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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 6, 2017 4:43:28 GMT
tpfkar You clearly don't know how treatment for mental illness works. It's not the same as treating cancer. You don't just ramp up the morphine levels up until the patient dies ('doctrine of double effect' is not relevant to psychiatry, or eventually get to a level of treatment that risks the death of the patient. It should be understood that the patients are asking for death because they are suffering, and cessation of that suffering is a rational response, especially if it is a long term suffering that hasn't responded to previous attempts to ameliorate it. And it can be plainly seen that they are suffering very badly. The only reason that they aren't assisted to die is because of the cowardice and atavism of people who project their own primal fear of death from their lizard brain onto the patient's circumstances. I know you clearly don't have a clue about it nor multiple other things in general you've posted about, save your abiding wish for death. You don't just "ramp up the chemo agents" nor cut away everything when dealing with cancer, in any case. But treatments can get more aggressive, and more risking of death, but still fall far short of your wishes, unfortunately for you. And as mentioned prior, even if someone was to the unfortunate point of sedation while treatment efforts were made it would still be far superior to prescribed termination. And no, it should be understood that mental illness drives people to extremes, and wishes for self-harm can't be treated at face value. And you as a lay person, and a particularly morbidly emotional, illogical, and freely imaginative one at that, have no idea what their real situation is. You don't care regardless, as for you death and nonexistence is the superior state that should be strived for regardless. You should however be a little less free with projecting your own explicitly documented cowardice. 
And if society wants the fairest possible state of affairs, that would mean no humans and no society.Why is everything "clearly" to nasty filthy sodomites? Why is that?  |
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Post by cupcakes on Aug 6, 2017 4:46:50 GMT
Why is everything "clearly" to nasty filthy sodomites? Why is that? Why do certain total whackjobs incessantly fantasize on about "sodomites"? Clearly, there's an answer.
Strange, but I didn't see it that way. For the longest time I have been thinking that God the Father might be a collective, but I never thought of them as flesh and blood ETs. They would command incredible power, and not with science that we would understand, but with what would appear to be magic, or science we don't understand. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2017 4:47:47 GMT
tpfkar I know you clearly don't have a clue about it nor multiple other things in general you've posted about, save your abiding wish for death. You don't just "ramp up the chemo agents" nor cut away everything when dealing with cancer, in any case. But treatments can get more aggressive, and more risking of death, but still fall far short of your wishes, unfortunately for you. And as mentioned prior, even if someone was to the unfortunate point of sedation while treatment efforts were made it would still be far superior to prescribed termination. And no, it should be understood that mental illness drives people to extremes, and wishes for self-harm can't be treated at face value. And you as a lay person, and a particularly morbidly emotional, illogical, and freely imaginative one at that, have no idea what their real situation is. You don't care regardless, as for you death and nonexistence is the superior state that should be strived for regardless. You should however be a little less free with projecting your own explicitly documented cowardice.
And if society wants the fairest possible state of affairs, that would mean no humans and no society.Why is everything "clearly" to nasty filthy sodomites? Why is that? You're clearly resentful of the fact that I pointed out your hypocrisy on the free speech issue. |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 6, 2017 4:50:34 GMT
Why is everything "clearly" to nasty filthy sodomites? Why is that? Why do certain total whackjobs incessantly fantasize on about "sodomites"? Clearly, there's an answer.
Strange, but I didn't see it that way. For the longest time I have been thinking that God the Father might be a collective, but I never thought of them as flesh and blood ETs. They would command incredible power, and not with science that we would understand, but with what would appear to be magic, or science we don't understand.I have my faults, but at least I'm not a buttfucker like you. Whatever else I've done, at least I've never been party to something as dirty and evil as that.  |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 6, 2017 4:52:19 GMT
Why is everything "clearly" to nasty filthy sodomites? Why is that? You're clearly resentful of the fact that I pointed out your hypocrisy on the free speech issue. You're clearly a moron. |
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Post by cupcakes on Aug 6, 2017 4:55:01 GMT
tpfkar Why do certain total whackjobs incessantly fantasize on about "sodomites"? Clearly, there's an answer. I have my faults, but at least I'm not a buttfucker like you. Whatever else I've done, at least I've never been party to something as dirty and evil as that. One of your faults is imagining "buttfucker"s wherever you want them. Of the two of us, only one of us wants to merge with a masculine figure.
If I thought that were the case, I might be out robbing and looting and having a hell of a good time right now. |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 6, 2017 5:02:04 GMT
tpfkar I have my faults, but at least I'm not a buttfucker like you. Whatever else I've done, at least I've never been party to something as dirty and evil as that. One of your faults is imagining "buttfucker"s wherever you want them. Of the two of us, only one of us wants to merge with a masculine figure.
If I thought that were the case, I might be out robbing and looting and having a hell of a good time right now.And it isn't me, so that leaves you, Mr. Wabbit the Queer. |
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Post by cupcakes on Aug 6, 2017 5:06:24 GMT
tpfkar One of your faults is imagining "buttfucker"s wherever you want them. Of the two of us, only one of us wants to merge with a masculine figure. And it isn't me, so that leaves you, Mr. Wabbit the Queer. Wrong as ever, Mr. ? wants to merge with The Dude for all eternity delicate little gay-crazy flower.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2017 6:26:55 GMT
You're clearly resentful of the fact that I pointed out your hypocrisy on the free speech issue. You're clearly a moron. I wasn't sure whether you were badmouthing me to cupcakes, given that I am a homosexual who used the word "clearly" in the post to which was being replied. Cupcakes, as far as I know, is not a homosexual. |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 6, 2017 6:37:38 GMT
I wasn't sure whether you were badmouthing me to cupcakes, given that I am a homosexual who used the word "clearly" in the post to which was being replied. Cupcakes, as far as I know, is not a homosexual. If he isn't, why does he defend it so vigorously? |
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Post by cupcakes on Aug 6, 2017 6:38:51 GMT
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Post by phludowin on Aug 6, 2017 11:05:36 GMT
I wasn't sure whether you were badmouthing me to cupcakes, given that I am a homosexual who used the word "clearly" in the post to which was being replied. Cupcakes, as far as I know, is not a homosexual. If he isn't, why does he defend it so vigorously? Since when does someone have to be something to defend it? I have seen you defend maya55555 on this board. Are you maya55555? |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 6, 2017 19:06:06 GMT
If he isn't, why does he defend it so vigorously? Since when does someone have to be something to defend it? I have seen you defend maya55555 on this board. Are you maya55555? No, but I like maya55555. By the same token, he like likes homosexuality. He likes it a lot. |
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Post by phludowin on Aug 6, 2017 19:51:18 GMT
Since when does someone have to be something to defend it? I have seen you defend maya55555 on this board. Are you maya55555? No, but I like maya55555. By the same token, he like likes homosexuality. He likes it a lot. So? I like Beethoven's violin concerto. But I don't play the violin. |
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Post by gadreel on Aug 6, 2017 20:09:52 GMT
No, but I like maya55555. By the same token, he like likes homosexuality. He likes it a lot. So? I like Beethoven's violin concerto. But I don't play the violin. No no no, you are using logic against the anti-logic machine, you can cause reality to unwind like that. |
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Post by phludowin on Aug 6, 2017 20:40:33 GMT
So? I like Beethoven's violin concerto. But I don't play the violin. No no no, you are using logic against the anti-logic machine, you can cause reality to unwind like that. Would it be bad? Maybe I should collate on that... |
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Post by gadreel on Aug 6, 2017 21:02:39 GMT
No no no, you are using logic against the anti-logic machine, you can cause reality to unwind like that. Would it be bad? Maybe I should collate on that... Don't forget to measure the drift with your protractor. |
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Post by phludowin on Aug 6, 2017 21:08:42 GMT
Collating done. Conclusion:
Non-logic Is Bad If Reality Unwinds.
In short: NIBIRU.
I rest my case.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2017 22:34:36 GMT
I wasn't sure whether you were badmouthing me to cupcakes, given that I am a homosexual who used the word "clearly" in the post to which was being replied. Cupcakes, as far as I know, is not a homosexual. If he isn't, why does he defend it so vigorously? Maybe for the same reason I do - because he feels that it's the right thing to do. I would even defend your right to be an ignorant fool. Doesn't put me on your level. |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 6, 2017 22:41:43 GMT
No, but I like maya55555. By the same token, he like likes homosexuality. He likes it a lot. So? I like Beethoven's violin concerto. But I don't play the violin. That was a lousy comparison. |
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