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Post by mikef6 on Feb 6, 2021 15:46:34 GMT
My religious upbringing wasn't as authoritarian as the JW but it was strict evangelical (the Southern Baptist Convention) but many of the things that essayist wrote applied, esp. about sex. Sex was really the only sin. #2, way down on the list, was drinking alcohol. In college (it was a Baptist College), the Vietnam War was just heating up and creating discord in the country. Still, the pastors, when they spoke to young people of ethics and proper behavior, were focused only on dancing. Yes, dancing. War and peace? What's that got to do with anything? Business ethics? Never heard of it. Racism and equal rights? What's that got to do with us? Just don't go to school dances and rub bodies together or jump around like savages.
I left them during my last year at the university over their disregard, if not contempt, for anyone outside their bubble. Also because they were against rubbing bodies together.
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Post by Isapop on Feb 6, 2021 16:40:50 GMT
Definite potential for a mini-series like The Queen's Gambit. It would bring the viewer into two different worlds (growing up JW and then bondage modeling) they're probably unacquainted with.
Hopefully streaming soon on Netflix.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Feb 6, 2021 17:44:56 GMT
This is actually more common that people might think, I think it's called the Streisand Effect, the more you make something forbidden (such as sex) the more people want to explore it. People might be suprsied to find out porn is actually more viewed in the red/conservative states.
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Feb 10, 2021 23:03:11 GMT
My religious upbringing wasn't as authoritarian as the JW but it was strict evangelical (the Southern Baptist Convention) but many of the things that essayist wrote applied, esp. about sex. Sex was really the only sin. #2, way down on the list, was drinking alcohol. In college (it was a Baptist College), the Vietnam War was just heating up and creating discord in the country. Still, the pastors, when they spoke to young people of ethics and proper behavior, were focused only on dancing. Yes, dancing. War and peace? What's that got to do with anything? Business ethics? Never heard of it. Racism and equal rights? What's that got to do with us? Just don't go to school dances and rub bodies together or jump around like savages. I left them during my last year at the university over their disregard, if not contempt, for anyone outside their bubble. Also because they were against rubbing bodies together. It’s kinda like Agent K in MiB: I've just been down the gullet of an interstellar cockroach. That's one of a hundred memories I don't want. OMG, I love that line of Agent K in MiB! Like mikef6, I grew up with the Southern Baptists. And yes, they were obsessed with dancing!Modern, popular music was called "jungle fertility music". Many years later, as an adult, I was able to tell my father this joke:My Dad actually laughed at that, I think he had finally loosened up a bit, but was still very much a product of his upbringing. Still telling ethnically inappropriate jokes, upset that I was spending time with a group of gay men, still a teetotaler, still afraid that I would go to Hell because I had stopped going to church (the word atheist was never spoken).
There were a lot of reasons I stopped being a believer; some I discuss, others not so much. But, looking back, like the ex JW, I saw how thoroughly religion had limited my life. I can't imagine ever going back; I can't 'un-know' scientific fact, or believe in an eternal life. As I said in another thread, my life is fact-based, not faith-based. Too many con men rely on playing the religion/trust me card, and I have fallen for it too many times. I actively distrust any business that has a Christian symbol in their advertising. There are way too many 'wolves in sheep's clothing'.
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Feb 11, 2021 0:29:09 GMT
OMG, I love that line of Agent K in MiB! Like mikef6 , I grew up with the Southern Baptists. And yes, they were obsessed with dancing!Modern, popular music was called "jungle fertility music". Many years later, as an adult, I was able to tell my father this joke:My Dad actually laughed at that, I think he had finally loosened up a bit, but was still very much a product of his upbringing. Still telling ethnically inappropriate jokes, upset that I was spending time with a group of gay men, still a teetotaler, still afraid that I would go to Hell because I had stopped going to church (the word atheist was never spoken).
There were a lot of reasons I stopped being a believer; some I discuss, others not so much. But, looking back, like the ex JW, I saw how thoroughly religion had limited my life. I can't imagine ever going back; I can't 'un-know' scientific fact, or believe in an eternal life. As I said in another thread, my life is fact-based, not faith-based. Too many con men rely on playing the religion/trust me card, and I have fallen for it too many times. I actively distrust any business that has a Christian symbol in their advertising. There are way too many 'wolves in sheep's clothing'.Question: How many Southern Baptist’s do you take fishing? Answer: at least two. But why at least two? If you take only one Southern Baptist fishing, he’ll drink up all your beer. But if you take two, neither one will touch it. LOL! Good one, hadn't heard that one yet! Years after I was grown and had moved out, I was telling my father about a new friend I had. He asked what she did for a living, I said she was a dance instructor. My Dad said, "Well, you can finally take those ballet lessons you so wanted as a kid." I told him I already was. He said, in mock disbelief, "Behind my back?!" I was, oh, 35 at the time. He actually attended my recital, but during a jazz number, mumbled to my mother about all the 'suggestive moves' being made!
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Feb 11, 2021 1:08:51 GMT
My religious upbringing wasn't as authoritarian as the JW but it was strict evangelical (the Southern Baptist Convention) but many of the things that essayist wrote applied, esp. about sex. Sex was really the only sin. #2, way down on the list, was drinking alcohol. In college (it was a Baptist College), the Vietnam War was just heating up and creating discord in the country. Still, the pastors, when they spoke to young people of ethics and proper behavior, were focused only on dancing. Yes, dancing. War and peace? What's that got to do with anything? Business ethics? Never heard of it. Racism and equal rights? What's that got to do with us? Just don't go to school dances and rub bodies together or jump around like savages. I left them during my last year at the university over their disregard, if not contempt, for anyone outside their bubble. Also because they were against rubbing bodies together. Fortunately, my Father was too "frugal" to pay for a Baptist college (Baylor University) and I ended up at my State College, the University of Kansas. Which, at the time, was known for being the third largest per capita alcohol consumption college in the US. My boyfriend was one of the heaviest drinkers, chugging pitchers of beer. I met, with him in bars, all sorts of diverse students, different races, religions, gender identities, et al. One guy dressed like a Viking, and wore no underwear. This was back in the 70's. Another guy dressed like Count Dracula and liked to act like he was biting girls' necks. The University actually hired him to publicize a blood drive on campus; he dressed the part and walked around on campus, getting girls to play along with him. He was well-known to most students, especially the ladies! And I learned how to tell NONE OF IT to my parents. I had a whole different life that they knew nothing about, and still don't, to this day. 
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Post by moviemouth on Feb 11, 2021 21:21:27 GMT
That'll happen.
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Post by politicidal on Feb 12, 2021 16:01:24 GMT
Definite potential for a mini-series like The Queen's Gambit. It would bring the viewer into two different worlds (growing up JW and then bondage modeling) they're probably unacquainted with. Hopefully streaming soon on Netflix. Wouldn’t surprise me. |
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Post by Prime etc. on Feb 12, 2021 18:53:03 GMT
That was a funny Simpsons where those JWs were thinking "do you think maybe people resent us for wanting to change their religion?"
"Yeah you're right. Let's get real jobs.."
The best religion revenge story though was that guy raised a Mormon who went so nuts he started to forge Mormon documents and then claimed he had proof that the religion was founded by the Devil (who appeared as a white salamander).
I know someone whose family was Mormon and the older brother became a missionary and then one day he just said-I dont believe in this-and he started drinking and dropped the whole thing. Actually he is a celebrity.
Tal Bachman. A singer. Son of Randy Bachman--who took the mormon wife thing to heart--he had 3 mistresses. The things you can learn when you know the black sheep of a family and they are very chatty about these things.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Feb 14, 2021 17:09:39 GMT
This is actually more common that people might think, I think it's called the Streisand Effect, the more you make something forbidden (such as sex) the more people want to explore it. People might be suprsied to find out porn is actually more viewed in the red/conservative states. Streisand Effect is a specific iteration of a psychological effect called reactance. Not only is porn more popular in conservative states, but certain kinds of porn--especially interracial porn--is almost exclusively popular in conservative states where some still see it as taboo.
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