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Post by The Social Introvert on May 11, 2017 7:46:25 GMT
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4MN3XnqhQU&t=11sWatching the two recently again, and I'm not saying Aliens is better (the two films complement each other very well) but I think Aliens has a lot to offer but gets an unfair amount of hate recently.
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Post by miike80 on May 11, 2017 7:59:41 GMT
I always found Alien to be better, and i rewatched them last week. Aliens is great also, but i prefer Alien
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Post by barkingbaphomet on May 11, 2017 8:55:22 GMT
nope.
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Post by truecristian on May 11, 2017 9:05:39 GMT
He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal.
Suffering. Billions are desperate, ravished by war, abused by Catholic "priests", starving, ridden by well-deserved diseases and punished by retardation for the sins of previous generations (Exodus 20:5). Billions more will eventually be tormented by Jesus during the Tribulations (Matthew 24:21) before His Second Coming (Revelation 22:20). Many unbelievers fail to understand why all this suffering is insignificant when compared to the Magnificent Love and Rewards that Jesus will give us True Christians™ in Heaven.
However, by applying some basic skills of calculus to this question, an answer emerges that proves for everybody how intricate and beautiful God's Master Plan is in its simplicity.
Let us make some educated assumptions: There are 7.4 billion (7,400,000,000) people on Earth. There are (let us be generous) 40,000 True Christians ready for Rapture (1 Thessalonians 4:17) During the Tribulations (Revelation 6:1 - Revelation 11:19) direct deaths by Jesus's Troops will encompass one third (about 2.5 billion) of mankind and collateral damage from famine, disease, wars, poisoned waters etc. probably 4 billion. After the tribulation and the millennium approximately 100,000 Faithful will join us. Conclusions: 140,000 will go to Heaven, 7,399,860,000 into Hell. (Heaven = Eternal Joy, Hell = Eternal Torture.) The 140,000 obtained by the methods of Creation Science is staggeringly close to the Biblical value of 144,000 (Revelation 7:4), so we'll use the 144,000 value later.
This seems bad. Now it is time to do some calculations.
The hell-bound majority on Earth will live on average 71.4 years.This means 71.4 * 7,399,860,000 years of mindless, excruciating suffering on Earth = 528,350,004,000 years that have to be compensated by Christ to gain a net profit in happiness.
Is this possible?
1 John 5:11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
John 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
Titus 1:2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;
Yes, it is possible. It is possible because eternity > a few hundred billion years! Even if only a single person was Saved into Life Eternal, after a mere 528 billion years all the suffering on Earth would have been compensated and absorbed by the Everlasting Happiness. After that, until eternity, the famines and the cruelty and cowardliness would mean nothing. And if we take into account the fact that there are approximately 144,000 saved ones, we can do some division and see that the compensation actually takes place sooner, after only 3,669,097 years.
The problem of torture and pain on Earth during the mundane life will thus be solved. However, the atheists are a cunning lot and will next refer to Hell, Eternal Excruciating Pain, Desperation and Punishment! Why would Jesus do that? Would this not make void the calculations of compensated suffering in heaven?
Matthew 25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Now, even atheists know that evil deeds need to be punished. This is the rule of Jesus (Hebrews 10:29). In addition, the punishment must be correlated to the crime. In this case, the crime is SIN. Let us see, what would be the fitting punishment for a sinner? First, we must ask how many sins the sinner committed on Earth?
Psalms 53:1 (To the chief Musician upon Mahalath, Maschil, A Psalm of David.) The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.
They do only evil things. All the moments of their life are spent committing sin. What are the sins they commit?
James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
They have committed every imaginable sin and also every sin that can be imagined by Jesus and God and as Jesus and God are infinite, there are infinite possibilities to sin for every sinner.
Psalms 147:5 Great is our Lord, and of great power: his understanding is infinite.
This is also clearly stated in the Bible:
Job 22:5 Is not thy wickedness great? and thine iniquities infinite?
Conclusion: Only Infinite Punishment is fitting for every sinner. While the Love of God absorbs the agonies of flesh on Earth easily within a couple of million years in Heaven, the sinner with infinite guilt and sinning will have to be punished forever to pay for his crimes against Jesus. These are simple rules, yet so elegant, so they must be intelligently designed!
Yours in Christ,
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Post by sugarbiscuits on May 11, 2017 13:07:45 GMT
I think Aliens is the better of the two.
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Post by politicidal on May 11, 2017 20:48:45 GMT
everyone has the right to believe what they want to believe Truecristian is way ahead of you.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2017 7:08:45 GMT
I would say yes. I like 'Aliens' more than 'Alien' but I also liked 'Alien: Resurrection' and I know some people who didn't like that so it is more of a matter of personal opinion.
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Post by Jerk on May 12, 2017 7:27:40 GMT
They are both great movie but I think Alien wins by a nose due to the atmosphere found in the movie. Alien is chilling. Aliens is trilling.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2017 13:13:17 GMT
For me, Aliens has remained great, while I now find Alien rather disappointing. Not as a kid, I loved both, and Alien was a lot more creepy. Aliens is more action, less creepiness. But that creepiness seems to have faded with Alien, whilst the action of Aliens remains great.
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Post by itsthatguyme on May 20, 2017 22:53:18 GMT
I always preferred Aliens to the first movie. It's just a better movie. It's prolly not the " cool" hip thing to say but it's true. The first movie just wasn't as good.
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Post by Heisenberg on May 21, 2017 17:11:20 GMT
Alien is my choice. Aliens? It's great, but I've burned out on it.
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Post by Jesse Custer on May 21, 2017 19:13:23 GMT
Aliens is a great movie, but too much action for this Genre.
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Post by kuatorises on May 22, 2017 18:57:27 GMT
Alien is a great movie, but Aliens has always been superior to me.
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Post by lukelovesfilm34 on May 22, 2017 21:35:23 GMT
Agreed. It is designed to be more timeless and universal. Instead of constantly relying on beautiful sets and cinematography to set the mood and atmosphere, Aliens creates character with its sets and cinematography. The greatest movies in history do that. From Citizen Kane and GWTW to The Godfather.
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Post by Spike Del Rey on May 25, 2017 14:27:28 GMT
No. Aliens, while still a great movie, feels too 80s and Cameron to me.
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Post by Jedan Archer on May 25, 2017 14:59:13 GMT
Conflicted about it. The first half of Alien is better than Aliens; but Aliens as a whole is better than the second half of Alien, if that makes any sense. Both are genre classics that hold up quite well.
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Post by PreachCaleb on May 25, 2017 16:14:07 GMT
I'd say they both hold up very well.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on May 25, 2017 16:40:50 GMT
Aliens hands down; I understand the artistic objections of it being essentially a dumbed down shoot-em-up a la Starship Troopers contradicting the nature of Alien. It is, no contest there. But IMO Aliens is more entertaining as an horror action movie than Alien is as a survival horror movie.
Correspondingly, I enjoy Resurrection far more than Alien 3, albeit on a much lower level than the 2 originals.
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Post by twothousandonemark on May 25, 2017 18:35:04 GMT
No. Aliens, while still a great movie, feels too 80s and Cameron to me. Yes, which adds to my love for it. Alien is the superior film though. The ensembles of Predator & Aliens were peak 80's action supremacy. Both e.t.'s came at us, we delivered the best we could & won.
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Post by hi224 on May 26, 2017 16:07:33 GMT
As odd as probably sounds Aliens actually is a bit more dated feeling as it feels like an 80's property.
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