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Post by lenlenlen1 on Feb 12, 2021 17:56:40 GMT
Gina Carano: "I am sending out a direct message of hope to everyone living in fear of cancellation by the totalitarian mob. I have only just begun using my voice which is now freer than ever before, and I hope it inspires others to do the same. They can’t cancel us if we don’t let them."
Daily Wire: "We could not be more excited to be working with Gina Carano, an incredible talent dumped by Disney and Lucasfilm for offending the authoritarian Hollywood Left. This is what Daily Wire exists to do: provide an alternative not just for consumers, but for creators who refuse to bow to the mob," Shapiro says. "We’re eager to bring Gina’s talent to Americans who love her, and we’re just as eager to show Hollywood that if they want to keep cancelling those who think differently, they’ll just be helping us build the X-Wing to take down their Death Star."
I LOVE Gina Carano. However, here's the problem... Some of what she said is pretty reprehensible. Does she just get to get away with that?
It turns out she's got a big mouth. Its her big mouth that got her in trouble. If you're an anti-Semite and you work for Jews, then shut the fuck up, keep that shit to yourself, and cash the check. Its the least you can do to practice some self-preservation. She didn't think this through before she started posting dumb crap. Now she's out of a great job (that could have led to her own spinoff) and looks like an ass.
Gina... shut up. You're only hurting YOURSELF.
P.S. What they call cancel culture I call being a decent human being who don't talk shit about other people just because they're different than us. Its called tolerance. Maybe Gina and Daily Wire should try it.
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Post by SuperDevilDoctor on Feb 12, 2021 18:04:56 GMT
P.S. What they call cancel culture I call being a decent human being who don't talk shit about other people just because they're different than us. Its called tolerance. Maybe Gina and Daily Wire should try it. What they call "cancel culture" was invented, activated and weaponized by right-wing conservatives. Just ask the Dixie Chicks (2003). Just ask Colin Kaepernick.
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Post by darkpast on Feb 12, 2021 18:06:28 GMT
Most people in Hollywood are horrible on both sides
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Post by papamihel on Feb 12, 2021 18:58:20 GMT
And? Freedom of speech means people are allowed to say things others might find contrary or even offensive. That's how real democracies work. You say one thing, I say another thing. In the end we either find a common ground or just go our separate ways. Worst case, we avoid one another.
Having a different opinion must not be a reason to be persecuted or have your career ruined.
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Post by Jan El Señor on Feb 12, 2021 19:12:46 GMT
How is she getting away with anything? She was fired froma high profile gig.
She made an analogy. She didn't denigrate anyone.
99% of what she's accused of has been projected onto her. The thing she was fired for never even happened. If anything, that tweet was a call for unity.
Yeah, she poked the bear, and gave them ammo to fire her. But, at the end of the day, she didn't do what they said she did.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Feb 12, 2021 19:29:04 GMT
And? Freedom of speech means people are allowed to say things others might find contrary or even offensive. That's how real democracies work. You say one thing, I say another thing. In the end we either find a common ground or just go our separate ways. Worst case, we avoid one another. Having a different opinion must not be a reason to be persecuted or have your career ruined. I already brought this up on the politics board, but while I disagree with Carano getting fired, it has nothing to do with free speech. Freedom of speech means that you can’t get arrested for what you say. It doesn’t mean that private companies can’t fire you.
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Post by Prime etc. on Feb 12, 2021 19:37:32 GMT
What they call "cancel culture" was invented, activated and weaponized by right-wing conservatives. Just ask the Dixie Chicks (2003). Just ask Colin Kaepernick. That's BS.
One of the earliest cancel culture people was that orange juice saleswoman who hated homosexuality. Do you think the right-wing cancelled her?
The Dixie Chicks critiqued Bush and no one liked Bush. They were cancelled by the corporations that love Bush-and those same corporations love Biden.
Ted Nugent threatened Obama and Clinton and he wasn't cancelled because a)he wasn't mainstream influential like the Dixie Chicks and b) they like him because he made midwesterners look insane.
How is Kaepernick doing compared to the Dixie Chicks?
What's Jon Voight up to since he endorsed Trump?
Anyway anyone who disagrees with Carano should challenge her to arm wrestling or boxing. It worked for Uwe Boll.
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Post by Skaathar on Feb 12, 2021 19:41:52 GMT
Gina Carano: "I am sending out a direct message of hope to everyone living in fear of cancellation by the totalitarian mob. I have only just begun using my voice which is now freer than ever before, and I hope it inspires others to do the same. They can’t cancel us if we don’t let them."
Daily Wire: "We could not be more excited to be working with Gina Carano, an incredible talent dumped by Disney and Lucasfilm for offending the authoritarian Hollywood Left. This is what Daily Wire exists to do: provide an alternative not just for consumers, but for creators who refuse to bow to the mob," Shapiro says. "We’re eager to bring Gina’s talent to Americans who love her, and we’re just as eager to show Hollywood that if they want to keep cancelling those who think differently, they’ll just be helping us build the X-Wing to take down their Death Star." I LOVE Gina Carano. However, here's the problem... Some of what she said is pretty reprehensible. Does she just get to get away with that? It turns out she's got a big mouth. Its her big mouth that got her in trouble. If you're an anti-Semite and you work for Jews, then shut the fuck up, keep that shit to yourself, and cash the check. Its the least you can do to practice some self-preservation. She didn't think this through before she started posting dumb crap. Now she's out of a great job (that could have led to her own spinoff) and looks like an ass. Gina... shut up. You're only hurting YOURSELF. P.S. What they call cancel culture I call being a decent human being who don't talk shit about other people just because they're different than us. Its called tolerance. Maybe Gina and Daily Wire should try it. I don't agree with everything Carano says, but what exactly did she say that you find so reprehensible? I don't recall her saying anything that was actually anti-semite.
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Post by Jan El Señor on Feb 12, 2021 22:53:56 GMT
I don't agree with everything Carano says, but what exactly did she say that you find so reprehensible? I don't recall her saying anything that was actually anti-semite. She said nothing anti-Semetic. At worst, she re-posted a poorly presented analogy. But the intent of her post is clear to anyone who isn't being obstinate.
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Post by jammer81386 on Feb 12, 2021 23:08:01 GMT
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Post by shinnickneth on Feb 13, 2021 3:12:25 GMT
How is she getting away with anything? She was fired froma high profile gig. She made an analogy. She didn't denigrate anyone. 99% of what she's accused of has been projected onto her. The thing she was fired for never even happened. If anything, that tweet was a call for unity. Yeah, she poked the bear, and gave them ammo to fire her. But, at the end of the day, she didn't do what they said she did. Firing her from her job doesn't even make sense. She isn't on Curb Your Enthusiasm. She isn't playing herself or expressing her own opinions. She's playing a fictional character, saying words someone else wrote. If anything she should have compared the present frenzy to cancel people to the Salem Witch Trials. It's much better analogy. I mean really...a bunch of people just wanting to bring others down because they're jealous of others' success or have an axe to grind because they don't agree with other person. They hide it under the disguise of societal betterment, but that's just lies.
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Post by hi224 on Feb 13, 2021 4:01:39 GMT
And? Freedom of speech means people are allowed to say things others might find contrary or even offensive. That's how real democracies work. You say one thing, I say another thing. In the end we either find a common ground or just go our separate ways. Worst case, we avoid one another. Having a different opinion must not be a reason to be persecuted or have your career ruined. well when your employed by Disney you bite your bullet as well.
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Post by papamihel on Feb 13, 2021 5:24:24 GMT
And? Freedom of speech means people are allowed to say things others might find contrary or even offensive. That's how real democracies work. You say one thing, I say another thing. In the end we either find a common ground or just go our separate ways. Worst case, we avoid one another. Having a different opinion must not be a reason to be persecuted or have your career ruined. I already brought this up on the politics board, but while I disagree with Carano getting fired, it has nothing to do with free speech. Freedom of speech means that you can’t get arrested for what you say. It doesn’t mean that private companies can’t fire you. You are technically correct but... There is also a culture of free speech which should transcend legality.
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Post by Oh My Aching Ackbar-Raddus! on Feb 13, 2021 14:39:26 GMT
What they call "cancel culture" was invented, activated and weaponized by right-wing conservatives. Just ask the Dixie Chicks (2003). Just ask Colin Kaepernick. That's BS. ] One of the earliest cancel culture people was that orange juice saleswoman who hated homosexuality. Do you think the right-wing cancelled her? The Dixie Chicks critiqued Bush and no one liked Bush.
They were cancelled by the corporations that love Bush-and those same corporations love Biden.Ted Nugent threatened Obama and Clinton and he wasn't cancelled because a)he wasn't mainstream influential like the Dixie Chicks and b) they like him because he made midwesterners look insane. How is Kaepernick doing compared to the Dixie Chicks? What's Jon Voight up to since he endorsed Trump? Anyway anyone who disagrees with Carano should challenge her to arm wrestling or boxing. [/div] It worked for Uwe Boll.
[/quote] Umm... yeah. I’m going to have to refer to military intelligence on that one. That’s not the whole story. That’s not how that entirely went down. I distinctly remember when that crap happened. And there were everyday people appearing on the news throwing shade at them. They got booed at concerts. There were lots of people calling into radio stations saying they didn’t want their music played anymore because they were (quote-unquote) traitors to right wing/conservative values. And when Kaepernick did that Nike commercial and people ran out and burned up their Nikes in barbecue grills, who do you think those people were? Antifa? This is what happens when anything starts getting too politicized. First there’s the accusations. Then the finger pointing. Then the demonization of “their” side, and the whitewashing of “my” side. And the whole thing turns into two glass houses throwing boulders at each other. The truth is both sides practice cancel culture. The left might do it more, especially on social media. But both sides are guilty. This is exactly why the admiral stays in the military and out of politics. You ever notice that most politician characters in Star Wars are a$$ holes?
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Post by hobowar on Feb 14, 2021 0:17:17 GMT
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Feb 14, 2021 1:01:41 GMT
P.S. What they call cancel culture I call being a decent human being who don't talk shit about other people just because they're different than us. Its called tolerance. Maybe Gina and Daily Wire should try it. What they call "cancel culture" was invented, activated and weaponized by right-wing conservatives. Just ask the Dixie Chicks (2003). Just ask Colin Kaepernick. The Dixie Chicks still perform and Kaepernick received plenty of support and earned various sponsorships after getting 'cancelled', Carano was not only fired from Lucasfilm she was dropped by her own talent agency. Left leaning people get cancelled much less than right leaning people do.
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Post by TutuAnimationPrincess on Feb 14, 2021 1:12:23 GMT
Nobody should be fired for their political views period. Gina’s posts were nothing, the Star Wars fans lost a great character, plain and simple.
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Post by Skaathar on Feb 14, 2021 1:51:27 GMT
What they call "cancel culture" was invented, activated and weaponized by right-wing conservatives. Just ask the Dixie Chicks (2003). Just ask Colin Kaepernick. The Dixie Chicks still perform and Kaepernick received plenty of support and earned various sponsorships after getting 'cancelled', Carano was not only fired from Lucasfilm she was dropped by her own talent agency. Left leaning people get cancelled much less than right leaning people do. And to be fair, Kapernick did his protests while in a game, while officially representing his team. Carano did her protests on her own personal medium in her own personal time. I don't think either of them should have been cancelled, but I don't think it's really fair to compare the two.
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Post by Waxer-n-boil on Feb 14, 2021 3:07:33 GMT
This cancel culture stuff is getting out of hand. Again, hopefully they can bring Gina back after a season when this cools off.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Feb 16, 2021 18:23:56 GMT
And? Freedom of speech means people are allowed to say things others might find contrary or even offensive. That's how real democracies work. You say one thing, I say another thing. In the end we either find a common ground or just go our separate ways. Worst case, we avoid one another. Having a different opinion must not be a reason to be persecuted or have your career ruined. Heres the thing that people who throw out freedom of speech all the time DONT seem to understand... Yes, you have the freedom to say whatever you want. But you don't have the freedom to expect that everyone is going to like or agree with what you say, or act on what you say. There might be a law that says you can speak as you please, but there's NO law that says we're not going to say something back or act on what you said. So you have the right the say things that make you seem like an asshole, and I have the right to call you an asshole based on what you said, and fire you based on what you said if you happen to work for me. There! We all have rights! The real point here is that people need to be smart about what they're saying/posting. Right or wrong, it can come back to bite you. Especially if you talk anti-Semitic shit while working for Jews. I mean, duh. What the fuck did she honestly think was going to happen? She made her choice. She preferred to look like an anti-smite than retain a great job. Choice made.
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