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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2021 2:50:18 GMT
Where are the best landing spots for these QBs who could be on the move via cut or trade.
Deshaun Watson
Carson Wentz
Matthew Stafford
Jimmy Garapolo
Matt Ryan
Sam Darnold
If I have missed any let me know. Im not counting Free Agents in here as the trade talk imo will be more interesting than the FA class.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2021 2:59:13 GMT
Here are mine.
Watson - Colts/Washington
- They apparently have the salary cap and are possibly a Watson away from SB favorites. Problem is I doubt Houston would trade him within the division. Washington has a decent young team that could put them on top of the division for a few years.
Ryan - 49ers
- Reunite with Shanahan. Not sure they can afford him though with upcoming free agents.
Stafford - Colts
- Stafford to the Colts makes a ton of sense if the Watson move wouldn't happen. Stafford is damn good but nobody ever notices because of the Lions always sucking. Give him a run game and a defense he would be in heaven.
Wentz - Eagles
- They should imo fire Pedersen and stick with either Wentz or Hurts because I don't see them moving him anywhere.
Darnold - Texans
- This is hard because if his option isn't picked up or he is traded he is hardly a quality guy at this point. Texans have no other option to get a QB. Maybe they can get something out of Darnold.
Garapolo- Patriots
- This too obvious?
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Post by millar70 on Jan 9, 2021 3:21:33 GMT
Backing up Justin Hebert might not be a bad job......
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Post by Xeliou66 on Jan 9, 2021 3:23:21 GMT
I really don’t understand why the Niners would want to get rid of Jimmy G, he led them to the Super Bowl last season, this year they were just too decimated by injuries to get in the playoffs this season, they would be stupid to get rid of him IMO, they still have a lot of talent and it’s hard to find strong QB’s and I think Jimmy G is one.
The Colts would be the perfect landing spot for a QB - they are loaded with talent on both sides of the ball.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jan 9, 2021 4:03:17 GMT
Watson- Patriots
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2021 4:56:39 GMT
I had them in mind but thought the other 2 would be better fits simply because the Pats offense kinda sucks so not sure they would be considered a "best fit". If Bill could draft a good WR than maybe. They apparently will have the cap space so maybe trade for Watson and sign a Robinson or Godwin? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2021 4:59:23 GMT
I really don’t understand why the Niners would want to get rid of Jimmy G, he led them to the Super Bowl last season, this year they were just too decimated by injuries to get in the playoffs this season, they would be stupid to get rid of him IMO, they still have a lot of talent and it’s hard to find strong QB’s and I think Jimmy G is one. The Colts would be the perfect landing spot for a QB - they are loaded with talent on both sides of the ball. A lot of people feel like Jimmy G was why they lost that game. I feel they have the roster that is a QB away and I dont think Jimmy is that guy that's good enough to win a game for them if need be in the playoffs. He is good enough to get there if all things fall right (he won an NFC Championship game throwing like 10 times) but fell short in the SB when he needed to do more than minimum. If they could improve I sure as hell would. |
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jan 9, 2021 5:28:25 GMT
Is Houston really going to dump Watson? They could get a king's ransom for him but proven top flight QB's are tough to come by.
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Post by Xeliou66 on Jan 9, 2021 5:33:11 GMT
I really don’t understand why the Niners would want to get rid of Jimmy G, he led them to the Super Bowl last season, this year they were just too decimated by injuries to get in the playoffs this season, they would be stupid to get rid of him IMO, they still have a lot of talent and it’s hard to find strong QB’s and I think Jimmy G is one. The Colts would be the perfect landing spot for a QB - they are loaded with talent on both sides of the ball. A lot of people feel like Jimmy G was why they lost that game. I feel they have the roster that is a QB away and I dont think Jimmy is that guy that's good enough to win a game for them if need be in the playoffs. He is good enough to get there if all things fall right (he won an NFC Championship game throwing like 10 times) but fell short in the SB when he needed to do more than minimum. If they could improve I sure as hell would. I don’t think Jimmy G is the reason they lost Super Bowl 54, I think Shanahan had more to do with it than Garoppolo, Shanahan’s play calling late in the game sucked, they abandoned the run game for some reason, sure Jimmy G didn’t play very well late in the game but I feel Shanahan choked more than Garoppolo, and Jimmy G isn’t responsible for the Niners defense getting beat by Mahomes and the Chiefs offense late in the game. And I don’t really see how they could improve from Jimmy G, unless they got Watson. If the Texans were willing to trade Watson to them I would do it, but other than him how could they improve at QB? An aging QB like Ryan or Stafford wouldn’t be an improvement over Jimmy G IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2021 5:53:05 GMT
Is Houston really going to dump Watson? They could get a king's ransom for him but proven top flight QB's are tough to come by. I doubt it but the news is out there that he might wanna be moved so I included him. No way could they get enough for equal value imo. He is worth like 3 first rounders at least. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2021 5:56:42 GMT
A lot of people feel like Jimmy G was why they lost that game. I feel they have the roster that is a QB away and I dont think Jimmy is that guy that's good enough to win a game for them if need be in the playoffs. He is good enough to get there if all things fall right (he won an NFC Championship game throwing like 10 times) but fell short in the SB when he needed to do more than minimum. If they could improve I sure as hell would. I don’t think Jimmy G is the reason they lost Super Bowl 54, I think Shanahan had more to do with it than Garoppolo, Shanahan’s play calling late in the game sucked, they abandoned the run game for some reason, sure Jimmy G didn’t play very well late in the game but I feel Shanahan choked more than Garoppolo, and Jimmy G isn’t responsible for the Niners defense getting beat by Mahomes and the Chiefs offense late in the game. And I don’t really see how they could improve from Jimmy G, unless they got Watson. If the Texans were willing to trade Watson to them I would do it, but other than him how could they improve at QB? An aging QB like Ryan or Stafford wouldn’t be an improvement over Jimmy G IMO. I think it all depends on how you view the 49ers Super Bowl window. If you have a franchise QB in this league windows last a long time. 49ers don't so they have a smaller window imo. They have a win now roster that imo is a QB away from taking them there. Matt Ryan is a flat out better QB than Jimmy. As a Falcons fan are you disagreeing with that? If the 9ers don't trade for a guy maybe they look to draft one. Not sure what pick they have atm but imo Jimmy G getting paid the way he does isn't gonna get them the Lombardi. |
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Post by Xeliou66 on Jan 9, 2021 6:15:55 GMT
I don’t think Jimmy G is the reason they lost Super Bowl 54, I think Shanahan had more to do with it than Garoppolo, Shanahan’s play calling late in the game sucked, they abandoned the run game for some reason, sure Jimmy G didn’t play very well late in the game but I feel Shanahan choked more than Garoppolo, and Jimmy G isn’t responsible for the Niners defense getting beat by Mahomes and the Chiefs offense late in the game. And I don’t really see how they could improve from Jimmy G, unless they got Watson. If the Texans were willing to trade Watson to them I would do it, but other than him how could they improve at QB? An aging QB like Ryan or Stafford wouldn’t be an improvement over Jimmy G IMO. I think it all depends on how you view the 49ers Super Bowl window. If you have a franchise QB in this league windows last a long time. 49ers don't so they have a smaller window imo. They have a win now roster that imo is a QB away from taking them there. Matt Ryan is a flat out better QB than Jimmy. As a Falcons fan are you disagreeing with that? If the 9ers don't trade for a guy maybe they look to draft one. Not sure what pick they have atm but imo Jimmy G getting paid the way he does isn't gonna get them the Lombardi. Matt Ryan might be better right now than Jimmy G, but he will only be that way for a year or 2. Jimmy G has a long career left in front of him, Ryan doesn’t. I just don’t get why the Niners want to get rid of a QB who led them to the Super Bowl just last season.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Jan 9, 2021 6:55:20 GMT
Well, they'll have about $70 million in cap space. Question is how much would it take, 2 firsts & 2 thirds maybe? Jimmy G would seem the more obvious, for all the obvious reasons. Josh might actually get a big say in this, if he's going to inherit the team within 3-5 yrs.
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Post by tristramshandy on Jan 9, 2021 7:55:47 GMT
If Roethlisberger flames out in the playoffs, I'd love to take on Stafford. Bobby Layne 2.0!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2021 8:28:13 GMT
I think it all depends on how you view the 49ers Super Bowl window. If you have a franchise QB in this league windows last a long time. 49ers don't so they have a smaller window imo. They have a win now roster that imo is a QB away from taking them there. Matt Ryan is a flat out better QB than Jimmy. As a Falcons fan are you disagreeing with that? If the 9ers don't trade for a guy maybe they look to draft one. Not sure what pick they have atm but imo Jimmy G getting paid the way he does isn't gonna get them the Lombardi. Matt Ryan might be better right now than Jimmy G, but he will only be that way for a year or 2. Jimmy G has a long career left in front of him, Ryan doesn’t. I just don’t get why the Niners want to get rid of a QB who led them to the Super Bowl just last season. Ok, so wait. You think the 49ers should extend Jimmy G? What has he done to be paid the way he has/is to be kept? Jimmy G won't win them the SB next year. Matt Ryan reuniting with his MVP coach could. You do not pay a mediocre QB like Jimmy G flat out. So you think paying him based on his production will lead to a SF Lombardi? |
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Jan 9, 2021 13:50:04 GMT
Matt Ryan might be better right now than Jimmy G, but he will only be that way for a year or 2. Jimmy G has a long career left in front of him, Ryan doesn’t. I just don’t get why the Niners want to get rid of a QB who led them to the Super Bowl just last season. Ok, so wait. You think the 49ers should extend Jimmy G? What has he done to be paid the way he has/is to be kept? Jimmy G won't win them the SB next year. Matt Ryan reuniting with his MVP coach could. You do not pay a mediocre QB like Jimmy G flat out. So you think paying him based on his production will lead to a SF Lombardi? Jimmy G (I refuse to try to spell it) may be injury prone but I think he’s better than mediocre. When healthy and a good team around him he wouldn’t hold them back. I think swapping him out for Ryan would be foolish for the same reasons Xeliou said. |
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jan 9, 2021 14:17:09 GMT
I had them in mind but thought the other 2 would be better fits simply because the Pats offense kinda sucks so not sure they would be considered a "best fit". If Bill could draft a good WR than maybe. They apparently will have the cap space so maybe trade for Watson and sign a Robinson or Godwin? If the Pats offense sucks, don't they need a good QB? Best fit would be the best guy available, in my mind. Then yeah, you build around him. They could've just built around Brady but Belichick thought he didn't need him. Oops.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2021 21:49:06 GMT
I had them in mind but thought the other 2 would be better fits simply because the Pats offense kinda sucks so not sure they would be considered a "best fit". If Bill could draft a good WR than maybe. They apparently will have the cap space so maybe trade for Watson and sign a Robinson or Godwin? If the Pats offense sucks, don't they need a good QB? Best fit would be the best guy available, in my mind. Then yeah, you build around him. They could've just built around Brady but Belichick thought he didn't need him. Oops. Watson would be the best fit for the Patriots sure. But imo not the best fit for Watson. I guess it depends on how you interpret best fit. I was going from a player perspective. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2021 21:53:22 GMT
Ok, so wait. You think the 49ers should extend Jimmy G? What has he done to be paid the way he has/is to be kept? Jimmy G won't win them the SB next year. Matt Ryan reuniting with his MVP coach could. You do not pay a mediocre QB like Jimmy G flat out. So you think paying him based on his production will lead to a SF Lombardi? Jimmy G (I refuse to try to spell it) may be injury prone but I think he’s better than mediocre. When healthy and a good team around him he wouldn’t hold them back. I think swapping him out for Ryan would be foolish for the same reasons Xeliou said. When I say mediocre I mean a mid tier starting level QB. He reminds me of "prime" Andy Dalton. Is he a starting QB? Sure. But its not like any team is going to win because of him. Could he win a Super Bowl to the extent that a Trent Dilfer? Sure. I just don't think he is the short term or long term answer if they want a SB atm. I sure as hell wouldn't extend him. So that leaves him in limbo. I think they could trade/cut him this offseason without much/any cost if I remember correctly. |
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jan 9, 2021 22:04:08 GMT
If the Pats offense sucks, don't they need a good QB? Best fit would be the best guy available, in my mind. Then yeah, you build around him. They could've just built around Brady but Belichick thought he didn't need him. Oops. Watson would be the best fit for the Patriots sure. But imo not the best fit for Watson. I guess it depends on how you interpret best fit. I was going from a player perspective. Ah. Of course he wouldn't want to come here, I wouldn't if I were him.
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