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Post by lune7000 on Feb 9, 2021 17:11:26 GMT
I have only started to watch classic films the last 3 months. I am a 61 yrs old male and just didn't watch much cinema most of my life. The last 4 years I really discovered movies and watched quite a few releases from the last 2 decades.
My path to classic movies is a strange one. I traveled the US and world for many years and, even though I saw great variety, began to realize that there was a strong overall sameness everywhere. I taught history for many years and wondered what it would be like to live in an earlier age. As I aged, the time I grew up (the 60's) seemed more and more like an alien existence from how people live today. Slowly I developed the fantasy of sitting in a time machine (like Rod Taylor) and exploring the 1920's, 50's etc. I watched a lot of documentaries about the past- but these had the sameness of people with today's views commenting on earlier times. I actually wanted to hear from the people of those times themselves.
This is where classic movies came in. I had a lot of time to kill due to lockdowns and ordered some classic films from my library. I was stunned as I watched them; it was the past as interpreted not by moderns but by the people of the time period. I would stop the movie and just stare at streets, cars, clothing, etc. while fantasizing myself being there. Most importantly, I felt I was going to another country, an America so far removed from today that it is an entirely alien land. The style of speech, manners, values, direction of movie, etc. all felt foreign an interesting. Since I can never go back in time, this will be the closest I will get.
Finally, I ran into really great movies that moved me emotionally and I realized that many of the types of stories these movies told would never make it to screen today. As whole new world of plotlines and views stimulated my imagination, I came to realize that I was running from the sameness of today's films. Each age has its blinders that limit what subjects are covered and how. I now had eight more decades of different thinking to enjoy. I love all cinema now- today and the past. I just didn't realize how much the past had to offer.
Is my story unique? Is this how anyone else got here? Or were you always into classic movies?
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Post by mikef6 on Feb 9, 2021 17:40:25 GMT
Well you, like me, were born when some of the movies we now call "classics" were new. My story is one I had told several times, how early in life I saw some film noir mysteries (1945s And Then There Were None, 1950s D.O.A.) which set my movie watching and reading preferences for life. When cable TV became a Thing and the premium movie channels were invented I watched anything and everything they showed even the cheapest and cheesiest Made For Cable Fast Food Film. Slowly, though, I kept coming back to my roots in the movies of the '30s, '40s and '50s that my parents watched whenever they were shown (in the early days of TV broadcasting local stations were often stuck for material to fill up space on their schedule, especially daytime hours, so often turned to older movies). and then the films of the 1960s that I grew up on. That is mostly what I watch now with occasional dips into the '70s and later as the spirit moves me.
Welcome to classic film. Be sure to check out the weekly thread (starting every Saturday) What Classics Did You See Last Week for great recommendations on classic, modern, and foreign language films.
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Post by TheOriginalPinky on Feb 9, 2021 20:32:28 GMT
I'll be 68 in June, and grew up watching movies and going to movies. My mother loved the movies. There were morning movie shows, and afternoon movie shows, and night of the week movie shows that showed classic movies. Some were relatively "new" on major networks. But I loved the old black and whites and the old golden Hollywood age of film.
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Post by marshamae on Feb 9, 2021 20:49:36 GMT
Thatβs my story too Pinky. I am an old, with a complicated mom and a colicky tummy. I was a child who was difficult to watch but mom discovered that going to the movies kept me quiet for two hours, and gave her some much needed relief from daily life. She loved the movies and we went at least twice a week to a downtown theater. The first one I remember is Disneyβs Peter Pan which completely captivated me. Another is the Wizard of Oz when I was three or four. We came in late and TGE witch was throwing a ball of fire. I was terrified but enthralled. I followed up with the old movies on TV and cemented my love for classics at college film series. I finally found living in Paris in the 70βs a chance to revel in classic films. The city was filled with repertoire Theaters that showed classic programs , 5 different films a day. I had a wonderful time seeing old classics in a big screen in a theater where you could smoke, and eat chocolate covered Grand Marnier Eskimo pies.
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Post by marianne48 on Feb 9, 2021 21:26:01 GMT
My older siblings used to watch movies all the time on (pre-cable)TV, and I used to watch along with them. I remember watching Hitchcock's The Birds for the first time when I was about five, when it premiered on NBC's Night at the Movies, and being enthralled by it. Yeah, they showed that scene with the guy with his eyes pecked out--was I traumatized by that? No, because I was used to seeing footage of the Vietnam War on the nightly news every night.
The stations back then used to "present" movies as part of a program, so it seemed like a special event to watch a movie on TV. One local station aired "The Million Dollar Movie," a daily movie slot which showed the same movie every day for an entire week; you could watch the same movie over and over and pick up on its nuances, so it was kind of like a do-it-yourself film study course. Another station had a "Foreign Film Festival" on weekends; another had "The 4:30 Movie," which featured theme weeks (beach movies, Biblical movies, Martin and Lewis movies, Middle-aged actress horror movies, etc.). The PBS station had a program hosted by Lillian Gish which featured silent classics; a UHF station had a Charlie Chaplin film festival every Friday night. Other local stations had "Creature Features," "Chiller Theater," and a "Dr. Shock" show, all featuring horror and monster movies; the last had a vampirish host presenting the movies, like today's "Svengoolie" character on MeTV. Daytime TV included a guy named Joe Franklin, a hardcore nostalgia fan with a local TV show who often showed old comedy shorts such as Ben Turpin silents, Laurel and Hardy shorts, and some even more obscure comedy team shorts (Clark and McCullough, anyone?). Another daytime kiddie show presented Our Gang shorts from the 1930s. Then there were the "Late Show" programs on local stations. Often they had theme weeks, too, such as Marx Brothers week, and James Cagney week, which resulted in my lifelong crush on Mr. Cagney. I think there was a greater variety of movies back then, with only twelve channels, than there are today in the cable era. For a kid who didn't get to go to the movies very often, this was a lot of fun (if not more). As a latchkey kid with both parents working, I learned to love watching these movies when I was alone in the house; they were more enjoyable than most of the TV shows of the time. That's still true today; I rarely watch TV shows and prefer classic movies instead.
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Post by TheOriginalPinky on Feb 9, 2021 21:28:45 GMT
My older siblings used to watch movies all the time on (pre-cable)TV, and I used to watch along with them. I remember watching Hitchcock's The Birds for the first time when I was about five, when it premiered on NBC's Night at the Movies, and being enthralled by it. Yeah, they showed that scene with the guy with his eyes pecked out--was I traumatized by that? No, because I was used to seeing footage of the Vietnam War on the nightly news every night. The stations back then used to "present" movies as part of a program, so it seemed like a special event to watch a movie on TV. One local station aired "The Million Dollar Movie," a daily movie slot which showed the same movie every day for an entire week; you could watch the same movie over and over and pick up on its nuances, so it was kind of like a do-it-yourself film study course. Another station had a "Foreign Film Festival" on weekends; another had "The 4:30 Movie," which featured theme weeks (beach movies, Biblical movies, Martin and Lewis movies, Middle-aged actress horror movies, etc.). The PBS station had a program hosted by Lillian Gish which featured silent classics; a UHF station had a Charlie Chaplin film festival every Friday night. Other local stations had "Creature Features," "Chiller Theater," and a "Dr. Shock" show, all featuring horror and monster movies; the last had a vampirish host presenting the movies, like today's "Svengoolie" character on MeTV. Then there were the "Late Show" programs on local stations. For a kid who didn't get to go to the movies very often, this was a lot of fun (if not more). As a latchkey kid with both parents working, I learned to love watching these movies when I was alone in the house; they were more enjoyable than most of the TV shows of the time. That's still true today; I rarely watch TV shows and prefer a classic movie instead. OMG, you're my long-long twin!!!  Sounds like me as well!
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Post by politicidal on Feb 9, 2021 22:13:38 GMT
Watching the older live action Disney films from way back and Universal monster movies from the 1930s and '40s on VHS tapes probably helped me get used to films from that era.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Feb 10, 2021 0:18:34 GMT
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Post by kijii on Feb 10, 2021 5:19:28 GMT
My mom loved to take part in competitive sports. As a kid, I remember her loving to golf, bowl, play bridge, and watch baseball games. She was also a fan of those Spenser Tracy / Katherine Hepburn movies from the late 40s and early 50s: Adam's Rib (1949) and Pat and Mike (1952). Then, there was that baseball movie, The Pride of St. Louis (1952) with Dan Dailey. My dad took my mom to a movie on one of their first dates in 1934. I don't know what that movie was but my dad liked Wallace Beery. My mom didn't like Beery but my dad did, so........it had to be a Wallace Beery movie from 1934.
There were always movies in my life, but one of the first movies I remember being advertised on TV was The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms (1953), and we kids HAD to go see that one!! Ah, advertising and kids....
The first movie I saw over and over (in a theater) was Days of Wine and Roses (1962). This movie is important to my movie watching since, from it, I learned the value of seeing a movie more than one time.
In the 50s 60s, and 70s, movies only played on TV late at night and on Saturday afternoons. Since there was no way to record movies in those days, I learned to use the TV Guide to mark the movies. I then planned to see a movie that was programed. (You had to be there to see it because there was no other way, then).
When I was about 16 (1959), I started to use the World Almanac to find which Movies, Actors and Actresses HAD won Oscars (in the past). Oscar winners were listed there, and I started to "collect" the viewing of as many as I could find and check them off in the Almanac as I saw them. Some movies played several times and were easy to "collect." Others were not so easy to find. I really valued those that were "hard to find." This is how I first became interested in classic movies from the past.
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Post by kijii on Feb 10, 2021 5:36:41 GMT
Good point Lune7000
I often see movies in there historical context too. It is like going back to that time and seeing what they were interested in, how they talked, and what clothing they wore... Notice how men always wore suits, even in their own homes.. That's hard to imagine today but how it was at the time the movie was made.
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Post by lune7000 on Feb 10, 2021 15:48:53 GMT
The first movie I saw over and over (in a theater) was Days of Wine and Roses (1962). This movie is important to my movie watching since, from it, I learned the value of seeing a movie more than one time. thanks to all for the replies- it would appear that I am the only one here who hasn't been watching classics for some time. From the quote above, may I ask what exactly is the value of seeing a movie more than one time (other than enjoyment)?
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Post by TheOriginalPinky on Feb 10, 2021 15:56:47 GMT
The first movie I saw over and over (in a theater) was Days of Wine and Roses (1962). This movie is important to my movie watching since, from it, I learned the value of seeing a movie more than one time. thanks to all for the replies- it would appear that I am the only one here who hasn't been watching classics for some time. From the quote above, may I ask what exactly is the value of seeing a movie more than one time (other than enjoyment)? For me, several things. For the pure enjoyment of something you like. Seeing other elements that you may have missed. And quoting dialog verbatim.
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Post by divtal on Feb 11, 2021 19:51:02 GMT
I'm from the leading edge of the Baby Boom. I, too, was influenced by the combination of early television stations having large libraries of "old" films, and parents who enjoyed seeing some of their favorite films in the comfort of home.
Friday and Saturday nights, when we had a little leniency about bedtime, were the nights that local stations ... which used to sign-off overnight ... stayed on a little later, and those movies were a convenient and cost-saving programming selection.
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Post by marshamae on Feb 11, 2021 22:00:09 GMT
Seeing films more than 9nce is, to my mind , a must for any serious attention to details. I can watch films I like many times over. I get that lots of people do not enjoy 30-40 viewings of a film. But only one look does not allow me to capture fine points. Even in a b picture , there are often especially good performances, or a rare glimpse of a special performer that merit a second look.
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Post by bess1971s on Feb 13, 2021 14:18:31 GMT
My family also used to watch The Million Dollar Movie. We only had one tv and my father usually decided what we were going to see .He always named the stars so even while young I began to recognize the big names. Later I watched these movies simply because they were entertaining and it became one of the few things my father and I had in common. For his birthday and Christmas, I always bought him books on classic films and he treasured them to the point that he wore them out and had to be replaced. I still have a few.
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Post by teleadm on Feb 13, 2021 16:57:56 GMT
Among my mother's belongings I recently found an album were she cut out pictures and glued them in sometime in the 1930's, I remember having seen it a few times as a kid and wondered who all those people were, and she mentioned that they were from movies she had seen. I forgot about that album for many years, but I guess that is when the seed was planted. Filled with named like Deanna Durbin, Judy Garland, Leslie Howard, Adolf Jahr, Ginger Rogers and above all the man among men Clark Gable. Maybe she too was once pushed by a grand Aunt, who was around when Rudolph Valentino was alive, she was also the one that specifically wanted me to inherit her old 1920's Movie magazine's she collected, because I "know what to do with them". They certainly are invaluable documents written in the 1920's.
Unlike others who have answered here, in Sweden we didn't have much television in the 1950's, unlike nowdays when they show all kind of crap on many channels.
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Post by vegalyra on Feb 13, 2021 17:41:40 GMT
I've been interested in classic film for a long time. My Dad would regularly watch WW2 films in particular when they'd come on (his Dad was a Marine during the war) and I'd watch them too. So most of my early exposure to classic film were films like Destination Tokyo, Sands of Iwo Jima, Gung Ho, Flying Leathernecks, etc. I think for awhile the only reason we had cable was back when AMC actually showed classic films without commercials and later on TCM. I'd also catch the movies on regular TV as well in the early '80s although many of the films that I would see on there weren't really that old (hard to believe but Omega Man, one of my favorite Heston films, was probably only about 9 or 10 years old when I saw it on TV). Before we had cable in the early 1980s we had about 3 network stations and 2 or 3 UHF stations that we could pick up. The UHF stations in particular would show old Westerns or detective films (what I called Film Noir since i had no idea of that term back when i was a kid). I caught a lot of the great ones and also a bunch that even my Dad didn't remember so it was fun watching them together.
My grandparents had a book that had all of the silent screen stars and films that I would always look at when I visited their home. Those would rarely be shown on TV so it offered me a glimpse of what those films were about and who the actors were. It wasn't until much later that I was able to see some of these films (outside of Chaplin and Keaton films).
The one aspect of classic film that I really only recently started viewing (recent being a comparative term, probably the past 10 years) is foreign language films from the 1930's to 1970's, mostly French and Italian. It really is like visiting another place and time and it allows me to time travel as well as visit places I've never been to and never will, for example, 1950's Rome or 1960's Paris.
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Post by bravomailer on Feb 14, 2021 6:28:34 GMT
Well, I was sipping a soda at Schwab's Pharmacy when.....
But seriously, folks. Back in the 60s, TV showed older movies. NBC had Saturday Night At The Movies which I looked forward to all week. Also, many stations showed older movies after midnight - The Late Show, The Late Late Show, and for horror there was Shock Theater. Some stations went with The Early Show which began ca 4pm.
Classics I recall seeing on TV
Saturday Night At The Movies: Titanic (1953)
The Late Show: Psycho, Fail Safe
The Early Show: Bataan, The Hunchback of Notre Dame
Shock Theater: Dracula, The Wolf Man, Frankenstein
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Post by Prime etc. on Feb 14, 2021 8:00:27 GMT
My mother introduced me to it most probably--because she bought me books on monster movies at a young age and encouraged reading and curiosity. I think Humphrey Bogart came on my radar because he was mentioned as doing a horror movie (Return of Dr. X) which I did not see until 10 years ago. Also cartoons of course. Warner Bros. since they had all the movie references. "Pardon me, can you help out a fellow American who is down on his luck?" They had various movie programs showing older stuff--in the 70s and 80s you could still see lots of much older movies shown when there were fewer channels. Little Rascals and other things... And there were more programs that talked about old movies--anniversaries etc.. And the Oscars. Many of the people were still around.
I didnt know who Ann Sheridan was until recently.
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Post by Lebowskidoo ππ·π on Feb 14, 2021 15:23:32 GMT
I can remember Star Trek was always on TV every Saturday morning as a kid, and then right after, a classic movie was always shown. God knows what classics I completely ignored in the background while I played with my toys. I only ever really remember taking notice around 1976 when the King Kong remake came out and that station showed the original movie. Then, I sat transfixed for the entire movie.
Later, I became a genuine movie hound, but still thought of old black and white movies as boring. I think this was not actually my opinion, simply something my mother would say. She hated anything not in color. Still does. It wasn't until I began reading up on movies and their origins that I became more interested. Also, seeing newer movies set during the early days of Hollywood made me grow more interested.
Then came TCM and this film board, where the love of the classics is infectious. Now, I'm happy to say I've seriously dipped my toes into the classics, with many more still to discover. Some of them are so good, it's scary to think I might have missed out.
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