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Post by novastar6 on Feb 16, 2021 5:08:17 GMT
What exactly is the difference?
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Post by novastar6 on Feb 16, 2021 6:08:05 GMT
So it's basically somebody who's not trans having sex with people who are? Because I've sure never heard of bisexuals who discriminated against trans.
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Feb 16, 2021 10:27:24 GMT
Best I can make out
Bisexual is an attraction both men and women, but they still "see" or distinguish between gender
Pansexual is an attraction to everyone without even "seeing" gender
I've also heard Omnisexual who are attracted to everyone but still see gender, not sure if the difference between them and Bi is that it includes attraction to Trans etc. and Bi doesn't
Hope I haven't offended anyone, please correct me if I'm wrong
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2021 13:23:04 GMT
Bisexual. Meaning 2 genders only. Bi
Pansexual. Meaning you fall in love with the person. Their personality. Regardless of gender.
You could fall in love with a male, female, trans, hermaphrodite, or whatever.
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Post by uncreative on Feb 16, 2021 16:55:00 GMT
Once you get past straight/gay/bi I really have no idea what any of these _____sexual labels mean and don't care. At best they're nitpicking but probably they're just doing it to bring attention to themselves and try to look smarter or more progressive than they are.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Feb 16, 2021 20:11:03 GMT
Once you get past straight/gay/bi I really have no idea what any of these _____sexual labels mean and don't care. At best they're nitpicking but probably they're just doing it to bring attention to themselves and try to look smarter or more progressive than they are. Pansexuals are especially pretentious because they act like they invented caring about a person's personality. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2021 5:01:07 GMT
So it's basically somebody who's not trans having sex with people who are? Because I've sure never heard of bisexuals who discriminated against trans. I'd say you're wrong. Kinsey said a third of all people are bisexual. Most of us expect a man to be a man and a woman to be woman. I would say most bisexuals do not want to have sex with a transgender person.
I'm bisexual. And I have been with trans people in county jail because obviously there are no women in a men's jail. But normally when I approach a woman I expect her to be a woman in bed. I don't want to be surprised by a pair of hairy balls. The same with a man. I expect him to have a penis.
We bisexuals get to experience both worlds. But most of us think the gender confusion of trans people is not terribly attractive.
Why does there need to be gender confusion? Doesn't each generation get to choose what they are whether we agree with it or not? Isn't it part of the natural progression of individuality? For as much has I hate labels and putting people in a box I get that most people want to have their voice heard. In the long run what does it really matter if it makes people struggling content? When you say "most of us" are you talking about people you know, people of your age group or all bisexuals in the whole word?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2021 11:28:20 GMT
Let me explain. I have no problem whatsoever with biological males who choose to live as women and vice versa. I lived with them for months in LA County Jail. I made some great trannie friends lol.
They segregate all the LGBT people away from the general population to avoid the obvious problem of sex in general and rape in particular. Straight males actually pretend to be gay so they can be mixed in with guys who will have sex with them. When I arrived at County I was asked my sexual preference. When I told them I was gay I was literally interrogated because they wanted to make sure I wasn't lying.
So yeah, I accept transgender people as legit. But we're talking about someone you want to have sex with. Like I said, I'm bisexual. I want a man to be 100% man below the waist and I want a woman to be 100% woman. Most bisexuals would agree with me. In the bedroom chicks with dicks and men with pussies is just sexually offputting.
And yes, the fact that pansexuality is separated from bisexuality is because most people do not want to be sexually intimate with transgender folks. I'd be surprised if most bisexuals and heterosexuals in their 20's didn't agree with me.
I kind of knew I was misreading your comments but I also knew you'd accept the questions and give a thoughtful answer. Having some great tranny friends is always a bonus! The only point I wanted to make is that with the state of the world and with social media the way it is, that people that want want to express themselves as individuals with their sexuality is only a good thing. The more that people can accept themselves as what and who they are is only a positive thing. Especially with the suicide rate being so high among these groups. If you don't mind me asking, what kind of struggles did you have growing up?
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Post by ebony on Feb 22, 2021 7:44:16 GMT
I'm bisexual but am terrible at picking up women and have limited experience with them. Lesbians don't want me because I've already been with men and that makes me "straight." I've gone through periods where I wasn't attracted to men at all, like when I identified as asexual until I was 22. In the year before I met my boyfriend I wasn't attracted to any new men I met and the best date I went on during that time was with a transwoman.
I don't identify as pansexual. Maybe because I never heard it growing up. It's a new term for kids these days.
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Post by Stammerhead on Feb 22, 2021 11:08:23 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2021 23:15:28 GMT
I agree. We should accept people for choosing any gender role, even if it doesn't match their biological sex. Judge the individual by their behavior, not the genitals.
Well I've always been happy being a male. I never had any gender confusion and most queer people don't.
My struggle growing up is the same as most homosexual and bisexual children. We know our sexuality is not accepted by society. I would hear my parents and siblings make homophobic remarks. So I was afraid if I told them they would hate me. So I spent my teenage years hiding my sexuality and sneaking around.
When I was 19 I finally came out to my family. They were shocked and disappointed. But they accepted it and loved me nonetheless.
What's your sexuality? You're not homophobic and I appreciate that. But how did you and how do you deal with those around you who are homophobic or transphobic? I'm talking about people close to you whom you care about.
I know you had your struggles and it wasn't without incident but I am happy your family accepted you. Even if it took awhile for some. I don't like making the statement because it's never easy but I do think it was much more difficult "in the old days" to come out. Back when it was "a choice". Still a lot of people with that mindset. Seems about 20 years ago is when it became more acceptable to be gay or bi. I can only hope that the same can be say for Trans people going forward. I'm straight and I'm white. I only mention my race because I think people who aren't white and are gay or trans face 10 times the discrimination. My story is a little different than some. My parents died when I was 17. I was forced to grow up rather quickly. I don't ever remember hearing anything derogatory about race or sexual preference ever in my life when I was young. I honestly never knew where my parents stood on the subject. I actually remember being shocked when I found out so many people actually hated these groups of people. This is when I was young and naive to the ways of the world. I remember feeling totally uncomfortable being around the people who kept spouting their hatred. I don't have any immediate family but do have extended family who are of certain beliefs. I've ended relationships with friends and certain family members because of their beliefs. With a few others we don't talk about it. They know not to even bring up the subject and if they do they know they will be called out. Luckily for me I have many more accepting people in my life than one's who aren't. This isn't by accident. I have no problem ending a relationship if the negative out weighs the positive.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2021 23:54:32 GMT
So far no jokes about having sex during a pandemic. People can still have sex during a pandemic? Wait.....What?  Where was Fauci with this rule? Do you need a special mask? Is there a special clean up procedure because of social distancing? Do I need a test? So many questions...
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Post by autumn on Feb 23, 2021 0:06:01 GMT
So far no jokes about having sex during a pandemic. People can still have sex during a pandemic? Wait.....What? Where was Fauci with this rule? Do you need a special mask? Is there a special clean up procedure because of social distancing? Do I need a test? So many questions... 
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Post by Stammerhead on Feb 23, 2021 0:28:37 GMT
So far no jokes about having sex during a pandemic. People can still have sex during a pandemic? Wait.....What? Where was Fauci with this rule? Do you need a special mask? Is there a special clean up procedure because of social distancing? Do I need a test? So many questions... 
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2021 0:33:17 GMT
Strangely enough I find this extremely hot.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2021 1:09:34 GMT
I'm bisexual but am terrible at picking up women and have limited experience with them. Lesbians don't want me because I've already been with men and that makes me "straight." I've gone through periods where I wasn't attracted to men at all, like when I identified as asexual until I was 22. In the year before I met my boyfriend I wasn't attracted to any new men I met and the best date I went on during that time was with a transwoman. I don't identify as pansexual. Maybe because I never heard it growing up. It's a new term for kids these days. Don't get too hung up on labels. If somebody's judging you on your past then that's not the type of person you need in your life.
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Post by Jason143 on Feb 23, 2021 11:36:42 GMT
Pansexuals as I understand it are those who will f*ck anything that breathes and walks on 2 legs.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Feb 23, 2021 15:18:49 GMT
What exactly is the difference? I'm all for people feeling good about themselves and being the best them they can be. I support it 100%. But lets not get ridiculous either. We don't need to invent new stuff to categorize things that are already there. If you're gay that's fine. Be gay. I support you. But how many different categorizations do we really need? Do you.
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Post by moviemouth on Feb 24, 2021 10:40:33 GMT
Did you just call me a big huge dork? 
Yes, "queer" describes all those who don't follow in perfect line with the heterosexist system. Homosexuals and bisexuals are all queer.
As for straight friends who know you and love you and don't like homosexuality? I suppose it's like hating religion but having religious friends.
Q can also mean questioning and queer is also considered a slur by some. Just another confounded umbrella term and if one identifies as queer, they can then claim their sexuality is not fixed as in ordinary normal. I still see that as a cop out though and attempting to pad the blow. If you were really bisexual, and you have commented before you got with a chick in high school, does that really make you bi Gamey if you haven't been interested in them over dudes since then?
Straight guys may feel uncomfortable due to their phobia of thinking a guy around them who likes f<>king other guys may be attracted to them. The ridicule and derision they project is born out of their own insecurity too. If their phobia is partly because they don't want other guys thinking of them sexually, I guess then should have the self-awareness to know how females can feel when they are drooling over them and being jerks around them. They are dorks bigger than you could ever be Gamey...  It is possible to dislike and fear and keep it to yourself. It is also possible to dislike one aspect of a person and like a bunch of other aspects of them. It is also possible to completely understand something and hate that it exists, because it makes you uncomfortable. You will just refuse to interact with whoever it is when possible. I could go in a certain direction with this, but I will refrain from causing extreme offense. I wouldn't want people to think I was making a direct comparison. Fear is an interesting and extremely complex thing and nobody is above it. Some people have less fear than others and some people are able to get past some of their fears. For some people it is impossible to get past it. Some people even feed off of their own fear and anger. I don't know why exactly, but it likely has to do with dislike of their self or their circumstances. It also has been brainwashed into most people by society and their parents. I mean if you have a father who calls you a sissy for even the slightest feminine thing, that is going to have serious effects on your mental state. This is why so many straight men are very off-put by even the slightest thing.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2021 3:05:37 GMT
You sound like you have a healthy secure attitude on the matter.
The difference with me is that I have friends who are raging homophobes. I used to do quite a bit of partying with 20-somethings who worked for me. They were mostly young Latinos with gang backgrounds. I must say even that age group is very biased against queer people. I did end up telling some of my closet gangsta friends that I was bisexual. They seemed to accept it without prejudice and we remained good buddies. But at work they still made the nasty anti-gay jokes. I really am not sure everyone under 30 is liberal on this issue. I'm not going around picking fights with everybody. You need to pick and choose your battles. Like you said you can have 2 totally opposing beliefs or views and still remain friends There needs to be some sort of mutual respect for that to happen. I just read a story that more Americans than ever identify as LBGTQ. They attribute the increase to Gen Z. 8X more people who are 18-23 identify something other than hetero, compared to people over 55. I'm sure this has everything with people being more open and honest about their sexuality. It's never going to be 100% with anything. Too many factors go into it. Upbringing being the big one.
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Where was Fauci with this rule? 
