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Post by tristramshandy on Jan 12, 2021 18:01:44 GMT
Basically I'm thinking of guys who got drafted out of high school but decided to go to college or guys who got drafted after freshman year of college but stayed in college until they were a junior or something like that. For example:
Barry Bonds could have been a Giant his whole career. He was drafted by them in the 2nd round of the 1982 draft, but he went to Arizona State. Pirates draft him out of college in the 1st round.
Will Clark was drafted by the Royals out of high school. Tom Seaver was drafted by the Dodgers. Mark McGwire was drafted by the Expos. Roger Clemens a Met. Nomar Garciaparra a Brewer. Todd Helton a Padre. Paul Molitor a Cardinal.
Meanwhile, the Orioles liked Mike Mussina so much they drafted him after high school and after college. Same with the Reds and Barry Larkin (who used a 2nd rounder after high school and a 1st after college).
What other players could have had great careers for somebody else if they had signed right out of high school instead of college?
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Post by klawrencio79 on Jan 12, 2021 18:08:01 GMT
Paul Goldschmidt was originally drafted by the Dodgers out of high school, as was Buster Posey by the Angels. Chris Davis was originally drafted by the Yankees (not sure if it was out of high school or not).
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Post by ReyKahuka on Jan 12, 2021 18:20:24 GMT
Ted Williams was drafted into the military in 1942 and recalled into military service in 1952. Does that count?
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Post by tristramshandy on Jan 12, 2021 18:47:17 GMT
Ted Williams was drafted into the military in 1942 and recalled into military service in 1952. Does that count? San Diego Padre great Ted Williams? Absolutely! 
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jan 12, 2021 18:56:13 GMT
Danny Goodwin was drafted 1st overall twice. By the White Sox in 1971 out of HS, but eh went to Southern University instead. He had a hell of a four years there and the Angels drafted him #1 overall in 1975. But the Angels rushed him to the majors, he stunk to high heaven and never was worth a Tinker's Damn. 150 career hits, .236 BA, and an atrocious fielder.
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Post by tristramshandy on Jan 12, 2021 19:02:57 GMT
Danny Goodwin was drafted 1st overall twice. By the White Sox in 1971 out of HS, but eh went to Southern University instead. He had a hell of a four years there and the Angels drafted him #1 overall in 1975. But the Angels rushed him to the majors, he stunk to high heaven and never was worth a Tinker's Damn. 150 career hits, .236 BA, and an atrocious fielder. Baseball drafting in the 70s and 80s seemed to be the least analytical endeavor in sports. I grew up in Central PA, and our Al Chambers/Shawn Abner gifts to 1st overall picks in MLB history underline that quite well.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jan 12, 2021 19:34:26 GMT
Danny Goodwin was drafted 1st overall twice. By the White Sox in 1971 out of HS, but eh went to Southern University instead. He had a hell of a four years there and the Angels drafted him #1 overall in 1975. But the Angels rushed him to the majors, he stunk to high heaven and never was worth a Tinker's Damn. 150 career hits, .236 BA, and an atrocious fielder. Baseball drafting in the 70s and 80s seemed to be the least analytical endeavor in sports. I grew up in Central PA, and our Al Chambers/Shawn Abner gifts to 1st overall picks in MLB history underline that quite well. Some were just unlucky. Steve Chilcott was #1 overall in 1966. never made the majors but he got hurt. Mets got a lot of grief for passing on the #2, Arizona State Of Reggie Jackson. Those Mets team in the 70's would have been really tough with Jackson in the lineup but the Mets wanted a catcher to go along with their young pitchers. Like Goodwin. the 1973 #1, David Clyde, was rushed by the Rangers to sell tickets. He had major league stuff, but his confidence was wrecked. Baseball also had about a million different drafts before the 80's. June secondary, January primary and secondary, etc. I think baseball is the toughest sport to predict amateur talent. HS pitchers never face a major league bat until they hit the minors, college players are often overused, no one can forecast how a player does in front of a big crowd with the media all over them.
And things haven't got much better. Paul Wilson, Bryan Bullington, Luke Hochevar. Neither of the 2013 and 2014 #1 overalls, Mark Appel and Brady Aiken, will probably get a cup of coffee. For the life of me, I'll never understand why a team would use a high #1 on a HS pitcher. For every Clayton Kershaw, there's 10 Colt Griffins, Matt Hobgood's, Trey Ball's, Jameson Taillon's
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2021 0:47:24 GMT
Randy Johnson was drafted in 1982 by the Braves in the 4th round but declined to sign going to college. Imagine a rotation of him, Smoltz, Glavine, potentially Maddux if they still chose to sign him.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jan 13, 2021 1:30:11 GMT
There's a ton of players who were drafted twice. Used to be "draft and follow". A prospect would be drafted in a late round and not signed, He would go to a JC. If he did well, the team might throw a deal at him. If not, he would wait for the two years. Many were drafted as college juniors, didn't sign and were drafted again after their senior season. Some great players, Gerrit Cole, Dave Winfield. Fred Lynn was drafted by the Yankees out of HS.
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Post by ThreeSticks on Jan 13, 2021 3:36:23 GMT
Chase Utley was drafted by the Dodgers in the 1997 2nd Round and by the Phillies in the 2000 1st round.
2019 1st overall pick Adley Rutschman was also drafted in the 40th round of the 2016 draft.
2015 1st overall pick Dansby Swanson was also drafted in the 38th round of the 2012 draft.
2013 1st overall pick Mark Appel was actually drafted 3 times. 8th overall in 2012 and the 15th round in 2009.
2011 1st overall pick Gerrit Cole was also drafted in the 1st round of the 2008 draft.
2007 1st overall pick David Price was also drafted in the 19th round of the 2004 draft.
2006 1st overall pick Luke Hochevar was actually drafted 3 times. 1st round in the 2005 draft and the 39th round in 2002.
2002 1st overall pick Bryan Bullington was also drafted in the 37th round of the 1999 draft
1998 1st overall pick Pat Burrell was also drafted in the 43rd round of the 1995 draft
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Post by ThreeSticks on Jan 13, 2021 3:38:18 GMT
JD Drew was a 3 time draftee.
20th round in 1994
2nd overall in 1997
5th overall in 1998
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Post by ThreeSticks on Jan 13, 2021 3:41:48 GMT
Matt Harrington was drafted 5 times.
7th overall in 2000
2nd round in 2001
13th round in 2002
24th round in 2003
36th round in 2004
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jan 13, 2021 4:54:45 GMT
Matt Harrington was drafted 5 times. 7th overall in 2000 2nd round in 2001 13th round in 2002 24th round in 2003 36th round in 2004 And never made the majors. He had a bad agent who priced him out of the market. Then he wanted 1st round money as a 2nd round pick. Then played independent ball and stunk up the league. He probably never would have been a quality pitcher but at least he would have got his bonus money. |
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Post by NJtoTX on Jan 13, 2021 21:19:20 GMT
Aaron Judge by the A's.
George Springer by the Twins.
Anthony Rendon by the Braves.
Kris Bryant by the Blue Jays.
Charlie Blackmon by the Marlins and Red Sox.
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