicorns, etc. It’s their smear strategy.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Jan 5, 2021 17:14:29 GMT
"Believing I have a billion dollars in my bank account makes me happy. You can't prove I don't, so I'll choose to believe it." "Believing I'm the reincarnated spirit of Jimi Hendrix makes me happy. You can't prove I'm not, so I'll choose to believe it." "Believing in The Flying Spaghetti Monster makes me happy. You can't prove it doesn't exist, so I'll choose to believe it." "Believing in Santa Clause makes me happy. You can't prove he doesn't exist, so I'll choose to believe it." "Believing we're all living in the matrix makes me happy. You can't prove we aren't, so I'll choose to believe it." "Believing Donald Trump actually won the 2020 election makes me happy. You can't prove he didn't, so I'll choose to believe it." God is no different than any of these things. It is interesting though that people who believe in God generally do not believe in the above (with, in some circles, the exception of the last you listed). God belief seems to have a different characteristic to those other beliefs. That's not to say it's more likely to be true than those beliefs. Indeed, I have seen some reasonably compelling arguments that we're more likely to be living in the matrix than not. But there is something about it that makes people cling to it much more strongly than other examples of supposed wishful thinking. Considering that there are quite a few people who believe the last one, it might be useful to consider what it has in common with the God belief. I think it's that people often develop very profound, personal attachments to religion and politics (both falling under the category of ideology) and those beliefs become far more important to them than truth and reason; although very few people would consciously admit this, so instead of saying the belief is more important than truth or reason, they just assume they're truthful and reasonable. Religion probably happens most because of early indoctrination; many kids are told from a very early age that believing in God is the most important thing in the world, and this often accompanies threats about eternal damnation if they don't, not to mention moral and social condemnation if they don't. Politics usually doesn't get to kids as early, but many people base a huge chunk of their identity around their politics, often putting a kind of exuberant faith in certain figures/parties that's very similar to religious faith. It may just be a point in general that on any subject where passions run deep people often prioritize their beliefs (and all the feelings surrounding those beliefs) over truth and rationality. The reason most of those other instances aren't common (besides the Trump one) is simply because there's no real social mechanism for imbuing those beliefs with the same level of profundity. They don't scratch the same psychological itch for people desperate to belong to a group or cause and then have that in-group/out-group "war" dynamic that some people seem to crave. Another good example that I just thought of, though it's rarer still than the religion/Trump one, is sports. Some people become so passionate about their sports teams that they can't tolerate any criticism of them and will make all kinds of excuses when things don't go their way.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Jan 5, 2021 17:16:05 GMT
So then how was I lying when I said he didn't say anything that was false? And he supports his "opinion" with a little thing called "evidence." You should try it some time. Opinions aren’t objective truth. The guy is an arsehole who smears billions of innocent people. So there are no facts in that article, like how the miracles changed scales between the OT and NT, or how people went in search for Noah's Ark and failed, or how researchers discovered Jews were never slaves in Egypt? None of those things are facts?
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Post by SciFive on Jan 5, 2021 17:16:49 GMT
I guess she did enough that she got banned from posting there and has decided to bring the crazy here.
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Emo, this is another frigging lie. It’s all you do.
Read my signature.
I wasn’t banned from the Politics board.
I am 95% on Twitter now. I drop by here at times because it isn’t Politics.
You are addicted to lying.
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Post by SciFive on Jan 5, 2021 17:19:57 GMT
It is interesting though that people who believe in God generally do not believe in the above (with, in some circles, the exception of the last you listed). God belief seems to have a different characteristic to those other beliefs. That's not to say it's more likely to be true than those beliefs. Indeed, I have seen some reasonably compelling arguments that we're more likely to be living in the matrix than not. But there is something about it that makes people cling to it much more strongly than other examples of supposed wishful thinking. Considering that there are quite a few people who believe the last one, it might be useful to consider what it has in common with the God belief. I think it's that people often develop very profound, personal attachments to religion and politics (both falling under the category of ideology) and those beliefs become far more important to them than truth and reason; although very few people would consciously admit this, so instead of saying the belief is more important than truth or reason, they just assume they're truthful and reasonable. Religion probably happens most because of early indoctrination; many kids are told from a very early age that believing in God is the most important thing in the world, and this often accompanies threats about eternal damnation if they don't, not to mention moral and social condemnation if they don't. Politics usually doesn't get to kids as early, but many people base a huge chunk of their identity around their politics, often putting a kind of exuberant faith in certain figures/parties that's very similar to religious faith. It may just be a point in general that on any subject where passions run deep people often prioritize their beliefs (and all the feelings surrounding those beliefs) over truth and rationality. The reason most of those other instances aren't common (besides the Trump one) is simply because there's no real social mechanism for imbuing those beliefs with the same level of profundity. They don't scratch the same psychological itch for people desperate to belong to a group or cause and then have that in-group/out-group "war" dynamic that some people seem to crave. Another good example that I just thought of, though it's rarer still than the religion/Trump one, is sports. Some people become so passionate about their sports teams that they can't tolerate any criticism of them and will make all kinds of excuses when things don't go their way. OCD. ^^^^^^
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Jan 5, 2021 17:20:27 GMT
I guess she did enough that she got banned from posting there and has decided to bring the crazy here. ————— Emo, this is another frigging lie. It’s all you do. Read my signature. I wasn’t banned from the Politics board. I am 95% on Twitter now. I drop by here at times because it isn’t Politics. You are addicted to lying. I said "I guess," not "it happened." If I'm wrong I'll gladly admit it. If I guess and I'm wrong that doesn't make me a liar. A guess is an acknowledgement someone doesn't know for sure.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Jan 5, 2021 17:20:46 GMT
Considering that there are quite a few people who believe the last one, it might be useful to consider what it has in common with the God belief. I think it's that people often develop very profound, personal attachments to religion and politics (both falling under the category of ideology) and those beliefs become far more important to them than truth and reason; although very few people would consciously admit this, so instead of saying the belief is more important than truth or reason, they just assume they're truthful and reasonable. Religion probably happens most because of early indoctrination; many kids are told from a very early age that believing in God is the most important thing in the world, and this often accompanies threats about eternal damnation if they don't, not to mention moral and social condemnation if they don't. Politics usually doesn't get to kids as early, but many people base a huge chunk of their identity around their politics, often putting a kind of exuberant faith in certain figures/parties that's very similar to religious faith. It may just be a point in general that on any subject where passions run deep people often prioritize their beliefs (and all the feelings surrounding those beliefs) over truth and rationality. The reason most of those other instances aren't common (besides the Trump one) is simply because there's no real social mechanism for imbuing those beliefs with the same level of profundity. They don't scratch the same psychological itch for people desperate to belong to a group or cause and then have that in-group/out-group "war" dynamic that some people seem to crave. Another good example that I just thought of, though it's rarer still than the religion/Trump one, is sports. Some people become so passionate about their sports teams that they can't tolerate any criticism of them and will make all kinds of excuses when things don't go their way. OCD. ^^^^^^ Attention span of a gnat. ^^^^^^
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Post by SciFive on Jan 5, 2021 17:25:50 GMT
Some people study religion to the ends of the Earth and wax poetic about it because they want to destroy it.
These are the thoughts and lives of billions and billions of people who don’t know they exist.
It’s like having stalkers from thousands of miles away who judge you without ever knowing you.
No one is supposed to fight back against this.
Very strange stuff.
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Post by SciFive on Jan 5, 2021 17:27:18 GMT
Attention span of a gnat. ^^^^^^ ^^^^ Needlessly judgmental about billions of strangers’ thoughts.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Jan 5, 2021 17:27:32 GMT
Some people study religion to the ends of the Earth and wax poetic about it because they want to destroy it. These are the thoughts and lives of billions and billions of people who don’t know they exist. It’s like having stalkers from thousands of miles away who judge you without ever knowing you. No one is supposed to fight back against this. Very strange stuff. Can anyone here makes heads or tails of what this is supposed to mean? Very strange stuff, indeed.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Jan 5, 2021 17:28:31 GMT
Attention span of a gnat. ^^^^^^ ^^^^ Needlessly judgmental about billions of strangers’ thoughts. Only the strangers that offer those thoughts for discussion on a forum devoted to the subject.
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Post by SciFive on Jan 5, 2021 17:31:03 GMT
Emo can write long, long posts about why he thinks people care about the religions he wants to destroy. Creepy. 
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Post by SciFive on Jan 5, 2021 17:31:50 GMT
^^^^ Needlessly judgmental about billions of strangers’ thoughts. Only the strangers that offer those thoughts for discussion on a forum devoted to the subject. No discussions. Just judgments to smear billions of people.
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