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Post by ReyKahuka on Jan 20, 2021 16:58:52 GMT
Argument aside, (and I love how Frogs has actually derailed his own thread here), the fun part of the aliens on earth debate is that either way, human history is a thousand times more fascinating than we realize. I'll top toe out on the ledge Frogs lept from already. Aliens are entirely possible. Aliens on earth on entirely possible. But you know what else is possible, frogs? That early humans had much more ingenuity than we give them credit for. The stuff we know for a fact they built, like something as simple as Roman aqueducts, are incredible feats of engineering for their age.
Every year we find artifacts and evidence that make us reexamine our ideas of what early humans were capable of, how far they were spread across the earth and how they got there. And it doesn't have to be aliens responsible. In fact, frogs, if you actually watch those Ancient Aliens shows (and I do, they're a hoot), the aliens would have to be even dumber than early humans for any of these schemes to be worth their effort. i.e., they came from across the universe with this insanely advanced technology, but they needed local yokels to dig mines or make runways in the dirt for them? It's kind of silly, isn't it? Chariots of the Gods presents an interesting case, and the original special and subsequent first season of Ancient Aliens are an intriguing watch-- again if you keep an open mind that people could also have done this-- but by the time they get to like season 15 episode 9 they're saying, "What kind of a person would come up with a ball point pen? Had to be aliens!" It's not presenting a case anymore, it's preaching the alien gospel-- and the kind of kooks who stormed the capitol the other day are the target audience.
As an amateur historian I appreciate that these conversations drive curiosity about a time in human history we will never truly understand; and I'm also scientific minded enough to suspect the likelihood of life elsewhere in the cosmos; but there has to be a limit to the silliness of the 'aliens built it' argument. There are things we will never know, and the speculation is half the fun. Just try to give your ancient ancestors a little credit, ok?
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Post by klawrencio79 on Jan 20, 2021 17:05:16 GMT
Argument aside, (and I love how Frogs has actually derailed his own thread here), the fun part of the aliens on earth debate is that either way, human history is a thousand times more fascinating than we realize. I'll top toe out on the ledge Frogs lept from already. Aliens are entirely possible. Aliens on earth on entirely possible. But you know what else is possible, frogs? That early humans had much more ingenuity than we give them credit for. The stuff we know for a fact they built, like something as simple as Roman aqueducts, are incredible feats of engineering for their age. Every year we find artifacts and evidence that make us reexamine our ideas of what early humans were capable of, how far they were spread across the earth and how they got there. And it doesn't have to be aliens responsible. In fact, frogs, if you actually watch those Ancient Aliens shows (and I do, they're a hoot), the aliens would have to be even dumber than early humans for any of these schemes to be worth their effort. i.e., they came from across the universe with this insanely advanced technology, but they needed local yokels to dig mines or make runways in the dirt for them? It's kind of silly, isn't it? Chariots of the Gods presents an interesting case, and the original special and subsequent first season of Ancient Aliens are an intriguing watch-- again if you keep an open mind that people could also have done this-- but by the time they get to like season 15 episode 9 they're saying, "What kind of a person would come up with a ball point pen? Had to be aliens!" It's not presenting a case anymore, it's preaching the alien gospel-- and the kind of kooks who stormed the capitol the other day are the target audience. As an amateur historian I appreciate that these conversations drive curiosity about a time in human history we will never truly understand; and I'm also scientific minded enough to suspect the likelihood of life elsewhere in the cosmos; but there has to be a limit to the silliness of the 'aliens built it' argument. There are things we will never know, and the speculation is half the fun. Just try to give your ancient ancestors a little credit, ok? Excellent post. Frankly, I marvel at the fact that humanity managed to turn Durian (which smells like a baby's soiled diaper that sat out in Arizona sun for an afternoon) into something of a delicacy. That right there is a good summation of our achievements that perhaps defy explanation.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jan 20, 2021 17:17:46 GMT
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jan 20, 2021 18:04:01 GMT
Uh, are you not impressed that those so called primitive humans were able to create ancient film cameras to capture the footage that you've included in this post? Come on Frogs. Give them some credit.
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Post by ReyKahuka on Jan 22, 2021 21:16:16 GMT
Food for thought. Tampa had three straight losing seasons before this year and hadn't been to the playoffs since 2007. Now they're in the NFC Championship Game. Who knows, it could all come crashing down Sunday. But what he's done already this year-- joining a new team at age 43, setting a franchise record for TD passes and leading them to the playoffs for the first time in over a decade-- with no training camp or pre-season, is incredible. It's clear he's the difference, but don't take my word for it. Regardless of what happens on Sunday, whatever point Brady was trying to prove by walking away from Belichick's bullshit in New England has been firmly established.
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Post by Jokers_Wilde on Jan 22, 2021 21:24:39 GMT
I went with 'other'.
If the Bucs play the Chiefs, then yes. If the Bucs play the Bills, then no.
Hoping Buffalo pulls it out. Their fans have suffered long enough. 
Of course, it's all dependent on the outcome of the NFC Championship game. 
Joker's Wilde
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Post by Winston Wolfe on Jan 23, 2021 1:22:07 GMT
Other — I’ll root for the Bucs if it means Brady hangs them up after they win.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jan 23, 2021 11:42:50 GMT
Other — I’ll root for the Bucs if it means Brady hangs them up after they win. What a great storybook ending
Like if Jordan won a title with the Wizards and then retired
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2021 11:47:44 GMT
Carol for me... 
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Post by Marv on Jan 23, 2021 15:57:32 GMT
No. I don’t like Rodgers much either tho so I guess I’ll root for the AFC.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2021 18:53:48 GMT
No. I don’t like Rodgers much either tho so I guess I’ll root for the AFC. Aaron Rodgers is an arrogant bastard. At least Tom is like a dad joke humble kind of guy.
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Post by Winston Wolfe on Jan 23, 2021 22:19:54 GMT
Other — I’ll root for the Bucs if it means Brady hangs them up after they win. What a great storybook ending
Like if Jordan won a title with the Wizards and then retired
Or if he had won one with the Bulls then retired. ...hey, wait a minute!
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Post by hehatesshe on Jan 23, 2021 22:52:05 GMT
Is Aaron Rodgers really 0-41 in his regular season career when trailing by 1 point or more in the 4th quarter to teams with a winning record?
I believe he's 1-8 in the playoffs when trailing by a point or more in the 4th (Dez caught it tho).
He has a career losing record against teams over .500.
He's 1-3 in championship games.
This is the most important game of his career. For his mental health. For his professional legacy. Against the best rush defense in the league.
All the pressure will be on him. Hopefully his collarbone can withstand it.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jan 24, 2021 23:20:42 GMT
The legend grows......
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Jan 24, 2021 23:26:55 GMT
Nope still not rooting for him. But I wasn’t rooting for Rodgers either so I guess this game didn’t matter much to me.
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Post by ReyKahuka on Jan 25, 2021 2:50:55 GMT
Tom Brady has gone to the Super Bowl half of his career as a starter (despite missing an entire season to a knee injury). He's played in 10 of the last 20 Super Bowls. I'm starting to think he might be good.
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Post by hehatesshe on Jan 25, 2021 2:56:53 GMT
Tom Brady has gone to the Super Bowl half of his career as a starter (despite missing an entire season to a knee injury). He's played in 10 of the last 20 Super Bowls. I'm starting to think he might be good. Actually, Coach Arians should be given the majority of the credit. I think he figured out this whole coaching thing.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jan 25, 2021 3:20:18 GMT
Now I am
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Post by Rufus-T on Jan 25, 2021 3:25:42 GMT
Here's a story of a man named Brady...
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Post by twothousandonemark on Jan 25, 2021 4:19:35 GMT
Tom Brady has gone to the Super Bowl half of his career as a starter (despite missing an entire season to a knee injury). He's played in 10 of the last 20 Super Bowls. I'm starting to think he might be good. He was speaking Belichick'ese on the podium.
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