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Post by thisguy4000 on Feb 26, 2021 2:28:32 GMT
Jaws and Star Wars are the films that practically invented the modern concept of a blockbuster, so I think they qualify. We also can’t forget Pyscho.
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Post by kolchak92 on Feb 26, 2021 2:29:50 GMT
I don't really consider that a "movie", so I wouldn't count it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 2:30:43 GMT
There are hundreds of slasher movies and very few are sequels. I would take it back to Psycho though, which is responsible for not only American slasher movies but also Giallo movies. I'm thinking about the Screams, Freddy's and Jason's of the world. I know there's at least a few more that have had sequels. I thought about Psycho too, I'm not exactly sure I'd consider it a slasher movie. If you consider that then you'd need to consider Peeping Tom.
Halloween may have been the first "hit" movie that inspired more to follow.
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Post by bravomailer on Feb 26, 2021 2:32:57 GMT
Shaft led to a slew of imitations, male and female.
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Post by gw on Feb 26, 2021 2:33:49 GMT
What about Lost in Space? That isn't a movie though. I mean if we go to TV, The Twilight Zone is probably the most influential. It may very well be. Astro Boy may be pretty influential too though, though I'm not sure whether it's the manga or the show. 8 Man, Cyborg 009, Casshern, 6 Million Dollar Man, Robocop, Inspector Gadget, and so on all have very similar premises.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 2:35:01 GMT
I've always considered Jaws an eco horror film. The 70's were loaded with them. Especially one's with animals. If it's not the first it's definitely one of the top 2. The Birds, another sub-genre that can be traced to Hitchcock. That's a great point! The Birds is probably the other one in the top 2 I mentioned. We could even go back to the 50's with Them.
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Post by moviemouth on Feb 26, 2021 2:35:57 GMT
There are hundreds of slasher movies and very few are sequels. I would take it back to Psycho though, which is responsible for not only American slasher movies but also Giallo movies. I'm thinking about the Screams, Freddy's and Jason's of the world. I know there's at least a few more that have had sequels. I thought about Psycho too, I'm not exactly sure I'd consider it a slasher movie. If you consider that then you'd need to consider Peeping Tom.
Halloween may have been the first "hit" movie that inspired more to follow. Psycho is considered a slasher movie. Peeping Tom is a slasher movie, but they are 2 months apart from eachother. I don't think Hitchock was inspired by a movie he hadn't even seen when making Psycho. It is no coincidence that giallo films became very prominent shortly after Psycho.
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Post by moviemouth on Feb 26, 2021 2:41:57 GMT
There are hundreds of slasher movies and very few are sequels. I would take it back to Psycho though, which is responsible for not only American slasher movies but also Giallo movies. I'm thinking about the Screams, Freddy's and Jason's of the world. I know there's at least a few more that have had sequels. I thought about Psycho too, I'm not exactly sure I'd consider it a slasher movie. If you consider that then you'd need to consider Peeping Tom.
Halloween may have been the first "hit" movie that inspired more to follow. Giallo films inspired Black Christmas, Black Christmas inspired Halloween, Halloween inspired Friday the 13th and then every slasher movie since then sprang off from those and all of them can be traced back to Psycho imo. There are probably 50-70 slasher movies sequels in total and there are close to a thousand slasher movies. There are like 300 in the 1980s alone.
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Post by moviemouth on Feb 26, 2021 2:52:53 GMT
There are hundreds of slasher movies and very few are sequels. I would take it back to Psycho though, which is responsible for not only American slasher movies but also Giallo movies. I'm thinking about the Screams, Freddy's and Jason's of the world. I know there's at least a few more that have had sequels. I thought about Psycho too, I'm not exactly sure I'd consider it a slasher movie. If you consider that then you'd need to consider Peeping Tom.
Halloween may have been the first "hit" movie that inspired more to follow. The first slasher movie I know of that involves teenage girls being killed off one by one, by an unknown killer with a knife is The House That Screamed (1969).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 2:53:02 GMT
Psycho is considered a slasher movie. Peeping Tom is a slasher movie, but they are 2 months apart from eachother. I don't think Hitchock was inspired by a movie he hadn't even seen when making Psycho. It is no coincidence that giallo films became very prominent shortly after Psycho. I guess it is I just never considered it one. I'm trying to think of earlier films, Would And Then There Were None or House of Wax be considered a slasher film?
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Post by moviemouth on Feb 26, 2021 2:59:07 GMT
Psycho is considered a slasher movie. Peeping Tom is a slasher movie, but they are 2 months apart from eachother. I don't think Hitchock was inspired by a movie he hadn't even seen when making Psycho. It is no coincidence that giallo films became very prominent shortly after Psycho. I guess it is I just never considered it one. I'm trying to think of earlier films, Would And Then There Were None or House of Wax be considered a slasher film? I don't think so, but I suppose an argument can be made for House of Wax. And Then There Were None is a murder mystery, not a horror movie. That is the distinction there. Slasher movies are a horror subgenre. I suppose you can say that Agatha Christie is the original inspiration for all these movies if you go very broadly.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 3:03:29 GMT
Giallo films inspired Black Christmas, Black Christmas inspired Halloween, Halloween inspired Friday the 13th and then every slasher movie since then sprang off from those and all of them can be traced back to Psycho imo. There are probably 50-70 slasher movies sequels in total and there are close to a thousand slasher movies. There are like 300 in the 1980s alone. I can't argue with any of this. My only question is where did Hitchcock get his inspiration for Psycho? The 80's were an awesome decade for these films. Happy Birthday to Me and April Fools Day are two of my favorites.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 3:07:31 GMT
The first slasher movie I know of that involves teenage girls being killed off one by one, by an unknown killer with a knife is The House That Screamed (1969). I don't think I've seen this one. I'll have to check it out this weekend. This is exactly why I like coming here. There's always somebody who can tell you about things you don't know.
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Post by moviemouth on Feb 26, 2021 3:09:15 GMT
Giallo films inspired Black Christmas, Black Christmas inspired Halloween, Halloween inspired Friday the 13th and then every slasher movie since then sprang off from those and all of them can be traced back to Psycho imo. There are probably 50-70 slasher movies sequels in total and there are close to a thousand slasher movies. There are like 300 in the 1980s alone. I can't argue with any of this. My only question is where did Hitchcock get his inspiration for Psycho? The 80's were an awesome decade for these films. Happy Birthday to Me and April Fools Day are two of my favorites. The irony is that think the majority of slasher movies are dumb and boring, including the Friday the 13th franchise. April Fool's Day is one of the best slasher movies imo. I haven't seen Happy Birthday To Me. Where did Hitchcock get the inspiration for Psycho? My first guess is the novel it is based on.
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Post by kolchak92 on Feb 26, 2021 3:11:38 GMT
I never expected this thread to take off in this way.
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Post by moviemouth on Feb 26, 2021 3:13:13 GMT
I never expected this thread to take off in this way. It's fun talking about this kind of stuff and sharing opinions and movie knowledge.
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Post by kolchak92 on Feb 26, 2021 3:15:16 GMT
I never expected this thread to take off in this way. It's fun talking about this kind of stuff and sharing opinions and movie knowledge. Absolutely.
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Post by OldAussie on Feb 26, 2021 3:18:09 GMT
Grand Hotel Pulp Fiction
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Post by moviemouth on Feb 26, 2021 3:23:45 GMT
The first slasher movie I know of that involves teenage girls being killed off one by one, by an unknown killer with a knife is The House That Screamed (1969). I don't think I've seen this one. I'll have to check it out this weekend. This is exactly why I like coming here. There's always somebody who can tell you about things you don't know. Have you seen Targets (1968)? That is a clever commentary on the shift in culture that happened in the 1960s that led to a change from horror movies being supernatural monster movies and gothic tales to slasher movies. It is Boris Karloff essentially playing himself retiring against the backdrop of a mass murderer who is picking people off with a sniper rifle. It has one of the earliest visceral scenes of mass murder that I have seen.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 3:37:25 GMT
I don't think so, but I suppose an argument can be made for House of Wax. And Then There Were None is a murder mystery, not a horror movie. That is the distinction there. Slasher movies are a horror subgenre. I suppose you can say that Agatha Christie is the original inspiration for all these movies if you go very broadly. As you can tell by now I'm just a casual fan of the genre but I do think inspiration can come from different things. Not always one individual thing but multiple things that get melded together.
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