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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2017 21:27:01 GMT
People like Dennis don't seem to realize how much screen time the hero would have to give up in order to develop the villain more. Films have limited running times, so something has to give, and Marvel has chosen to use that time on the heroes. Need a tissue? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2017 21:27:32 GMT
No, we've had people release videos expressing their opinions on the matter. There is no science to it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2017 21:28:01 GMT
People like Dennis don't seem to realize how much screen time the hero would have to give up in order to develop the villain more. Films have limited running times, so something has to give, and Marvel has chosen to use that time on the heroes. Need a tissue? Thank you for proving my point again. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 7, 2017 21:37:07 GMT
All people have humor, it's just a fact of life. Generic? How? The music is fine. You shouldn't go to a movie solely for the music. The story is about the hero first and foremost. They don't buy into that bankrupt "The Hero is only as good as the villain" argument, because that's a lazy argument. The only reason people say there are no stakes is because MCU is nice enough to let us know there are future movies being planned. Naturally, this kindness is repaid with criticism. No CBM is going to kill off the entire cast. In the past few months, we've had nonpartisan people release videos scientifically explaining why both the LOOK and MUSIC of the Marvel films are generic AF. It's science. So in other words, they don't like that they put in the effort to make it all look like a cohesive universe instead of letting the Directors go hog wild. Considering how carte blanche turned out for movies like the last Fantastic Four, MCU made the right call. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2017 21:50:43 GMT
In the past few months, we've had nonpartisan people release videos scientifically explaining why both the LOOK and MUSIC of the Marvel films are generic AF. It's science. So in other words, they don't like that they put in the effort to make it all look like a cohesive universe instead of letting the Directors go hog wild. Considering how carte blanche turned out for movies like the last Fantastic Four, MCU made the right call. I think Doctor Strange said it: "The greatest lesson you never learned is 'It's not about you.'" That's kinda the thing about filmmakers in a Cinematic Universe. It's not about their creative needs. There is a bigger whole that needs to be served before anyone's ego can be stroked. Marvel has done a great job of allowing their filmmakers as much slack to get creative with it as they can and still have everything fit, but something's gotta give when your films are like chapters in a book. |
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Post by Skaathar on Mar 7, 2017 21:55:04 GMT
All people have humor, it's just a fact of life. Generic? How? The music is fine. You shouldn't go to a movie solely for the music. The story is about the hero first and foremost. They don't buy into that bankrupt "The Hero is only as good as the villain" argument, because that's a lazy argument. The only reason people say there are no stakes is because MCU is nice enough to let us know there are future movies being planned. Naturally, this kindness is repaid with criticism. No CBM is going to kill off the entire cast. In the past few months, we've had nonpartisan people release videos scientifically explaining why both the LOOK and MUSIC of the Marvel films are generic AF. It's science. Don't really see how anyone would consider the look of MCU movies generic when they're doing something that no other movie franchise has been able to do before. They're able to make their characters still look very similar to how they looked in the comics, stay true to the character's personality, allow the heroes to actually kill the villains without getting backlash, infuse the movies with enough humor to make it fun and yet still get people to take them seriously.... I mean, can you think of any other movie franchise that was able to do this? So how exactly can their look be generic if they're unique in their look? |
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Post by Ecstasy on Mar 9, 2017 10:04:44 GMT
Looks like it's happening with Iron Fist.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Mar 9, 2017 15:04:32 GMT
Looks like it's happening with Iron Fist. Yikes. I see what you mean. It's at 0% on RT right now. Meh. In all fairness, the Netflix shows have a pretty one-sided relation to the MCU. Even though they're technically part of the MCU, the films don't seem to have any intentions of acknowledging the shows, and Kevin Feige has zero involvement with them anyway. Frankly, I'd be more shocked if a film in the MCU was poorly received. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 9, 2017 15:14:30 GMT
Looks like it's happening with Iron Fist. Yikes. I see what you mean. It's at 0% on RT right now. I was a little surprised by that. I think it's just because consensus hasn't been reached yet. |
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Post by spooner5020 on Mar 9, 2017 21:09:29 GMT
Yikes. I see what you mean. It's at 0% on RT right now. Meh. In all fairness, the Netflix shows have a pretty one-sided relation to the MCU. Even though they're technically part of the MCU, the films don't seem to have any intentions of acknowledging the shows, and Kevin Feige has zero involvement with them anyway. Frankly, I'd be more shocked if a film in the MCU was poorly received. Why would Kevin not be involved with the shows? |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Mar 9, 2017 21:18:24 GMT
Jeph Loeb is the one who oversees the Netflix shows, not Kevin Feige.
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Post by spooner5020 on Mar 9, 2017 21:24:30 GMT
Jeph Loeb is the one who oversees the Netflix shows, not Kevin Feige. Oh I did not know that. That explains why the shows feel so far removed from the movie verse. |
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Post by Ecstasy on Mar 11, 2017 20:04:05 GMT
Looks like it's happening with Iron Fist. Yikes. I see what you mean. It's at 0% on RT right now. It's funny how this happened shortly after you made this topic. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 12, 2017 3:43:35 GMT
Yikes. I see what you mean. It's at 0% on RT right now. Meh. In all fairness, the Netflix shows have a pretty one-sided relation to the MCU. Even though they're technically part of the MCU, the films don't seem to have any intentions of acknowledging the shows, and Kevin Feige has zero involvement with them anyway. Frankly, I'd be more shocked if a film in the MCU was poorly received. Yep. They're higher-stakes productions and are therefore less likely to fail. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2017 7:43:28 GMT
None. He'd die in Sokovia. mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm  |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on May 6, 2018 18:07:19 GMT
Not any time soon it looks like
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Post by Marv on May 6, 2018 20:01:58 GMT
I thought it had for me already. Then Infinity War relit the pilot.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on May 8, 2018 22:59:33 GMT
One dud does not a franchise ruin. They recovered nicely from The Incredible Hulk receiving lukewarm reception very early on, but now have plenty of other films and characters to fall back on if one fails them. When their first real flop happens, they will just not pursue that specific avenue anymore. Pretty simple. The bubble will burst if the flops keep coming in. Well Duh, obviously it'll be a series of flops. Three in a row will do it.
MCU is doing so well right now that even a movie that doesn't do gangbusters could be seen as the beginning of the end. People were saying that about Star Wars the Last Jedi because it had a 2nd weekend drop and it didn't make as much as TFA.
Take Black Panther: IMO that movie made about 400 million more than it should have. If it had made 300 million like Thor: Ragnarok did (instead of the almost 700 its made) it still would have been considered a smash hit, like Thor: Ragnarok was, and still considered totally ground breaking!
But it HAS made 700 million domestic. So if the sequel only makes 500 million there are going to be people who say "it didn't make 700 million like the first one did! Marvel must be slipping!" Even though 500 million would still be a monster hit.
Just that little bit of negativity could start the downslide. The public is nothing if not fickle, my friends.
Stay thirsty...
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Post by darkpast on Oct 17, 2018 3:18:24 GMT
2020
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Oct 17, 2018 10:01:07 GMT
Probably when the general audience get bored with comic book films. Unfortunately with the success of Venom it looks like we're not going to see that anytime soon my past self! |
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