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Post by thisguy4000 on Jan 21, 2021 22:01:27 GMT
I’m inclined to think I’ll prefer the Snyder Cut, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s also messier than the theatrical version from a structural standpoint.
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Post by hobowar on Jan 22, 2021 15:39:19 GMT
WHEN THE SNYDER CUT IS RELEASED!!!!.....
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Post by James on Jan 27, 2021 5:25:48 GMT
I'll assume the Snyder Cut, given it's hinted to be a more cohesive and consistently toned film.
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Post by Skaathar on Jan 28, 2021 21:50:20 GMT
From an objective standpoint? I'm pretty sure it will still be the cinematic version (Whedon). I mean, a lot of people are hating on that movie but it's still an objectively better film than BvS. Don't get me wrong, BvS was the more memorable movie, but for all the tonal inconsistencies of JL it still had better pacing, dialogue and flow than BvS.
And now you're telling me we're going to get a 4 hr version of JL which would probably resemble BvS? Snyder is a better stylistic director than Whedon but Whedon is a far better storyteller. That's not to say that I'm not eagerly awaiting the Snyder cut, all I'm saying is that it's the comic geek in me that's excited for it. The movie fan in me feels like it's going to be a very dragging 4 hrs.
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Post by DarkManX on Jan 29, 2021 0:19:04 GMT
Neither. The Whedon movie is a mess that he had to hastily throw together because Zach Snyder was off the project. Snyder's version will most likely still contain a murderer Batman and a gloomy Superman and probably feature the JL murdering people. Also, 4 hours is way too long.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jan 29, 2021 1:01:19 GMT
Yeah, that's a toughie. I'm sure Whedon fixed the pacing, gave us an actually likable Superman, and was responsible for the handful of cute moments (the end race, "Pet Semetary!"). The cost was awkward and obvious reshoots, rushing through character development, and some less-cute moments (...brunch?).
Snyder's will feel more consistent, both in vision and tone. The extended runtime will no doubt layer some characters, notably Cyborg. Then there's some fan service that I can't deny sounds fun, like Martian Manhunter and Darkseid. The cost will be the fact that it's a Snyder movie, with all of the things that entails: murdery heroes, pacing that make you want to stab yourself in the face, pretentious nihilism that thinks its smarter than it is, etc.
I guess I will pick Whedon's as "better", but Snyder's will be more interesting.
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Post by quagsjonny on Jan 30, 2021 3:45:35 GMT
I voted Snyder, and posted in the other thread. I don't dislike the theatrical release. An undecided third box? I hope the Snyder cut does not get so hyped that it will guarantee to be a disappointment, thus bringing JL more criticism, and we enjoyed it! Flash was great.
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Post by quagsjonny on Jan 30, 2021 3:58:51 GMT
Yeah, that's a toughie. I'm sure Whedon fixed the pacing, gave us an actually likable Superman, and was responsible for the handful of cute moments (the end race, "Pet Semetary!"). The cost was awkward and obvious reshoots, rushing through character development, and some less-cute moments (...brunch?). Snyder's will feel more consistent, both in vision and tone. The extended runtime will no doubt layer some characters, notably Cyborg. Then there's some fan service that I can't deny sounds fun, like Martian Manhunter and Darkseid. The cost will be the fact that it's a Snyder movie, with all of the things that entails: murdery heroes, pacing that make you want to stab yourself in the face, pretentious nihilism that thinks its smarter than it is, etc. I guess I will pick Whedon's as "better", but Snyder's will be more interesting. Agree about Cyborg. Our theaters are closed. We understand film, and mutually pause at the end of a scene. To pee, walk the dog, take a personal call etc. We follow the story. If it's 2hrs or 4 hrs. 'Run length' means nothing. The studio does not tell us to cut eight more minutes. We like to watch a complete film. Understanding, that profit is not made if a theater can only show a film 4 times, not 5 times on an opening Saturday.
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Post by primeone on Jan 30, 2021 18:29:13 GMT
Lmao
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Post by politicidal on Feb 1, 2021 19:48:14 GMT
I voted for 'neither'. The Whedon cut is harmless but extremely bland. Zack Snyder's version will probably be a more tonally consistent viewing but have a lot of the same issues that made WB nervous in the first place.
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Post by Skaathar on Feb 1, 2021 21:30:19 GMT
I voted for 'neither'. The Whedon cut is harmless but extremely bland. Zack Snyder's version will probably be a more tonally consistent viewing but have a lot of the same issues that made WB nervous in the first place. When Snyder was first fired/resigned, I actually thought it was the smartest move that WB had made. And to be honest, I don't blame Whedon for the mess of JL. They basically brought in the guy to patch up the movie and he did what he could do without completely remaking it... just so happens that he had far too different a style from Snyder. The main problem I have now is with WB and their complete lack of balls to push through with an overall plan. They keep changing their plans and they're all over the place with how they want the DCEU to look like. Confronted with this kind of chaos, I now find myself seriously missing Snyder. For all his faults, at least he had a plan.
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Post by politicidal on Feb 1, 2021 21:33:50 GMT
I voted for 'neither'. The Whedon cut is harmless but extremely bland. Zack Snyder's version will probably be a more tonally consistent viewing but have a lot of the same issues that made WB nervous in the first place. When Snyder was first fired/resigned, I actually thought it was the smartest move that WB had made. And to be honest, I don't blame Whedon for the mess of JL. They basically brought in the guy to patch up the movie and he did what he could do without completely remaking it... just so happens that he had far too different a style from Snyder. The main problem I have now is with WB and their complete lack of balls to push through with an overall plan. They keep changing their plans and they're all over the place with how they want the DCEU to look like. Confronted with this kind of chaos, I now find myself seriously missing Snyder. For all his faults, at least he had a plan. I feel the same way. Just pick something and stick with it.
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Post by ThatGuy on Feb 2, 2021 23:28:39 GMT
I think the problem with the Snyder Cut (besides it being a thing) is that it has hindsight on its side. This will most definitely not be the original vision of the movie.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Feb 5, 2021 2:21:04 GMT
I think the problem with the Snyder Cut (besides it being a thing) is that it has hindsight on its side. This will most definitely not be the original vision of the movie. As far as I know, Snyder still hasn’t seen the theatrical cut of JL. He seemed pretty adamant in his refusal to watch it.
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Post by Skaathar on Feb 5, 2021 3:03:39 GMT
I think the problem with the Snyder Cut (besides it being a thing) is that it has hindsight on its side. This will most definitely not be the original vision of the movie. As far as I know, Snyder still hasn’t seen the theatrical cut of JL. He seemed pretty adamant in his refusal to watch it. Shame. He could have learned a few things about it and known what to improve on.
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Post by onethreetwo on Feb 5, 2021 3:09:51 GMT
I can't imagine a 4 hour Snyder beat down will be better than the non offensive theatrical experience I had. I like 'em short and sweet. I wanna be in and out in 90 minutes.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Feb 5, 2021 15:16:56 GMT
Neither. I'm not sure anything can save it. I'm happy watching Secret Origins as a JL movie.
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Post by ThatGuy on Feb 7, 2021 21:09:20 GMT
I think the problem with the Snyder Cut (besides it being a thing) is that it has hindsight on its side. This will most definitely not be the original vision of the movie. As far as I know, Snyder still hasn’t seen the theatrical cut of JL. He seemed pretty adamant in his refusal to watch it. Don't think it matters if he saw that version. He's had years to think about the movie after it should have come up. He also has what other people has said about that movie and others in the DCEU to "fix" his story.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Feb 7, 2021 21:26:01 GMT
As far as I know, Snyder still hasn’t seen the theatrical cut of JL. He seemed pretty adamant in his refusal to watch it. Don't think it matters if he saw that version. He's had years to think about the movie after it should have come up. He also has what other people has said about that movie and others in the DCEU to "fix" his story. Most of the movie was already filmed back in 2016.
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Post by ThatGuy on Feb 13, 2021 18:21:21 GMT
Don't think it matters if he saw that version. He's had years to think about the movie after it should have come up. He also has what other people has said about that movie and others in the DCEU to "fix" his story. Most of the movie was already filmed back in 2016. Yeah, but he still has hindsight to add more stuff.
What they're doing is probably worst than if they'd let Donner finish making Superman 2 in the 90s. It probably wouldn't be a bad thing if fans weren't to the point they were standing outside the studios and making all kinds of petitions. Now it looks more like the studios caved to them.
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