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Post by dirtypillows on Feb 5, 2021 3:28:20 GMT
From all the ones I've checked out, they've all been really good and would love to find more. I know a few below are on YouTube, too. -Fat City -Minnie And Moskowitz -The Visitors -The Blue Motel -Wanda and "Les Chat" (The Cat) from France, featuring Jean Gabin and Simona Signoret Some are very low-budget (maybe all), but it features some fine acting, script, and the general story… Some don't have much movement, some take place in one setting. By the mid-70s, it got stylized with "Taxi Driver" and seemed to have died down since in favor of blockbusters, instead of the more personal movie. Does anyone have any favorites or recommendations? I liked "Fat City" a lot. It was super gritty and even drab, but so involving. "Wanda" was even moreso, but the main character is soooo lifeless that the whole movie is a depressing experience. |
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Post by dirtypillows on Feb 5, 2021 3:30:59 GMT
I love Rip Torn's performance in "Payday". What a wild man! I marvel at the fact that he and Geraldine Page were a seemingly devoted couple for all those years. On the surface, they do not appear simpatico. |
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Post by dirtypillows on Feb 5, 2021 4:13:00 GMT
I wouldn't call it a gritty film, but "The Last Picture Show" feels like just about the most wonderfully natural film I've ever seen. Its basic appeal seems to be how natural and realistic it all is. And the opposite of boring!
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Post by drystyx on Feb 5, 2021 4:54:55 GMT
You picked a poor decade for realism. The seventies is famous for movie makers with "contrived" grittiness to preach sermons. Just about anything Pacino was in, particularly the ridiculous Dog Day Afternoon which tries to make bank robbers appear humane and motivated. Don't believe that in real life.
There have been some good picks, such as Killing Fields, but for the most part, the myth of the seventies is totally mythical, and a throwback to the days of Homer and the Greek hero.
HANG EM HIGH actually has a lot of grit and realism, albeit in extravagant violence. Culpepper and Bad Company are mostly natural, but do contain a few mythical notes.
Maybe the grittiest one is BURY ME AN ANGEL, a hidden gem that runs like a formula film, except there are twists that make it realistic versions of extravagant Hollywood, including the twist at the end. That would be my pick for "gritty, natural, realistic" movie of seventies. It's disguised till the end as something else.
There were some made for TV movies that just blew away the Hollywood formula films. THE INTRUDERS with Don Murray, John Saxon, and Edmond O'Brien fits this category for Westerns. LOST FLIGHT with Lloyd Bridges is a hidden gem about a crash on an island, and has a realistic touch that modern day geeks would hate.
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Post by mortsahlfan on Feb 5, 2021 13:16:30 GMT
You picked a poor decade for realism. The seventies is famous for movie makers with "contrived" grittiness to preach sermons. Just about anything Pacino was in, particularly the ridiculous Dog Day Afternoon which tries to make bank robbers appear humane and motivated. Don't believe that in real life. There have been some good picks, such as Killing Fields, but for the most part, the myth of the seventies is totally mythical, and a throwback to the days of Homer and the Greek hero. HANG EM HIGH actually has a lot of grit and realism, albeit in extravagant violence. Culpepper and Bad Company are mostly natural, but do contain a few mythical notes. Maybe the grittiest one is BURY ME AN ANGEL, a hidden gem that runs like a formula film, except there are twists that make it realistic versions of extravagant Hollywood, including the twist at the end. That would be my pick for "gritty, natural, realistic" movie of seventies. It's disguised till the end as something else. There were some made for TV movies that just blew away the Hollywood formula films. THE INTRUDERS with Don Murray, John Saxon, and Edmond O'Brien fits this category for Westerns. LOST FLIGHT with Lloyd Bridges is a hidden gem about a crash on an island, and has a realistic touch that modern day geeks would hate. What do you think is more real? The 1960s? It's certainly not the decadent, bubble-gum materialist 80s.
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Post by mortsahlfan on Feb 5, 2021 15:34:38 GMT
I don't know how I forgot my favorite movie ever -- "Harry and Tonto"
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Post by mortsahlfan on Feb 5, 2021 15:44:53 GMT
I don't know how I forgot my favorite movie ever -- "Harry and Tonto"
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Post by dirtypillows on Feb 5, 2021 22:58:40 GMT
You picked a poor decade for realism. The seventies is famous for movie makers with "contrived" grittiness to preach sermons. Just about anything Pacino was in, particularly the ridiculous Dog Day Afternoon which tries to make bank robbers appear humane and motivated. Don't believe that in real life. There have been some good picks, such as Killing Fields, but for the most part, the myth of the seventies is totally mythical, and a throwback to the days of Homer and the Greek hero. HANG EM HIGH actually has a lot of grit and realism, albeit in extravagant violence. Culpepper and Bad Company are mostly natural, but do contain a few mythical notes. Maybe the grittiest one is BURY ME AN ANGEL, a hidden gem that runs like a formula film, except there are twists that make it realistic versions of extravagant Hollywood, including the twist at the end. That would be my pick for "gritty, natural, realistic" movie of seventies. It's disguised till the end as something else. There were some made for TV movies that just blew away the Hollywood formula films. THE INTRUDERS with Don Murray, John Saxon, and Edmond O'Brien fits this category for Westerns. LOST FLIGHT with Lloyd Bridges is a hidden gem about a crash on an island, and has a realistic touch that modern day geeks would hate. What do you think is more real? The 1960s? It's certainly not the decadent, bubble-rgum materialist 80s. yeah, i agree with you What, does "drystyx" think that "Pillow Talk" was hard hitting and factually accurate? |
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Post by drystyx on Feb 6, 2021 1:52:13 GMT
You picked a poor decade for realism. The seventies is famous for movie makers with "contrived" grittiness to preach sermons. Just about anything Pacino was in, particularly the ridiculous Dog Day Afternoon which tries to make bank robbers appear humane and motivated. Don't believe that in real life.
I love DDA and even if it may appear to take a sympathetic stance to the bank robbers, were they not motivated by all accounts on record? It was an act of desperation, even if Sonny and Sal were thick as two bricks. That just tells us that there are control freaks who are in charge of making and keeping records. I've lived over sixty years, and I've seen it. Facts are deliberately discarded to provide whatever narrative that the mob wants to make, and the mob has been in charge of all the estates, save perhaps some of the clergy and a some of the law, for at least fifty years. There are no "fact checks". All you get is lies to rationalize the hate that the mob has towards the outcast Untouchable families.
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Post by mortsahlfan on Feb 7, 2021 15:43:39 GMT
What about "Last Tango In Paris"? It might be stylish, but it still fits the criteria of "gritty, natural, and realistic" for its time.
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Post by mortsahlfan on Feb 7, 2021 15:46:18 GMT
I love DDA and even if it may appear to take a sympathetic stance to the bank robbers, were they not motivated by all accounts on record? It was an act of desperation, even if Sonny and Sal were thick as two bricks. That just tells us that there are control freaks who are in charge of making and keeping records. I've lived over sixty years, and I've seen it. Facts are deliberately discarded to provide whatever narrative that the mob wants to make, and the mob has been in charge of all the estates, save perhaps some of the clergy and a some of the law, for at least fifty years. There are no "fact checks". All you get is lies to rationalize the hate that the mob has towards the outcast Untouchable families.
Hi.. I'm not really understanding your last comment, but I want to, since you lived during the 70s.
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Post by mortsahlfan on May 21, 2021 20:36:22 GMT
The Honeymoon Killers (1970)
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Post by taylorfirst1 on May 21, 2021 20:55:21 GMT
Deliverance
The Taking of Pelham 123
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Post by millar70 on May 21, 2021 22:12:34 GMT
Slap Shot is as 70's as you could possibly get.
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