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Post by sdrew13163 on Feb 1, 2021 7:18:32 GMT
Watched this yesterday and mostly enjoyed it. Not as bad as I was expecting.
The first 30 minutes are really great. Spielberg is at the top of his game creating a mysterious, fairy tale-like atmosphere. Everything in London with Wendy is sensational.
Then it gets to Neverland and has some issues. The humor gets a little too silly imo and Julia Roberts as Tinker Bell is awful.
Also - while he's not bad - Hoffman as Captain Hook feels like a miscast.
All in all, I think it's an enjoyable movie that I wish took itself a little more seriously.
Thoughts on this movie?
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Post by Spitfire926f on Feb 1, 2021 7:46:45 GMT
I hated Julia Roberts in this. I liked Hoffman. I agree it could have taken its self more seriously, that's a good take.
I wish they would have cast someone younger for Tinkerbell, and she shouldn't have spoke just like in the original.
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Post by stefancrosscoe on Feb 1, 2021 10:33:04 GMT
Huge childhood favorite, that often were sent on New Years eve in the 90s, but one that sadly did not quite live up the sweet nostalgia and fond memories.
Still, last time I re-visited it, I ended up with a kind 6/10.
Might have to re-watch it again some day. But highly doubt it might climb above the rating I gave it last time.
Hoffman and Hoskins were great, though.
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Post by kolchak92 on Feb 1, 2021 16:41:40 GMT
Tim Curry should have been Captain Hook.
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Post by politicidal on Feb 1, 2021 16:42:15 GMT
It’s fine. Some of the kids are annoying;namely the daughter. But I always liked it.
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Post by Marv on Feb 1, 2021 17:14:25 GMT
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Post by sdrew13163 on Feb 1, 2021 17:18:24 GMT
Tim Curry should have been Captain Hook. He’d be very similar to Hoffman imo. I’d rather have seen a tough, even more hammy performance. Hoffman was kind of playing it like he was in a stage play, but I’d have rather it be a little closer to the animated adaptation with some more grit. |
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Post by kolchak92 on Feb 1, 2021 17:19:11 GMT
Tim Curry should have been Captain Hook. He’d be very similar to Hoffman imo. I’d rather have seen a tough, even more hammy performance. Hoffman was kind of playing it like he was in a stage play, but I’d have rather it be a little closer to the animated adaptation with some more grit. What about someone like Jason Isaacs?
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Post by Marv on Feb 1, 2021 17:22:58 GMT
He’d be very similar to Hoffman imo. I’d rather have seen a tough, even more hammy performance. Hoffman was kind of playing it like he was in a stage play, but I’d have rather it be a little closer to the animated adaptation with some more grit. What about someone like Jason Isaacs? Didn’t Isaacs play Hook in a movie? Or am I stuck in some Mandela Effect? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2021 17:23:28 GMT
I agree. The first act is perfect.
The problem is, Spielberg went too far into the “kiddie” realm in Neverland.
It is said, Tom Hanks was originally his choice for Pan. But Hanks was filming “A League of their Own” and the schedules overlapped.
And honestly, I love Robin Williams, but Hanks would have been better. Could you imagine (in Hanks voice) lines like "What is this? Lord of the Flies preschool?"
I’d have cast someone like a 1991 Meg Ryan as Tink.
And Tim Curry as Hook, but Hoffman works fine honestly.
And like someone else mentioned, he went too far “G” in Hook. In the second and third act, he should have made it more even toned or some seriousness. It went too “Rated G”
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Post by Popeye Doyle on Feb 1, 2021 17:39:53 GMT
Even when a kid, I didn’t like it.
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Post by politicidal on Feb 1, 2021 18:03:44 GMT
What about someone like Jason Isaacs? Didn’t Isaacs play Hook in a movie? Or am I stuck in some Mandela Effect? He did in the 2003 movie which I also liked.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Feb 1, 2021 18:12:25 GMT
I mean i watched it in 1992 i think when i was 9, i don`t know what i would think of it today but as far as i remember i liked it when i was 9.
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Post by moviemouth on Feb 1, 2021 18:40:26 GMT
I like it, but it definitely has writing issues in the second half. I agree that it gets a bit too silly sometimes it also is aimless in some places.
I don't mind Julia Roberts in it and Dustin Hoffman and Robin Williams are awesome in it, though all 3 are miscast to some extent.
What really makes the movie is the technical aspects though and the energy of it all. One of John Williams's best scores and the creation of Neverland is great. Robin Williams arc is handled well too.
7/10
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Post by Stammerhead on Feb 1, 2021 18:52:49 GMT
I found it to be very annoying when I saw it at the cinema and haven’t watched it since. I was in my early 30s at the time though so probably not in the target audience.
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Post by Downey on Feb 1, 2021 19:54:35 GMT
Dustin Hoffman as Hook is the only memorable thing about the movie. All of Robin Williams's films are dull.
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Post by sdrew13163 on Feb 1, 2021 20:54:21 GMT
He’d be very similar to Hoffman imo. I’d rather have seen a tough, even more hammy performance. Hoffman was kind of playing it like he was in a stage play, but I’d have rather it be a little closer to the animated adaptation with some more grit. What about someone like Jason Isaacs? Haven’t seen the ‘03 movie. Not sure I’d like him in the role, but I suppose I should check it out before I assume. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2021 20:54:27 GMT
Dustin Hoffman as Hook is the only memorable thing about the movie. All of Robin Williams's films are dull. I disagree, Mrs. Doubtfire and Good Will Hunting were good. But Tom Hanks as Pan would have been better. |
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Post by sdrew13163 on Feb 1, 2021 20:59:17 GMT
Dustin Hoffman as Hook is the only memorable thing about the movie. All of Robin Williams's films are dull. I disagree, Mrs. Doubtfire and Good Will Hunting were good. But Tom Hanks as Pan would have been better. I would’ve preferred someone a little more believable as an action hero. As cliche as it sounds, someone like Tom Cruise or Johnny Depp would’ve been good. Acting chops to pull off the early stuff, but physical and comedic enough for the later action/screwball elements. If they really wanted to get wild, maybe even Mel Gibson. Sounds ridiculous at first, but he’s proven himself in action-comedies and as an all around stellar dramatic actor. Then again, not sure Spielberg and Gibson would get along too well... |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2021 21:03:28 GMT
I disagree, Mrs. Doubtfire and Good Will Hunting were good. But Tom Hanks as Pan would have been better. I would’ve preferred someone a little more believable as an action hero. As cliche as it sounds, someone like Tom Cruise or Johnny Depp would’ve been good. Acting chops to pull off the early stuff, but physical and comedic enough for the later action/screwball elements. If they really wanted to get wild, maybe even Mel Gibson. Sounds ridiculous at first, but he’s proven himself in action-comedies and as an all around stellar dramatic actor. Then again, not sure Spielberg and Gibson would get along too well... What about Cary Elwes? (Robin Hood Men in Tights and Princess Bride?) plus he’s a Brit. |
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