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Post by mortsahlfan on Mar 10, 2021 20:58:53 GMT
I've seen at least a few documentaries how each of his movies are filled with clues about the ruling class of the world, and all the debauchery involved.
"The Mysterious Work of Stanley Kubrick" and another about the faking of the moon landing (something I saw many years ago) are a few documentaries.
I think its possible that Kubrick threw in certain things for his own amusement, knowing people always look for symbolism. Kubrick seemed like a very intelligent guy.
I once read a quote (probably refuted now) supposedly by Nicole Kidman who said that Kubrick told her "The world is run by pedophiles", which could be true, since it seems like people become power-drunk, and engage in the worst acts and crimes to show they are above the law.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Mar 10, 2021 21:03:14 GMT
So Kubrick believed in New World Order/QAnon/Pizzagate/etc before it was a thing? I did not know that.
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Post by moviemouth on Mar 10, 2021 21:08:06 GMT
No, but I think he might have believed some of it.
He definitely had an opinion on the people at the top, since it is a recurring theme in his movies. Distrust of the elite.
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Post by vegalyra on Mar 10, 2021 21:43:02 GMT
I imagine he had read C. Wright Mills’ old book called the Power Elite, one of the earlier post war books about an elite ruling class made up of high level generals, politicians and families of high ranking stature (the Kennedy’s for example). It wouldn’t surprise me. No orgies took place in the book, but a more or less secret cabal running a dominant country and the ordinary citizen having little influence seems to fit well with Eyes Wide Shut in particular. I believe there is an article from Newsweek that links EWS with Jeffrey Epstein and influence peddlers in high places.
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Post by politicidal on Mar 10, 2021 22:12:45 GMT
Alright gents, let's get cracking!
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Post by jonesjxd on Mar 10, 2021 23:27:21 GMT
Kubrick was a genius, deep thinker, and among the greatest artists of all time, but I think many people who obsess over his attention to detail are mostly overthinking but only at an inch deepness. I don't believe he filmed the moon landing, but I do think he was given unprecendented access to NASA while filming 2001 and it left a lasting fascination with him, and that fascination led to an Apollo 11 sweater appearing in The Shining. I think Eyes Wide Shut is a movie about sex and the deceit, danger and elitism that comes in pursuit of sex, and as a result those things came together in the orgy scene. Do I believe it's possible this scene was inspired by an actual orgy Kubrick witnessed? Yeah, probably. He was a hit filmmaker, of course he was going to rub shoulders with rich people with their guard down. But that doesn't mean he was exposing some murderous secret society. It was probably just an experience that fascinated him and he knew he always wanted to include in a movie. My chief criticism of conspiracy theorists is they only seem care about the ridiculously high murder, rape, drug, child sex trafficking, etc- rate in the United States when they can attach a sexy elite fantasy scenario to it. This is a dangerous country and with the high rates in all those categories, you are lucky if you're life remains untouched, and if you weren't lucky, you have my full sympathy and understanding, but it had nothing to do with rich people in Venetian masks.
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Post by MCDemuth on Mar 10, 2021 23:47:31 GMT
I don't believe in any of that... Only яedяum
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Post by Mulder and Scully on Mar 11, 2021 2:18:34 GMT
No, it's just painfully dull, self-indulgent crap.
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Post by judgejosephdredd on Mar 11, 2021 2:40:12 GMT
You could always ask his daughter, she is on Twitter I think.
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Post by darkreviewer2013 on Mar 11, 2021 7:11:12 GMT
It's possible. He was an extremely precise film-maker. He commanded absolute control of the visual imagery in his movies. While I won't go as far as saying that I actually believe he included that type of subtle symbolism in his movies, it wouldn't shock me to learn that he did (assuming he truly held those kinds of views).
As far as those beliefs are concerned, history (indeed, recent history) has shown us that elites can never be fully trusted. They are often corrupt - sometimes criminally so - and self-serving. Power attracts certain types like moths to a flame and powerful people are not necessarily ethical people, even if they portray themselves as such. Even being a member of elite segments of society - or the process of getting there - can corrupt some who might otherwise have lived harmless lives.
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Post by mortsahlfan on Mar 11, 2021 10:52:32 GMT
No, but I think he might have believed some of it. He definitely had an opinion on the people at the top, since it is a recurring theme in his movies. Distrust of the elite. I think most would agree with that.
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Post by mortsahlfan on Mar 11, 2021 14:40:49 GMT
Ran across this by accident on reddit.. Just uploaded yesterday. Haven't seen it yet, wanted to post it here before I forgot, or before its taken down.
A comedian talking about Kubrick's movies - very fitting to this place
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Post by Prime etc. on Mar 11, 2021 16:33:48 GMT
I once read a quote (probably refuted now) supposedly by Nicole Kidman who said that Kubrick told her "The world is run by pedophiles", which could be true, since it seems like people become power-drunk, and engage in the worst acts and crimes to show they are above the law. So in other words he has seen Paolini's Salo: 120 Days of Sodom.
Giuseppe (Pino) Pelosi (1958–2017), then 17 years old, was caught driving Pasolini's car and confessed to the murder. He was convicted in 1976, initially with "unknown others", but this phrase was later removed from the verdict.[25][26] Twenty-nine years later, on 7 May 2005, Pelosi retracted his confession, which he said had been made under the threat of violence to his family. He claimed that three people "with a Southern accent" had committed the murder, insulting Pasolini as a "dirty communist".
Pelosi eh?
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Post by mortsahlfan on Mar 11, 2021 19:21:36 GMT
You could always ask his daughter, she is on Twitter I think.
You know, I've read some excerpts from articles posted on other movie boards, and it seems like she's a bit whacky.
I don't even remember liking the documentary from years ago, but was wondering if there are people who see messages in one movie, all of them, or a few... Maybe placing a book with a very strong and clear message, or things like that. Basically, having a strong message in the background without interrupting the rhythm of the movie, and without hammering it over the audience's head.
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Post by hi224 on Mar 11, 2021 19:24:02 GMT
I've seen at least a few documentaries how each of his movies are filled with clues about the ruling class of the world, and all the debauchery involved. "The Mysterious Work of Stanley Kubrick" and another about the faking of the moon landing (something I saw many years ago) are a few documentaries. I think its possible that Kubrick threw in certain things for his own amusement, knowing people always look for symbolism. Kubrick seemed like a very intelligent guy. I once read a quote (probably refuted now) supposedly by Nicole Kidman who said that Kubrick told her "The world is run by pedophiles", which could be true, since it seems like people become power-drunk, and engage in the worst acts and crimes to show they are above the law. maybe?.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Mar 11, 2021 21:54:16 GMT
I find the idea that the moon landing was faked silly, and Kubrick being the director and throwing clues into The Shining sillier. I do think the Native American stuff may have been intentional, though.
As far as Eyes Wide Shut goes, isn't the most unrealistic part that the classy orgy isn't on an island?
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Post by mortsahlfan on Mar 13, 2021 15:11:51 GMT
I find the idea that the moon landing was faked silly, and Kubrick being the director and throwing clues into The Shining sillier. I do think the Native American stuff may have been intentional, though. As far as Eyes Wide Shut goes, isn't the most unrealistic part that the classy orgy isn't on an island?
People can take videos/pictures if they're outside. It would be quite noticeable. In the movie, they had security, passwords, etc.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Mar 13, 2021 19:52:49 GMT
I find the idea that the moon landing was faked silly, and Kubrick being the director and throwing clues into The Shining sillier. I do think the Native American stuff may have been intentional, though. As far as Eyes Wide Shut goes, isn't the most unrealistic part that the classy orgy isn't on an island?
People can take videos/pictures if they're outside. It would be quite noticeable. In the movie, they had security, passwords, etc.
You have to know what I'm referring to.
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Post by millar70 on Mar 13, 2021 20:59:20 GMT
Once The Beatles realized people were finding "secret messages" in their songs, they started putting them in their songs just to fuck with those people.
I'm sure Kubrick did the same thing.
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Post by Winston Wolfe on Mar 14, 2021 2:46:20 GMT
Yeah, I've heard that. Some say that Kubrick was killed after making Eyes for "exposing the elite."
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