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Post by Downey on Mar 12, 2021 21:16:31 GMT
Sid in Toy Story? It's not like he was torturing what he thought were actual beings (he thought the toys were inanimate objects) and the psycholgical trauma he got when they came to life will almost certainly require psyhciatric help. This film..it always bothered me the stuff about him torturing toys because--ok I admit, I dropped Dr McCoy's action figure off a balcony a number of times--when he was on fire, but he was landing in a bucket of water..except the times I deliberately missed the bucket...which was more than one occasion.
I confess, I was cruel to Dr McCoy but he's a doctor dammit and he had a surly expression that annoyed me! But I think a story about toys being alive, and highlighting this tendency with kids and toy abuse? I am sorry this is very different from the land of misfit toys--that was using toys as a surrogate for accepting those who are different--but what exactly is the message with Toy Story? The kid was making new toys using baby heads and mechanical spider legs---I think it takes living toys a wee bit too seriously.
That bothered me about Toy Story.
You felt the toys were being abused in a kid's cartoon movie. You have bigger problems than I thought.
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Post by Prime etc. on Mar 12, 2021 21:33:50 GMT
You have bigger problems than I thought. Not as big as yours. 
The makers are the ones who highlighted the toy abuse theme. Pay attention!
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Post by Archelaus on Mar 12, 2021 21:35:00 GMT
Milton Krest in Licence to Kill. He deserved a comeuppance in every way, but his death is very graphic.
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Post by Downey on Mar 12, 2021 21:37:06 GMT
You have bigger problems than I thought. Not as big as yours. 
The makers are the ones who highlighted the toy abuse theme. Pay attention!
It's a kid's cartoon movie of course I never paid attention to it.
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Post by Prime etc. on Mar 12, 2021 21:40:31 GMT
It's a kid's cartoon movie of course I never paid attention to it. Yet you watch it. haha
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Post by Downey on Mar 12, 2021 21:45:19 GMT
It's a kid's cartoon movie of course I never paid attention to it. Yet you watch it. haha
Not paying attention to a kid's movie is watching it? So a hard working dad switches on the TV for his baby to watch Toy Story to entertain the baby while he works and that means he's watching it to you? Okay. Oh yeah, I almost forgot: haha.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Mar 12, 2021 21:51:03 GMT
Sid in Toy Story? It's not like he was torturing what he thought were actual beings (he thought the toys were inanimate objects) and the psycholgical trauma he got when they came to life will almost certainly require psyhciatric help. This film..it always bothered me the stuff about him torturing toys because--ok I admit, I dropped Dr McCoy's action figure off a balcony a number of times--when he was on fire, but he was landing in a bucket of water..except the times I deliberately missed the bucket...which was more than one occasion.
I confess, I was cruel to Dr McCoy but he's a doctor dammit and he had a surly expression that annoyed me! But I think a story about toys being alive, and highlighting this tendency with kids and toy abuse? I am sorry this is very different from the land of misfit toys--that was using toys as a surrogate for accepting those who are different--but what exactly is the message with Toy Story? The kid was making new toys using baby heads and mechanical spider legs---I think it takes living toys a wee bit too seriously.
That bothered me about Toy Story.
I was a bit dissapointed by Sid's cameo in Toy Story 3, so many jokes they could have done after he got PTSD, like he sees a toy moving: "I did not just see that toy move, I did not see it move, just like Dr Williams told me..."
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Post by Prime etc. on Mar 12, 2021 22:05:25 GMT
Not paying attention to a kid's movie is watching it? So a hard working dad switches on the TV for his baby to watch Toy Story to entertain the baby while he works and that means he's watching it to you? Okay. Oh yeah, I almost forgot: haha. Yeah now you are making excuses, Mr cinematic authority. HAHA!
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Post by Downey on Mar 12, 2021 22:09:42 GMT
Not paying attention to a kid's movie is watching it? So a hard working dad switches on the TV for his baby to watch Toy Story to entertain the baby while he works and that means he's watching it to you? Okay. Oh yeah, I almost forgot: haha. Yeah now you are making excuses, Mr cinematic authority. HAHA!
I have voiced my dislike for animation movies on here before, nice try though.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Mar 12, 2021 22:13:32 GMT
Also Stinky Pete in Toy Story 2? Were his intentions even that bad? In terms of long term consequences, the toys would probably been better off at the museum.
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Post by Prime etc. on Mar 12, 2021 22:14:37 GMT
I have voiced my dislike for animation movies on here before, nice try though.
Sure. Nice attempt at evading your Pixar love.
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Post by vegalyra on Mar 12, 2021 23:07:58 GMT
Colonel Zolo from Romancing the Stone. He gets his forearm and hand chewed off by a crocodile, then he's set on fire and falls into the crocodile pit. While he seems like a very bad dude I thought maybe it was a little over the top to get eaten alive after getting set on fire and losing his hand. Poor guy. 
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Post by millar70 on Mar 12, 2021 23:24:51 GMT
Jeremy Piven's character in Old School was an asshole for sure, but I'm not sure he deserved to have a car fall on him as it drove off a bridge.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Mar 12, 2021 23:42:14 GMT
Jeremy Piven's character in Old School was an asshole for sure, but I'm not sure he deserved to have a car fall on him as it drove off a bridge. Todd Phillips certainly goes ham on his villains. I think all Anthony Rapp is truly guilty of in Road Trip is scheming to make Breckin Meyer miss the due date of an essay...he is bitten on the throat by a snake and later dies in a suicide cult. I thought about mentioning it but I think the OTT-ness is the joke.
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Post by drystyx on Mar 12, 2021 23:49:52 GMT
Pretty much everyone who dies in FLESH+BLOOD, but that was part of the point of the story, showing how poor mortals are at stewardship. All the guys giving orders and causing Hell are still alive at the end, but the poor saps taking orders and trying to get by don't fare so well. Still, I rank it as one of the 40 best films ever made, because it is a touching story, and the poor saps never lose their dignity.
I think the two homosexual soldiers are the ones easiest to empathize with, even heterosexuals, and that says a lot for the writing and directing. Their deaths really grip a viewer, because we never see those two as villains, but more "anti villains", villains with totally credible motivation.
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