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Post by spooner5020 on Mar 10, 2021 1:12:02 GMT
Well that was....interesting. I understand this movie has its fans, but I really don’t get the love for it. It’s just another Friday the 13th rip off with just an out of nowhere ending that is only hinted at. I think even the ending didn’t even impact me all that much today. When I found out I was just like “ oh....ok.” I almost wished I was around during the original release of this movie just to experience what people did for this movie back then.
I don’t think even the sequels are that much better either. 2 was ok, but I wished it had not been connected to Sleepaway Camp because it feels so far removed from the original and who Angela was as a character. 3 I couldn’t even get past 10 minutes of. As soon as I saw the “Angela is back” graffiti on the alley wall I was like “yep..I’m done.” What they did to Sleepaway Camp and Angela’s character was just dumb. She wasn’t just another Freddy Krueger or Jason and she shouldn’t have been treated as such.
Return to Sleepaway Camp was actually a better movie than the sequels before it. I liked the story a bit better too. I hated the ending though. WTF was up with that?
I heard there may be a remake or it’s been talked about, but how could they possibly remake it today? They’d have to do something COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. Don’t know what that would be though.
All in all I didn’t think it was a bad movie, I just didn’t think it was anything special.
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Post by Hurdy Gurdy Man on Mar 10, 2021 3:28:39 GMT
The ending is what makes the film memorable, more than Friday the 13th. It's notable that the nature of the twist is not about who is the killer but something else and there are number of hints to it throughout the film if you go back and take another look. Even Friday the 13th has an ending that comes out of nowhere, as it involves a new character who is not only unseen but we also have no idea that such a character existed in the first place.
And Aunt Martha is one of the most memorable supporting characters from 80s slashers:
It also made for one of the best episodes on The Cinema Snob:
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Post by James on Mar 10, 2021 3:46:06 GMT
I like it. It's no Friday the 13th but you really feel for Angela and the ending is quite shocking as you watch the movie up until that point.
2 and 3 are self-aware spoofs that are fun but not quite as good IMO.
Then there's Return which despite trying to capture the same essence of the original - they even brought back the director of the original for good(?) measure - I thought it was quite cringey and obnoxious. Awesome death scenes though.
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Post by Prime etc. on Mar 10, 2021 4:00:25 GMT
The other thing is that the focus is on kids--unlike other ones where it is the camp counselors.
This one actually focus on the camp kids.
I dont have an interest in rewatching it but it was a shock ending.
There was a real life case similar to this--Oprah talked to the individual.
Aunt Martha was creepy.
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Post by novastar6 on Mar 10, 2021 7:12:38 GMT
The other thing is that the focus is on kids--unlike other ones where it is the camp counselors. This one actually focus on the camp kids. I dont have an interest in rewatching it but it was a shock ending. There was a real life case similar to this--Oprah talked to the individual. Aunt Martha was creepy.
I know I've said it before, but for years I had the impression Aunt Martha was the killer. I don't remember why, but it just seemed to make sense.
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Post by darkreviewer2013 on Mar 10, 2021 10:12:44 GMT
Sorry to hear the movie didn't really click with you, OP.
As for me - it's one of my favourite slashers. Yes, it borrows heavily from the original Friday the 13th, but I enjoyed the interactions between the teens and liked that they actually looked and behaved like youngsters as opposed to 20-somethings for once. Some of the kills were pretty nasty (especially that of the perverted cook) and it actually had a fair amount of story. The mystery element didn't leave any doubt as to who the perpetrator was, but that ending was still extremely creepy and surreal.
Part 2 is a lot of fun as well. It's a horror comedy that parodies grisly summer camp slashers in a playful manner that reminds me of the tongue-in-cheek approach adopted by the superior Jason Lives two years earlier. It has little in common with the first film, but I won't complain.
I hadn't heard this talk about a remake before but would have no interest in that. These types of movies are part and parcel of an era that has now passed and cannot successfully be recreated (at least not without exceptional skill and effort on the part of film-makers).
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Post by Marv on Mar 10, 2021 11:19:55 GMT
The first one was very much a Friday clone with a weird twist ending...that scene is still haunting. The sequels turned Angela into a comedic anti-villain killing off annoying teens. I enjoy them.
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Post by stefancrosscoe on Mar 10, 2021 11:29:52 GMT
The first one was very much a Friday clone with a weird twist ending...that scene is still haunting. The sequels turned Angela into a comedic anti-villain killing off annoying teens. I enjoy them. Oh yeah. I first saw it back in winter of 2007, after someone recommended it to me, and it lie around on Youtube in several chapters/part of 8-10 minutes, and I was completely alone, seeing the film in the dark and with my headphones on. Then when that horrific scene/face, along with those ridiculously creepy sounds and music arrived, yeah, I did not feel too "comfy", there and then. As considering all the cheese and sleaze which had went on earlier (even though it did contain some truly nasty and brutal kills) I was never prepared for that kind of ending. Still, it stands firmly as one of the better camp/slasher of the 80s, along with The Burning (1981) and Funhouse (1981), where as Madman (1982), Cheerleader Camp (1987) and Memorial Valley Massacre (1988) are a few later ones, which surely is anything close to "scary", but a hell of a lot of fun to behold.
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Post by jonesjxd on Mar 10, 2021 11:33:45 GMT
All devoted slasher movie fans have their lesser known favorites, for me it's Silent Night Deadly Night, Intruder and Madman. Sleepaway Camp is a lot of fun, but most of it's praise has everything to do with it's mindf*ck ending and nothing to do with the 80 minutes that came before. It's a F13 ripoff, as is Madman but I think the Madman Mars character is a cooler slasher than Angela.
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Post by spooner5020 on Mar 10, 2021 11:39:25 GMT
The first one was very much a Friday clone with a weird twist ending...that scene is still haunting. The sequels turned Angela into a comedic anti-villain killing off annoying teens. I enjoy them. That’s EXACTLY why I didn’t care for the sequels. I don’t even think the fact that she’s really a guy affects the sequels either. I think it was brought up once in the first sequel and then never brought up again. I think I’d have been happier with the sequels if they dropped the Angela character. Again Angela making one liners seems so far removed from the original vision of the character that they could be 2 completely different characters. Yes I do understand that she had been in a mental hospital, but it does not change the fact that I still think it’s far removed from the original vision. If I had made the sequels I would have delved more into Angela’s character and seeing how really being a guy affected her. This is why I like Return because despite it not being very good at least I can see that this is still the crazy Angela from the first movie and not whatever the hell the non canon sequels made her to be. |
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Post by stefancrosscoe on Mar 10, 2021 11:39:57 GMT
All devoted slasher movie fans have their lesser known favorites, for me it's Silent Night Deadly Night, Intruder and Madman. Sleepaway Camp is a lot of fun, but most of it's praise has everything to do with it's mindf*ck ending and nothing to do with the 80 minutes that came before. It's a F13 ripoff, as is Madman but I think the Madman Mars character is a cooler slasher than Angela. I remember reading about the making of The Burning (1981) and how the character of Cropsy, was suppsedly being the main inspiration to both Friday the 13th Part 2, Madman and The Burning, but I guess they ended up changing a few things along the way, in names and characters, but I believe that The Burning were the one who stood out the best of the bunch, and also featured more focus on final boys or men, rather than final girls, like so many of the slashers/horror films did. It did not hurt that it also contained some absolute brutal gore and quite shocking ones as well, along with some very fine looking babes, a young George Costanza, with hair and yeah, one classy and creepy synth-score by Rick Wakeman.
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Post by Marv on Mar 10, 2021 11:44:35 GMT
The first one was very much a Friday clone with a weird twist ending...that scene is still haunting. The sequels turned Angela into a comedic anti-villain killing off annoying teens. I enjoy them. That’s EXACTLY why I didn’t care for the sequels. I don’t even think the fact that she’s really a guy affects the sequels either. I think it was brought up once in the first sequel and then never brought up again. I think I’d have been happier with the sequels if they dropped the Angela character. Again Angela making one liners seems so far removed from the original vision of the character that they could be 2 completely different characters. Yea they basically are two different characters. It doesn't bother me because I was never as invested in the Angela character as say Freddy or Jason. The Sleepaway movies always felt like shallow pop slasher even in a genre that isn't taken all that seriously.
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Post by spooner5020 on Mar 10, 2021 13:27:35 GMT
Also can someone explain the ending of Return to Sleepaway Camp? Angela just starts laughing like a maniac and then makes an evil face at the camera. I assumed it was supposed to be an homage to the original’s ending cause of how unnerving it was, but Angela didn’t even make that face at the end of the original.
Also I loved how they did nothing while she just stood there laughing. Like no one thought to do anything except just stand there?
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Mar 10, 2021 17:40:55 GMT
Well that was....interesting. I understand this movie has its fans, but I really don’t get the love for it. It’s just another Friday the 13th rip off with just an out of nowhere ending that is only hinted at. I think even the ending didn’t even impact me all that much today. When I found out I was just like “ oh....ok.” I almost wished I was around during the original release of this movie just to experience what people did for this movie back then. All in all I didn’t think it was a bad movie, I just didn’t think it was anything special.The movie itself is nothing special. Its the surprise ending that stuck people. But that sort of thing is not as big a deal nowadays. The remake didn't have the same impact.
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Post by TutuAnimationPrincess on Mar 10, 2021 21:52:00 GMT
I have to disagree slightly with Sleepaway Camp being a Friday the 13th knock off. Yes they are both slashers taking place at a summer camp, but they both have a very different vibe and feel to them. If anything, Friday the 13th feels a little more like Halloween minus the fact we don't see the killer until the end. Sleepaway Camp somewhat combines an 80s kid's camp movie with a somewhat surreal mystery vibe to it that separates it from the pack. I think Friday the 13th is the overall better film but both are quite good at what they do.
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Post by jonesjxd on Mar 10, 2021 22:26:09 GMT
All devoted slasher movie fans have their lesser known favorites, for me it's Silent Night Deadly Night, Intruder and Madman. Sleepaway Camp is a lot of fun, but most of it's praise has everything to do with it's mindf*ck ending and nothing to do with the 80 minutes that came before. It's a F13 ripoff, as is Madman but I think the Madman Mars character is a cooler slasher than Angela. I remember reading about the making of The Burning (1981) and how the character of Cropsy, was suppsedly being the main inspiration to both Friday the 13th Part 2, Madman and The Burning, but I guess they ended up changing a few things along the way, in names and characters, but I believe that The Burning were the one who stood out the best of the bunch, and also featured more focus on final boys or men, rather than final girls, like so many of the slashers/horror films did. It did not hurt that it also contained some absolute brutal gore and quite shocking ones as well, along with some very fine looking babes, a young George Costanza, with hair and yeah, one classy and creepy synth-score by Rick Wakeman. The Burning is one of the better lesser known slashers from that time, but it's one I've only seen a few times and not until my mid to late twenties. There's no added nostalgia in that one for me.
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Post by CrepedCrusader on Mar 10, 2021 22:39:16 GMT
Funny review of the movie:
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Post by Hurdy Gurdy Man on May 27, 2021 11:32:58 GMT
R.I.P. Desiree Gould (Aunt Martha).
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Post by politicidal on May 27, 2021 14:01:57 GMT
R.I.P. Desiree Gould (Aunt Martha).
R.I.P.
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Post by kolchak92 on May 27, 2021 16:16:31 GMT
Friday the 13th was better. I think the love for Sleepaway Camp is mostly due to the novelty of its ending.
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