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Post by Winston Wolfe on Jan 8, 2021 6:25:35 GMT
I liked them, didn't hate them like so many did, but I'm realizing more and more how much of a missed opportunity they were. Especially compared to stuff like Rogue One and The Mandalorian.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Jan 8, 2021 6:39:28 GMT
They'll be forgotten. Stuff like this is soulless:  At least I got Rogue One out of the deal. |
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Post by Popeye Doyle on Jan 8, 2021 6:42:29 GMT
Of the new trilogy, I think The Last Jedi is the best of them. Time won’t be kind to Rise of Skywalker.
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Post by ck100 on Jan 8, 2021 6:46:57 GMT
I'm assuming you mean the sequel trilogy and not Empire and Jedi. I don't think anyone will ever call the sequel trilogy great films, but I think in time people will see that, at least for something like Last Jedi, they're not as bad as people make them out to be.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jan 8, 2021 7:12:09 GMT
Seems like time is kind to most Star Wars movies, even the undeserving ones. In the case of The Last Jedi, considering how its criticisms are often...topical and unrelated to the quality of the film itself, I think that one especially will be well regarded. No one in 2037 is going to care about purple hair or old Luke not being the Luke from the EU.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Jan 8, 2021 11:55:02 GMT
I did not really hate any of the Sequel movies, i found them to be ok overall. But i do think its the weakest trilogy of the Star Wars trilogies.
Also taste is subjective not factual even if some people like to act like its factual.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2021 12:00:47 GMT
The Last Jedi will absolutely hold up if for nothing else but future analysis about what the film was trying to do.
The other two, not so much. They were just leftover popcorn.
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Post by senan90 on Jan 8, 2021 12:09:45 GMT
The Last Jedi will absolutely hold up if for nothing else but future analysis about what the film was trying to do. The other two, not so much. They were just leftover popcorn. That's harsh. The Force Awakens still holds up, and I can't decide what which is better: that or TLJ. This is a very good list to show how it's still fab: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accolades_received_by_Star_Wars:_The_Force_Awakens
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2021 12:11:34 GMT
The Last Jedi will absolutely hold up if for nothing else but future analysis about what the film was trying to do. The other two, not so much. They were just leftover popcorn. That's harsh. The Force Awakens still holds up, and I can't decide what which is better: that or TLJ. This is a very good list to show how it's still fab: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accolades_received_by_Star_Wars:_The_Force_Awakens TFA is fine. I enjoyed it. It's just nothing amazing. Just go watch A New Hope again. I thought we were talking long term.
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Post by kevin on Jan 8, 2021 12:19:50 GMT
I think, despite the current negative opinion of many people surrounding the movie, The Last Jedi will hold up the most over time. For better or worse it's easily the most unique and distinctive movie in the trilogy and is the strongest one thematically imo, which is what made f.e. Empire so great. TFA, while I think it's good, is more generic in that sense so I don't think it'll be remembered as much as TLJ. I think time will be very unkind to TROS. That movie is just a mess in every sense of the word and ended up satisfying pretty much no one. Both the people who liked TLJ didn't like it and the people who didn't like TLJ also didn't like TROS. I know I'm generalizing here, I know there are people that like TROS, but this is the general sentiment I'm getting from other people. In the future we'll just look back on it like that movie where they had no idea how to respond to the backlash to TLJ and tried to pander to the fans with ridiculous retconning and plot twists that pretty much destroyed everything that was set up in TFA and TLJ, which almost none of the fans liked independent of their opinion of TLJ. If they had any artistic integrity they should have just finished the movie the way they planned it like Lucas did with the prequels (which he completed anyways according to his vision, even if a lot of people didn't like it), but that also has to do with the fact that I don't think they had a roadmap for the story of the sequel trilogy beforehand.
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Post by spooner5020 on Jan 8, 2021 13:37:22 GMT
They'll be forgotten. Stuff like this is soulless: At least I got Rogue One out of the deal. Rogue one was FANTASTIC!!! |
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Post by Winter_King on Jan 8, 2021 13:46:55 GMT
Of course. Once the new Star Wars trilogy comes out, fans will hate it the new but love the old one.
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Post by CrepedCrusader on Jan 8, 2021 14:53:57 GMT
Much like the prequels, as the older douchebags age out and the younger viewers who grew up on the sequels replace them, the sequels will be reevaluated.
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Post by jamesbamesy on Jan 8, 2021 14:58:29 GMT
It’s possible for the first 2 films. But overall, it may be seem like an inconsistent mess of a trilogy with the tones shifting from one film to the other. But we’ll just have to wait for the next 10 years or so for the next gen of SW fans.
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Post by politicidal on Jan 8, 2021 14:59:53 GMT
People will still have their complaints but the cartoonish clickbait rancor will subside.
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Post by janntosh on Jan 8, 2021 15:18:24 GMT
Seems like time is kind to most Star Wars movies, even the undeserving ones. In the case of The Last Jedi, considering how its criticisms are often...topical and unrelated to the quality of the film itself, I think that one especially will be well regarded. No one in 2037 is going to care about purple hair or old Luke not being the Luke from the EU. If anything that will cause it to date more. TLJ is heavily tied to the culture of our times. It is the exact opposite of “timeless” |
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Post by janntosh on Jan 8, 2021 15:20:02 GMT
Of course. Once the new Star Wars trilogy comes out, fans will hate it the new but love the old one. One of the reasons the prequels go reevaluated was the Clone Wars tv show which expanded and have more context to them. The sequel trilogy won’t have such a thing. It’s a creative dead end |
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Post by lowtacks86 on Jan 8, 2021 15:27:51 GMT
Of course. Once the new Star Wars trilogy comes out, fans will hate it the new but love the old one. One of the reasons the prequels go reevaluated was the Clone Wars tv show which expanded and have more context to them. The sequel trilogy won’t have such a thing. It’s a creative dead end I really doubt most people even bothered watching the Clone Wars TV show, so I don't see how that's a factor. I think the reason "Phantom" got reevaluated a bit was at the time it was seen a huge dissapointment and couldn't possibly live up to the hype, once people got past that, it was seen as being an okish movie. Revenge at the time was seen as a large improvement over the other two (generally consired the best one) and still seems to be. I don't think opinions have really changed much on AOTC (I thought it was boring POS then and I still do now)
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jan 8, 2021 16:54:22 GMT
Seems like time is kind to most Star Wars movies, even the undeserving ones. In the case of The Last Jedi, considering how its criticisms are often...topical and unrelated to the quality of the film itself, I think that one especially will be well regarded. No one in 2037 is going to care about old Luke not being the Luke from the EU.Or Luke from the previous films. But you make an interesting point. Generations from now, how will people who didn't grow up with the OT view the sequels? Younger audiences that had less emotional investment didn't seem to mind them as much, I assume it'll be the same as time goes by. Overall the sequel trilogy won't make much sense with all the retconning of itself, and in its entirety probably viewed as a mess. I hadn't really thought about this. I can tell the difference between original Indy, Bourne, Aliens, Die Hard, etc. and their hollow sequels decades later, because I experienced them in real time. When my six year old starts watching them, will he notice the drop in quality? Will it feel like a stale rerun to him or just a different take on the same character/storyline?
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Post by judgejosephdredd on Jan 8, 2021 19:57:12 GMT
I doubt it. It seems like the course for Disney Star Wars going forward will be focused in the past, in particular right after Return of the Jedi, and supposedly over time they might end up just not trying to bother to connect with the sequel trilogy and go off in a different direction.
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