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Post by thisguy4000 on Jan 4, 2021 21:06:20 GMT
The MCU as a whole is pretty lax about letting its heroes kill bad guys, but perhaps understandably so, people don’t really mind much when Iron Man and Captain America do it, since they traditionally haven’t been defined by the “heroes don’t kill” rule that comic books often follow. Plus, Captain America is a soldier anyway, so it’s unrealistic for him not to kill. With that said, one Marvel hero who is defined by his aversion to killing is Spider-Man.
Spider-Man in the comics has a pretty strict code against killing bad guys, to the point where he couldn’t even bring himself to kill the Green Goblin after he killed Peter’s girlfriend, and then taunted him over it. With that said, Spider-Man technically kills Ebony Maw in IW. Sure, he doesn’t do it directly, but he’s the one who comes up with the plan of sucking Ebony Maw into space, and he doesn’t seem the least bit choked up about it. In fact, he even humorously compares it to “this really old movie Aliens.”
Should this moment be more controversial than it is?
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Jan 4, 2021 21:22:31 GMT
No, there's nothing controversial about it. It's not like he had the option to drop Ebony Maw off at the local Police Station to be charged and tried for his crimes.
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Post by Archelaus on Jan 5, 2021 0:06:11 GMT
It's not a big deal to me. Ebony Maw was deadly and detaining him would be next to impossible.
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Post by blockbusted on Jan 5, 2021 8:50:57 GMT
No.
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Post by Ransom on Jan 5, 2021 9:33:25 GMT
That fake rule is the most stupid thing I've ever heard.
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Post by hobowar on Jan 7, 2021 20:20:44 GMT
That fake rule is the most stupid thing I've ever heard. If Batman can kill, can Commissioner Gordon arrest him?
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Post by politicidal on Jan 8, 2021 18:43:40 GMT
No, the situation called for it. People flip out about superheroes killing villains too much as it is.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jan 8, 2021 18:47:04 GMT
No, the situation called for it. People flip out about superheroes killing villains too much as it is. I don’t know. It’s admittedly been a while since I saw the movie, but what had Ebony Maw done at that point that made killing him Spider-Man’s go-to option?
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Post by PreachCaleb on Jan 11, 2021 19:39:17 GMT
Let's be honest: It was Stark who killed him.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Jan 11, 2021 19:39:43 GMT
That fake rule is the most stupid thing I've ever heard. If Batman can kill, can Commissioner Gordon arrest him? Gordon can arrest him now. Batman is a vigilante.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jan 11, 2021 19:44:02 GMT
Let's be honest: It was Stark who killed him. Peter is the one who comes up with the plan, and he doesn’t seem to have any qualms about it. I’m pretty sure that would still qualify as murder if they were in a court of law.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Jan 11, 2021 20:20:10 GMT
Let's be honest: It was Stark who killed him. Peter is the one who comes up with the plan, and he doesn’t seem to have any qualms about it. I’m pretty sure that would still qualify as murder if they were in a court of law. Or conspiracy to commit murder. But then again, Maw had abducted and was torturing Dr. Strange. He was killed in an attempt to rescue Strange. The courts would take that into consideration. So it might not even fall under the murder category.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jan 11, 2021 20:39:25 GMT
Peter is the one who comes up with the plan, and he doesn’t seem to have any qualms about it. I’m pretty sure that would still qualify as murder if they were in a court of law. Or conspiracy to commit murder. But then again, Maw had abducted and was torturing Dr. Strange. He was killed in an attempt to rescue Strange. The courts would take that into consideration. So it might not even fall under the murder category. Oh, I’m not saying that he and Tony would be criminally charged for killing an alien invader who tortures people for a living, but Peter definitely plays a part in the guy’s death, and he doesn’t seem to have any problems with it. It’s not a huge deal to me, but I bring it up mostly just because it hardly ever seems to come up in online circles, outside of a couple of Reddit posts.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Jan 11, 2021 22:02:20 GMT
Or conspiracy to commit murder. But then again, Maw had abducted and was torturing Dr. Strange. He was killed in an attempt to rescue Strange. The courts would take that into consideration. So it might not even fall under the murder category. Oh, I’m not saying that he and Tony would be criminally charged for killing an alien invader who tortures people for a living, but Peter definitely plays a part in the guy’s death, and he doesn’t seem to have any problems with it. It’s not a huge deal to me, but I bring it up mostly just because it hardly ever seems to come up in online circles, outside of a couple of Reddit posts. I'd say that's why he doesn't have a problem with it. Just like when he activates instant-kill in Endgame. With the fate of the universe at stake, it's understandable why he wouldn't be torn up about it.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jan 27, 2021 19:51:12 GMT
No. Nor should Superman killing Zod in MOS.
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Post by Spike Del Rey on Jan 28, 2021 15:25:49 GMT
Expanding on what PreachCaleb said, he had also assisted Thanos in wiping out half the Asgardian race as well as Xandar. So he'd already been an accomplice to mass murder on a huge scale, I don't think anyone should have a problem with Peter having no remorse in wanting to blast his ass out the airlock, so to speak.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jan 28, 2021 16:47:16 GMT
Technically, Iron Man killed the Maw.
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