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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Jan 5, 2021 18:08:02 GMT
If it's so childish then it should be easy for you to answer the question and counter the argument about why believing in God because it makes you happy is any more rational than those other beliefs. ————- Emo, it’s none of your business. We're on a forum for discussing this subject, so yes it is. WTF is "Emo" by the way? Only "emo" I know is the musical genre:
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Post by SciFive on Jan 5, 2021 18:08:26 GMT
Wrong!!!! I’m not offering it as proof of God’s existence. It’s proof that most human beings in all time that we know shared in the belief of a higher power but not in a unicorn. It’s about the nature of people. The cancel culture is going after the human race. |
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jan 5, 2021 18:08:30 GMT
God belief therefore has the powerful combination of meaning a lot to the believer and having few negative consequences if it turns out to be false. ————- Pascal’s wager.  That famous wager only works if one correctly chooses the right god in which to believe - and if it is ever possible to 'make' oneself believe where one has previously been sceptical.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Jan 5, 2021 18:10:38 GMT
Wrong!!!! I’m not offering it as proof of God’s existence. You're offering it as a counter to my claim that belief in God is rational. The fact that billions of people have believed something doesn't make the belief rational.
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Post by SciFive on Jan 5, 2021 18:11:15 GMT
God belief therefore has the powerful combination of meaning a lot to the believer and having few negative consequences if it turns out to be false. ————- Pascal’s wager. That famous wager only works if one correctly chooses the right god in which to believe - and if it is ever possible to 'make' oneself believe where one has previously been sceptical. I’m not endorsing it. I recognized it because I’ve seen it elsewhere. |
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jan 5, 2021 18:11:32 GMT
Wrong!!!! I’m not offering it as proof of God’s existence. It’s proof that most human beings in all time that we know shared in the belief of a higher power but not in a unicorn. It’s about the nature of people. The cancel culture is going after the human race. I think we are back to the Argument from Popularity again lol
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Post by SciFive on Jan 5, 2021 18:12:48 GMT
Wrong!!!! I’m not offering it as proof of God’s existence. You're offering it as a counter to my claim that belief in God is rational. The fact that billions of people have believed something doesn't make the belief rational. Cancel culture is attacking the human race. Humans not good enough for you? Try another planet. |
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jan 5, 2021 18:13:09 GMT
That famous wager only works if one correctly chooses the right god in which to believe - and if it is ever possible to 'make' oneself believe where one has previously been sceptical. I’m not endorsing it. I recognized it because I’ve seen it elsewhere. That's OK then.
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Post by movieliker on Jan 5, 2021 18:14:52 GMT
If you don't mind me asking, how old are you Eva? Because this is really childish. If it's so childish then it should be easy for you to answer the question and counter the argument about why believing in God because it makes you happy is any more rational than those other beliefs. Of course. And I may. But eventually it just seems to be a waste of time. Because I can't convey an understanding to someone who is either refusing to understand. Or incapable of understanding. |
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Post by SciFive on Jan 5, 2021 18:16:42 GMT
If it's so childish then it should be easy for you to answer the question and counter the argument about why believing in God because it makes you happy is any more rational than those other beliefs. Of course. And I may. But eventually it just seems to be a waste of time. Because I can't convey an understanding to someone who is either refusing to understand. Or incapable of understanding. It’s none of Emo’s business either. |
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Jan 5, 2021 18:17:39 GMT
You're offering it as a counter to my claim that belief in God is rational. The fact that billions of people have believed something doesn't make the belief rational. Cancel culture is attacking the human race. Humans not good enough for you? Try another planet. Now we're back to non sequiturs again. It's like a bot that's malfunctioning.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Jan 5, 2021 18:19:09 GMT
If it's so childish then it should be easy for you to answer the question and counter the argument about why believing in God because it makes you happy is any more rational than those other beliefs. ————- Emo, it’s none of your business. We're on a forum for discussing this subject, so yes it is. WTF is "Emo" by the way? Only "emo" I know is the musical genre: Did you know the original "emo" scene actually sounded way different than what the genre was later known for? Here's Rites of Spring, often considered the first emo band, they sound nothing like My Chemical Romance:
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Post by SciFive on Jan 5, 2021 18:19:18 GMT
Cancel culture is attacking the human race. Humans not good enough for you? Try another planet. Now we're back to non sequiturs again. It's like a bot that's malfunctioning. You’re stuck in the human race unless you are a robot. Many billions of people believe in a higher power. There’s nothing you can do about it except flail. |
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Post by The Lost One on Jan 5, 2021 18:19:59 GMT
You're offering it as a counter to my claim that belief in God is rational. The fact that billions of people have believed something doesn't make the belief rational. Cancel culture is attacking the human race. Humans not good enough for you? Try another planet. Surely though there are long-established human practices that you think it is acceptable to criticise, no? Slavery for instance. I'm not saying religion is as bad as slavery of course, but if the latter's long history doesn't protect it from criticism (nor should it), why should the same not be true of religion? |
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Post by movieliker on Jan 5, 2021 18:21:16 GMT
Of course. And I may. But eventually it just seems to be a waste of time. Because I can't convey an understanding to someone who is either refusing to understand. Or incapable of understanding. It’s none of Emo’s business either. What is none of his business? Certainly he has the right to question religion. And ponder why certain people believe. |
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jan 5, 2021 18:21:46 GMT
Of course. And I may. But eventually it just seems to be a waste of time. Because I can't convey an understanding to someone who is either refusing to understand. Or incapable of understanding. It’s none of Emo’s business either. Sorry, but anything voluntarily posted on a public discussion board becomes everyone's business if they care to take an interest. The fact that this is even being questioned just shows defensiveness.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Jan 5, 2021 18:21:49 GMT
If it's so childish then it should be easy for you to answer the question and counter the argument about why believing in God because it makes you happy is any more rational than those other beliefs. Of course. And I may. But eventually it just seems to be a waste of time. Because I can't convey an understanding to someone who is either refusing to understand. Or incapable of understanding. The only argument you've offered for believing in God is "it makes me happy" and "you can't prove God doesn't exist." I just offered you a string of possible beliefs offered for the same reasons. If you don't think any of those arguments are rational then you have two options: 1. Admit your belief is also irrational. 2. Argue why a belief in God is unlike those other beliefs. That's how logic works. It's not that I don't understand what you're conveying, it's that you don't understand that what you're conveying is irrational. Look, dude, you're talking to someone who's spent a significant amount of time studying logic and rationality. Do you really think I'm struggling to understand your points as opposed to you not understanding what counts as rational/irrational arguments? Think about that for a moment...
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Post by SciFive on Jan 5, 2021 18:22:51 GMT
Cancel culture is attacking the human race. Humans not good enough for you? Try another planet. Surely though there are long-established human practices that you think it is acceptable to criticise, no? Slavery for instance. I'm not saying religion is as bad as slavery of course, but if the latter's long history doesn't protect it from criticism (nor should it), why should the same not be true of religion? The smearing of billions and billions of people for their THOUGHTS is worth criticizing RIGHT NOW!!!! |
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jan 5, 2021 18:24:17 GMT
Surely though there are long-established human practices that you think it is acceptable to criticise, no? Slavery for instance. I'm not saying religion is as bad as slavery of course, but if the latter's long history doesn't protect it from criticism (nor should it), why should the same not be true of religion? The smearing of billions and billions of people for their THOUGHTS is worth criticizing RIGHT NOW!!!! Have those billions appointed you their defender yet? I still can't see it on my news feed...
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Jan 5, 2021 18:25:30 GMT
We're on a forum for discussing this subject, so yes it is. WTF is "Emo" by the way? Only "emo" I know is the musical genre: Did you know the original "emo" scene actually sounded way different than what the genre was later known for? Here's Rites of Spring, often considered the first emo band, they sound nothing like My Chemical Romance: Yeah, I know Emo actually had its origins in the hardcore/post-hardcore scene, but bands like My Chemical Romance helped popularize it (alongside the fashion movement) so that's what most people associate with the genre. FWIW, I'm generally not a fan of punk or genres derived from punk, including hardcore and emo. There are some exceptions, though.
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