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Post by kolchak92 on Feb 9, 2021 13:03:55 GMT
What do you think of it?
I think I like it better than a lot of people do, despite its problems. If nothing else, I think it's certainly among the best looking of the Star Trek films, thanks to John A. Alonzo.
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Post by Spike Del Rey on Feb 9, 2021 13:43:27 GMT
It was pretty good, a nice transition between the two crews. I was never a big Trek junkie, saw the movies and enjoyed them for what they were but never watched any of the TV shows.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2021 14:22:43 GMT
Better than people give it credit.
It was supposed to be this epic clash of the OG Trek and NG Trek.
And people got their hopes up and were disappointed.
Now, in retrospect, it’s a solid film .
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Post by kolchak92 on Feb 9, 2021 14:34:03 GMT
Better than people give it credit. It was supposed to be this epic clash of the OG Trek and NG Trek. And people got their hopes up and were disappointed. Now, in retrospect, it’s a solid film . Yep, I think the trailer really mislead people in that regard.
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Post by wmcclain on Feb 9, 2021 14:36:34 GMT
Star Trek: Generations (1994), directed by David Carson. I get it: bring out the old guard one last time to ease the new TV crew into theatrical films. And I think they have been clever in handling the old dogs: in the story they are in retirement and find it funny to be brought back into action, just as the audience might. It is a shared joke, disarming criticism. And killing Kirk? Twice? Fine: he has to go out heroically. How could it be otherwise? And yet, why does the story seem so small, so second rate? Malcolm McDowell is adequate as the villain, those raging demons behind his eyes. All characters present get a little time and do nothing really off base... Do we believe Picard's heaven is a Dickensian Christmas? Ok, maybe it is about the family he never had. And Kirk's is frying eggs in a kind of sketchy mountain cabin? No way, I don't believe it. This is a weak setup to the disastrous climax. Killing Kirk turns out to be pointless running, punching, falling, making quips on a cheap location set. His dying words... better be special... "It was fun". Oh, brother. What would have satisfied people? Probably nothing less than Kirk, last survivor of the Enterprise, riding his starship into a cataclysmic collision with his enemy. Much like his dad in the Star Trek (2009) reboot, in fact. On the plus side, John A. Alonzo ( Harold and Maude (1971), Vanishing Point (1971), Chinatown (1974)) is the cinematographer and does his own lighting, a big step up in quality. I've never seen those sorts of shadows in the spaceships before. Checking off a bunch of Trek features: - Romulans and Klingons. Bye Lursa and B'Etor.
- Holodeck. Why do they need a separate Stellar Cartography room?
- Data gone wacky.
- Time travel to save the day.
- Crashing the Enterprise yet again. Twice.
I won't gripe about plot holes and incoherence, but have to mention one bit of SF stupidity that kills me. Soran collapses a star (twice, we do everything twice this time) to alter the course of the Nexus. Which wouldn't work: the star's gravity is still there, collapsed or not. You could turn it into a black hole and it wouldn't have made a difference. A thirteen year old could have explained this to them. Available on Blu-ray with two commentary tracks: - An inconsequential chat between the director and an unconnected producer.
- A livelier, more honest and self-critical conversation between the writers, Ronald D. Moore and Brannon Braga.
The writers admit the weak parts of their story. They have no idea of what the Nexus is or how it works, so don't expect it to make sense. They describe Picard's scene with his dream children as "sickenly sweet". They also apologize for the ad hoc physics and engineering overload that came on strong in the Next Generation era. When writing they would just have something like: They would then hand this to their "science" advisor who would come back with possible "tech" word substitutions. They were writing this and "All Good Things...", the feature-length finale to Star Trek: The Next Generation, at the same time. You can see the similarities. And Brent Spiner hates cats. 
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Post by ck100 on Feb 9, 2021 15:04:24 GMT
Middle of the road Trek movie.
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Post by Catman 猫的主人 on Feb 9, 2021 15:33:30 GMT
Why oh why did Geordi let the teddy bear die?
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Post by Downey on Feb 9, 2021 15:39:43 GMT
Malcolm McDowell looked fantastic as a Star Trek villain but thinking the death of Captain James Kirk's death was a good idea is retarded.
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Post by Mulder and Scully on Feb 9, 2021 16:02:06 GMT
Star Trek and Star Wars are like two peas in a pod. More childish crap I never liked.
*yawn*
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Post by kolchak92 on Feb 9, 2021 16:23:20 GMT
Star Trek and Star Wars are like two peas in a pod. More childish crap I never liked. *yawn* “Childish crap” sums up your posts pretty well I think.
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Post by Downey on Feb 9, 2021 16:30:55 GMT
Star Trek and Star Wars are like two peas in a pod. More childish crap I never liked. *yawn* Cobra Kai and dude where's my car aren't sophisticated either and are childish crap too moron.
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Post by Downey on Feb 9, 2021 16:34:08 GMT
Star Trek and Star Wars are like two peas in a pod. More childish crap I never liked. *yawn* “Childish crap” sums up your posts pretty well I think. Star Trek should have a giant lizard fight a giant gorilla on an alien planet then jackie moron would like it.
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Post by Mulder and Scully on Feb 9, 2021 17:28:42 GMT
Star Trek and Star Wars are like two peas in a pod. More childish crap I never liked. *yawn* Cobra Kai and dude where's my car aren't sophisticated either and are childish crap too moron. I never said Cobra Kai and Dude, Where's My Car? were sophisticated. It still doesn't make Star Trek any less childish crap, you moron. My opinion still stands.
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Post by Mulder and Scully on Feb 9, 2021 17:31:59 GMT
“Childish crap” sums up your posts pretty well I think. Star Trek should have a giant lizard fight a giant gorilla on an alien planet then jackie moron would like it. It's still going to be better than Star Trek garbage, you moron.
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Post by Mulder and Scully on Feb 9, 2021 17:33:27 GMT
Star Trek and Star Wars are like two peas in a pod. More childish crap I never liked. *yawn* “Childish crap” sums up your posts pretty well I think. 
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Post by ck100 on Feb 9, 2021 17:44:38 GMT
OK, that's enough. Let's not fight.
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Post by Downey on Feb 9, 2021 17:50:02 GMT
Star Trek should have a giant lizard fight a giant gorilla on an alien planet then jackie moron would like it. It's still going to be better than Star Trek garbage, you moron. No it wouldn't be Jackie moron. And let's not forget a little girl that can communicate with giant gorillas oh so grown up.
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Post by Mulder and Scully on Feb 9, 2021 18:02:42 GMT
It's still going to be better than Star Trek garbage, you moron. No it wouldn't be Jackie moron. And let's not forget a little girl that can communicate with giant gorillas oh so grown up. 
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Post by Prime etc. on Feb 9, 2021 18:12:10 GMT
Killing Kirk was terrible. And how they did it.
They should have put Shatner into the Star Trek 9 movie so he and Nimoy had one final appearance together. I would have seen it if they had.
This is way more satisfying for a Kirk final appearance:
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Post by onethreetwo on Feb 9, 2021 18:14:56 GMT
Brilliant cinematography.
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