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Post by alittlebirdie on Feb 20, 2021 0:10:49 GMT
A documentary board? Or at least sub board?
I know I could put it on Film General, or General, but it gets lost.
I gave up on an Art board and true enough not really related to film, but what about docs?
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Post by Admin on Feb 20, 2021 0:33:15 GMT
bartlesby has a pretty solid argument to take up with you.
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Post by Stammerhead on Feb 20, 2021 0:34:09 GMT
Most of the sub boards went because they weren’t being used enough so I guess there has to be enough of a demand before Admin considers putting them back. My interests in art lean towards illustration and unusual techniques so I tend to post about them on General Discussion or Soapbox just to see what happens. Sometimes people take the bait.
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Post by gw on Feb 20, 2021 0:36:06 GMT
I don't know how the people on the history board would feel about it, but if they're accepting, you could post on there.
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Post by alittlebirdie on Feb 20, 2021 0:42:44 GMT
bartlesby has a pretty solid argument to take up with you. Ok, Bartlesby, let's go 
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2021 0:48:34 GMT
bartlesby has a pretty solid argument to take up with you.  Anyway, alittlebirdie , I personally don't have a problem with it but the Admin's stated goal is to keep the forum as streamlined as possible. Since you've taken the opportunity to piggyback off of the creation of the Animation board to make your request, you're going to have to display that documentaries are as significant artistically, popularly, and distinctive enough as a medium in comparison to animation to warrant its own board.
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Post by alittlebirdie on Feb 20, 2021 0:56:29 GMT
Most of the sub boards went because they weren’t being used enough so I guess there has to be enough of a demand before Admin considers putting them back. My interests in art lean towards illustration and unusual techniques so I tend to post about them on General Discussion or Soapbox just to see what happens. Sometimes people take the bait. I see what you mean about subboards, but if wrestling can have it's own board, (which could easily be posted under sports) why not documentaries? Documentaries are an important part of film. The art subboard was actually pretty good. Not a lot of traffic, but many people draw and paint here and are interested in museums (when they reopen!) I hope you post your illustrations again, sounds great.
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Post by alittlebirdie on Feb 20, 2021 0:58:26 GMT
I don't know how the people on the history board would feel about it, but if they're accepting, you could post on there. History isn't really the same, there are a lot of current exciting docs being made.
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Post by alittlebirdie on Feb 20, 2021 1:14:25 GMT
bartlesby has a pretty solid argument to take up with you. Anyway, alittlebirdie , I personally don't have a problem with it but the Admin's stated goal is to keep the forum as streamlined as possible. Since you've taken the opportunity to piggyback off of the creation of the Animation board to make your request, you're going to have to display that documentaries are as significant artistically, popularly, and distinctive enough in comparison to animation to warrant its own board. Ok Barts  . I'll do my best, many documentaries have even been life changing, such as the one's on diet/sugar. I also saw an amazing one on Magnus Carlsen, grandmaster chess player. Recently "There are No Fakes" amazing doc from Canada. I did post about it under Film General but it went to the unchartered universe. I mean many of the boards have nothing to do with film, docs are an important part of film. Anyway, hoping you'll consider it.  Edit: At least you could give it a trail run, no traffic, off it goes
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2021 1:37:37 GMT
Anyway, alittlebirdie , I personally don't have a problem with it but the Admin's stated goal is to keep the forum as streamlined as possible. Since you've taken the opportunity to piggyback off of the creation of the Animation board to make your request, you're going to have to display that documentaries are as significant artistically, popularly, and distinctive enough in comparison to animation to warrant its own board. Ok Barts . I'll do my best, many documentaries have even been life changing, such as the one's on diet/sugar. I also saw an amazing one on Magnus Carlsen, grandmaster chess player. Recently "There are No Fakes" amazing doc from Canada. I did post about it under Film General but it went to the unchartered universe. I mean many of the boards have nothing to do with film, docs are an important part of film. Anyway, hoping you'll consider it. Oh, don't the wrong idea here, birdie. It's not actually my call to make and I do love documentaries and find them valuable. I don't want you to think I dislike them or don't consider them valid. What's happening is this: Admin has tagged me in partially because he said the creation of the Animation board would lead to more requests and that was one of his arguments against it and partially because he wants me to argue against your proposal to see if I contradict my own arguments for the Animation board's creation here so he can tut-tut me. In short, I'm being press ganged into arguing against your proposition in order to back up a past argument. He's cheeky like that. He also wants to keep things streamlined, as I said, so you need a persuasive argument. There are plenty of great documentaries, absolutely, but that's not a strong opening argument for creating a board. There are plenty of great pairs of crocheted mittens, too, but I doubt the Needlework forum will ever take off. Furthermore, when it comes to documentaries, many times you can find an existing forum among the ones which have nothing to do with film where it will receive more interest due to the extant community there than it would as its own board. Sports fans would be interested in a documentary on sports, Politics on virtually anything sociological or historical, Religion for religious documentaries, True Crime for crime documentaries, History for even more history documentaries, Music for music documentaries, and so on and so forth. Documentaries have far more leeway to be brought up in these communities because documentaries themselves, while artful in their own way, are coverage and examinations of existing mediums, humanity, science, and nature, etc. A documentary cannot exist for the sake of being a documentary like a movie or a song can; it is dependent on having an existing subject. Most likely, boards already exist for the majority of those subjects. You will need to prove that they are a massive medium in their own right along the same lines as Animation. If you can do that against me, he might just give you the board.
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Post by alittlebirdie on Feb 20, 2021 1:59:35 GMT
Ok Barts . I'll do my best, many documentaries have even been life changing, such as the one's on diet/sugar. I also saw an amazing one on Magnus Carlsen, grandmaster chess player. Recently "There are No Fakes" amazing doc from Canada. I did post about it under Film General but it went to the unchartered universe. I mean many of the boards have nothing to do with film, docs are an important part of film. Anyway, hoping you'll consider it. Oh, don't the wrong idea here, birdie. It's not actually my call to make and I do love documentaries and find them valuable. I don't want you to think I dislike them or don't consider them valid. What's happening is this: Admin has tagged me in partially because he said the creation of the Animation board would lead to more requests and that was one of his arguments against it and partially because he wants me to argue against your proposal to see if I contradict my own arguments for the Animation board's creation here so he can tut-tut me. In short, I'm being press ganged into arguing against your proposition in order to back up a past argument. He's cheeky like that. He also wants to keep things streamlined, as I said, so you need a persuasive argument. There are plenty of great documentaries, absolutely, but that's not a strong opening argument for creating a board. There are plenty of great pairs of crocheted mittens, too, but I doubt the Needlework forum will ever take off. Furthermore, when it comes to documentaries, many times you can find an existing forum among the ones which have nothing to do with film where it will receive more interest due to the extant community there than it would as its own board. Sports fans would be interested in a documentary on sports, Politics on virtually anything sociological or historical, Religion for religious documentaries, True Crime for crime documentaries, History for even more history documentaries, Music for music documentaries, and so on and so forth. Documentaries have far more leeway to be brought up in these communities because documentaries themselves, while artful in their own way, are coverage and examinations of existing mediums, humanity, science, and nature, etc. A documentary cannot exist for the sake of being a documentary like a movie or a song can; it is dependent on having an existing subject. Most likely, boards already exist for the majority of those subjects. You will need to prove that they are a massive medium in their own right along the same lines as Animation. If you can do that against me, he might just give you the board. Ok, the mitten analogy was a bit of an insult . But other than that, points well taken. Thanks for partaking in a discussion 
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2021 2:00:46 GMT
Oh, don't the wrong idea here, birdie. It's not actually my call to make and I do love documentaries and find them valuable. I don't want you to think I dislike them or don't consider them valid. What's happening is this: Admin has tagged me in partially because he said the creation of the Animation board would lead to more requests and that was one of his arguments against it and partially because he wants me to argue against your proposal to see if I contradict my own arguments for the Animation board's creation here so he can tut-tut me. In short, I'm being press ganged into arguing against your proposition in order to back up a past argument. He's cheeky like that. He also wants to keep things streamlined, as I said, so you need a persuasive argument. There are plenty of great documentaries, absolutely, but that's not a strong opening argument for creating a board. There are plenty of great pairs of crocheted mittens, too, but I doubt the Needlework forum will ever take off. Furthermore, when it comes to documentaries, many times you can find an existing forum among the ones which have nothing to do with film where it will receive more interest due to the extant community there than it would as its own board. Sports fans would be interested in a documentary on sports, Politics on virtually anything sociological or historical, Religion for religious documentaries, True Crime for crime documentaries, History for even more history documentaries, Music for music documentaries, and so on and so forth. Documentaries have far more leeway to be brought up in these communities because documentaries themselves, while artful in their own way, are coverage and examinations of existing mediums, humanity, science, and nature, etc. A documentary cannot exist for the sake of being a documentary like a movie or a song can; it is dependent on having an existing subject. Most likely, boards already exist for the majority of those subjects. You will need to prove that they are a massive medium in their own right along the same lines as Animation. If you can do that against me, he might just give you the board. Ok, the mitten analogy was a bit of an insult . But other than that, points well taken. Thanks for partaking in a discussion Apologies. You as well.
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Post by Admin on Feb 20, 2021 2:40:24 GMT
What's happening is this: Admin has tagged me in partially because he said the creation of the Animation board would lead to more requests and that was one of his arguments against it and partially because he wants me to argue against your proposal to see if I contradict my own arguments for the Animation board's creation here so he can tut-tut me. In short, I'm being press ganged into arguing against your proposition in order to back up a past argument. He's cheeky like that. Nah, it's more of an "I told you so." I waited too long on the art board request, so I didn't want to miss this one.  You're right about the topical nature of documentaries. If I wanted to start a thread about Zappa, I would put it in Music with or without a Documentary board.
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Post by Admin on Feb 20, 2021 2:41:39 GMT
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Feb 20, 2021 22:42:23 GMT
Unwarranted. You could easily post on Film General, which is not so fast moving that threads will get lost (you go to the second page and you're already looking at threads a day old). They've been plenty of documentary threads there in the past.
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Post by alittlebirdie on Feb 21, 2021 0:17:49 GMT
Unwarranted. You could easily post on Film General, which is not so fast moving that threads will get lost (you go to the second page and you're already looking at threads a day old). They've been plenty of documentary threads there in the past. Unwarranted? Whoa, take it easy there Fox in the Snow. It's only a request. Btw, If you look through my history you will see "There are No Fakes" on Film General with no replies. Not a biggie, but it's a very interesting doc about a crime ring in northern Ontario around fakes in the art world. I was hoping I could entice someone to watch it. Admin mentioned the Zappa documentary which looks very good, he said he would post it on the Music board. Fair enough, but I never visit that board : So I'm not totally convinced, but I appreciated the respectful conversation that happened with a bit of fun. Maybe you should read it.
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Feb 21, 2021 5:05:22 GMT
Unwarranted. You could easily post on Film General, which is not so fast moving that threads will get lost (you go to the second page and you're already looking at threads a day old). They've been plenty of documentary threads there in the past. Unwarranted? Whoa, take it easy there Fox in the Snow. It's only a request. Btw, If you look through my history you will see "There are No Fakes" on Film General with no replies. Not a biggie, but it's a very interesting doc about a crime ring in northern Ontario around fakes in the art world. I was hoping I could entice someone to watch it. Admin mentioned the Zappa documentary which looks very good, he said he would post it on the Music board. Fair enough, but I never visit that board : So I'm not totally convinced, but I appreciated the respectful conversation that happened with a bit of fun. Maybe you should read it. Apologies, I meant a separate board is unwarranted, or unnecessary. In my opinion of course, though I do seem to be in the minority, everyone seems obsessed with getting more and more individual boards when the boards we have are all (save Politics) relatively quiet and slow moving. As far as your thread getting no responses, that's a shame, but unfortunately seems to be the fate of a lot of threads, just due to no one seeing the films in question. The pool of regular posters is quite small, not just on Film General, but across the whole of IMDb v2, and it's not helped by a lot of them sticking to their "home" board. A separate board may generate more responses, who knows. Would a separate experimental cinema board give my James Benning thread more responses.
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Post by alittlebirdie on Feb 21, 2021 22:53:43 GMT
Unwarranted? Whoa, take it easy there Fox in the Snow. It's only a request. Btw, If you look through my history you will see "There are No Fakes" on Film General with no replies. Not a biggie, but it's a very interesting doc about a crime ring in northern Ontario around fakes in the art world. I was hoping I could entice someone to watch it. Admin mentioned the Zappa documentary which looks very good, he said he would post it on the Music board. Fair enough, but I never visit that board : So I'm not totally convinced, but I appreciated the respectful conversation that happened with a bit of fun. Maybe you should read it. Apologies, I meant a separate board is unwarranted, or unnecessary. In my opinion of course, though I do seem to be in the minority, everyone seems obsessed with getting more and more individual boards when the boards we have are all (save Politics) relatively quiet and slow moving. As far as your thread getting no responses, that's a shame, but unfortunately seems to be the fate of a lot of threads, just due to no one seeing the films in question. The pool of regular posters is quite small, not just on Film General, but across the whole of IMDb v2, and it's not helped by a lot of them sticking to their "home" board. A separate board may generate more responses, who knows. Would a separate experimental cinema board give my James Benning thread more responses. You're pretty much just repeating Admin, but thanks anyway.
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