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Post by lowtacks86 on Feb 3, 2021 18:46:36 GMT
By that I mean the original, not remake (never watched it). Keep in mind Leatherface was mentally retarded (or had some sort of metnal incapacity) and essentially taking orders from his family ( who were evil), so I dunno if he really had much self autonomy.
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Post by Marv on Feb 3, 2021 19:25:28 GMT
Yes.
You don’t chop people up and wear their skin as a mask without being evil.
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Post by kolchak92 on Feb 3, 2021 19:29:28 GMT
I'd say so yeah. You don't need to have a high IQ to be evil.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Feb 3, 2021 19:35:18 GMT
I'd say so yeah. You don't need to have a high IQ to be evil. Have you ever seen the movie Slingblade? Would you consider him "evil"?
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Post by kolchak92 on Feb 3, 2021 19:39:13 GMT
I'd say so yeah. You don't need to have a high IQ to be evil. Have you ever seen the movie Slingblade? Would you consider him "evil"? Actually I haven't so I cannot answer your question.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Feb 3, 2021 19:45:51 GMT
I don’t think he realizes what he does is evil.
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Post by moviemouth on Feb 3, 2021 19:56:40 GMT
That is a good question.
He is evil (his actions I mean), but it isn't his fault.
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Post by moviemouth on Feb 3, 2021 19:58:19 GMT
I'd say so yeah. You don't need to have a high IQ to be evil. Have you ever seen the movie Slingblade? Would you consider him "evil"? He killed one person in Sling Blade as an evil act. Comparing him to Leatherface is unfair imo. The other person he killed to protect the kid.
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Post by jamesbamesy on Feb 3, 2021 21:36:12 GMT
He’s mentally insane so he isn’t aware of it. So, unintentionally evil.
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Post by moviemouth on Feb 3, 2021 22:01:50 GMT
He’s mentally insane so he isn’t aware of it. So, unintentionally evil. That is a good way to put it and there are interesting discussions to have about this. There are many people who do evil and think that they are doing good, there are people who do evil and are unaware that that there actions are bad (insane, brainwashed, mentally slow etc.) and then there are people who do evil, who know there actions are evil and just don't care. Leatherface would fit into the 2nd category. I would say that Leatharface is both brainwashed and mentally slow and probably insane too. This makes him one of the more unique movie villains. Evil is relative too. There are people who would say that anyone who supports the death penalty is evil.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Feb 3, 2021 22:05:05 GMT
I need to look it up, but was he ever actually called "Leatherface" in the movie? There was a similar situation in the first Hellraiser (the lead cenobite is never actually called "Pinhead")
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Post by moviemouth on Feb 3, 2021 22:08:42 GMT
I need to look it up, but was he ever actually called "Leatherface" in the movie? There was a similar situation in the first Hellraiser (the lead cenobite is never actually called "Pinhead") No. None of them are referred to by any name at all in the original. I don't even think they have a last name until the second movie.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Feb 3, 2021 22:35:56 GMT
I'd say so yeah. You don't need to have a high IQ to be evil. Have you ever seen the movie Slingblade? Would you consider him "evil"? Unless I missed the part where Karl wore other peoples faces, no
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Post by moviemouth on Feb 3, 2021 22:41:58 GMT
Have you ever seen the movie Slingblade? Would you consider him "evil"? Unless I missed the part where Karl wore other peoples faces, no
I think a case can be made that the family put that upon him. My impression is that the family made him what he is and probably told him to wear a mask to hide his disfigured face. The psychological framing of Leatherface would have been very easy considering he is mentally challenged and would likely already have had a hard time understanding the difference between right and wrong. I hardly see how wearing other people's faces makes any difference. He is already a cannibal mass murderer. Cutting off their faces after the fact is the least of his problems.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Feb 3, 2021 22:45:48 GMT
Unless I missed the part where Karl wore other peoples faces, no
I think a case can be made that the family put that upon him. My impression is that the family made him what he is and probably told him to wear a mask to hide his disfigured face. The psychological framing of Leatherface would have been very easy considering he is mentally challenged and would likely already have had a hard time understanding the difference between right and wrong. I hardly see how wearing other people's faces makes any difference. He is already a cannibal mass murderer. Cutting off their faces after the fact is the least of his problems. To be honest, I seem TCSM once a long time ago. It is definitely not my cup of tea. But Leatherface makes Karl Childers look like a saint
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Post by moviemouth on Feb 3, 2021 22:51:09 GMT
I think a case can be made that the family put that upon him. My impression is that the family made him what he is and probably told him to wear a mask to hide his disfigured face. The psychological framing of Leatherface would have been very easy considering he is mentally challenged and would likely already have had a hard time understanding the difference between right and wrong. I hardly see how wearing other people's faces makes any difference. He is already a cannibal mass murderer. Cutting off their faces after the fact is the least of his problems. To be honest, I seem TCSM once a long time ago. It is definitely not my cup of tea. But Leatherface makes Karl Childers look like a saint
The point is that can someone be evil if they don't understand the difference between right and wrong behavior. The impression I get watching the original is that Leatherface doesn't. The conclusion is that while his actions are extremely evil, he himself isn't. This of course depends on how the OP is defining what makes someone evil. Freddy Krueger by comparison knows his actions are bad and just doesn't care. He enjoys what he does immensely. Leatherface is much different. He is more like an animal.
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Post by darkreviewer2013 on Feb 4, 2021 9:13:03 GMT
Leatherface is mentally challenged and incapable of determining the morality or otherwise of his actions. He's deeply disturbed but not evil.
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