|
|
Post by politicidal on Mar 12, 2021 23:43:37 GMT
Perhaps not surprisingly, it's generally positive.
|
|
|
|
Post by hobowar on Mar 13, 2021 0:15:34 GMT
Disney must have paid them off.
It's the only explaination.
|
|
|
|
Post by James on Mar 13, 2021 2:30:15 GMT
Alright, now this is where the real fun begins.
|
|
|
|
Post by Power Ranger on Mar 13, 2021 9:03:55 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by Stammerhead on Mar 13, 2021 10:00:13 GMT
Almost every time I see that title I think of...
|
|
|
|
Post by Power Ranger on Mar 13, 2021 10:09:47 GMT
Why do they hate each other again? Are they still competing for Steve’s affections?
|
|
|
|
Post by Skaathar on Mar 13, 2021 18:45:09 GMT
I don't mind the banter, I'm just still irritated that they made Bucky chatty instead of his more stoic Winter Soldier persona.
|
|
Downey
Junior Member
@hunter
Posts: 2,329
Likes: 497
|
Post by Downey on Mar 13, 2021 19:28:13 GMT
I don't mind the banter, I'm just still irritated that they made Bucky chatty instead of his more stoic Winter Soldier persona. I believe they call it progression. |
|
|
|
Post by Skaathar on Mar 14, 2021 18:19:08 GMT
I don't mind the banter, I'm just still irritated that they made Bucky chatty instead of his more stoic Winter Soldier persona. I believe they call it progression. When it's done this abruptly, it's called character inconsistency. |
|
Downey
Junior Member
@hunter
Posts: 2,329
Likes: 497
|
Post by Downey on Mar 14, 2021 18:43:37 GMT
I believe they call it progression. When it's done this abruptly, it's called character inconsistency. Winter Soldier was released eight or more Marvel movies ago I think that's a reasonable amount of time to start becoming sane again. And it's been said that Winter Soldier is still experiencing mental health problems in this TV series anyway. |
|
|
|
Post by Skaathar on Mar 15, 2021 2:18:44 GMT
When it's done this abruptly, it's called character inconsistency. Winter Soldier was released eight or more Marvel movies ago I think that's a reasonable amount of time to start becoming sane again. And it's been said that Winter Soldier is still experiencing mental health problems in this TV series anyway. Winter Soldier was a mind controlled and tortured assassin for decades. He even mentioned in Civil War that he remembered all his assassinations. You don't get rid of trauma like that in just 6 years or so. |
|
Downey
Junior Member
@hunter
Posts: 2,329
Likes: 497
|
Post by Downey on Mar 15, 2021 2:32:17 GMT
Winter Soldier was released eight or more Marvel movies ago I think that's a reasonable amount of time to start becoming sane again. And it's been said that Winter Soldier is still experiencing mental health problems in this TV series anyway. Winter Soldier was a mind controlled and tortured assassin for decades. He even mentioned in Civil War that he remembered all his assassinations. You don't get rid of trauma like that in just 6 years or so. Which is why he'll still be recieving ongoing help throughout the TV show too. Anything else? |
|
|
|
Post by dazz on Mar 15, 2021 8:46:03 GMT
Winter Soldier was released eight or more Marvel movies ago I think that's a reasonable amount of time to start becoming sane again. And it's been said that Winter Soldier is still experiencing mental health problems in this TV series anyway. Winter Soldier was a mind controlled and tortured assassin for decades. He even mentioned in Civil War that he remembered all his assassinations. You don't get rid of trauma like that in just 6 years or so. Yes but thats with normal treatment, Bucky received treatment under the Wakandan health care system, and those fuckers can save your life by shoving a metal ball into your bullet hole, and possibly arsehole, but the long term benefits of vibranium suppositories is woefully lacking in research data.
|
|
|
|
Post by Skaathar on Mar 15, 2021 9:07:56 GMT
Winter Soldier was a mind controlled and tortured assassin for decades. He even mentioned in Civil War that he remembered all his assassinations. You don't get rid of trauma like that in just 6 years or so. Which is why he'll still be recieving ongoing help throughout the TV show too. Anything else? Except he's already changed his attitude even before this ongoing treatment. You can come up with whatever excuses you want, in the end it's still character inconsistency which has been a pretty common weakness of the MCU films in the latter films especially since the Russo's took over the major team-up movies. |
|
Downey
Junior Member
@hunter
Posts: 2,329
Likes: 497
|
Post by Downey on Mar 15, 2021 10:28:05 GMT
Which is why he'll still be recieving ongoing help throughout the TV show too. Anything else? Except he's already changed his attitude even before this ongoing treatment. You can come up with whatever excuses you want, in the end it's still character inconsistency which has been a pretty common weakness of the MCU films in the latter films especially since the Russo's took over the major team-up movies. You seem hopelessly unaware of how rehabilitation works. Some people take to it better than others even in the real world so it has taken a young healthy man six years to recover from being brainwashed while still getting ongoing treatment, I don't find that difficult to believe. That's not an MCU weakness that's character development and actual reality. |
|
|
|
Post by Skaathar on Mar 15, 2021 15:24:38 GMT
Except he's already changed his attitude even before this ongoing treatment. You can come up with whatever excuses you want, in the end it's still character inconsistency which has been a pretty common weakness of the MCU films in the latter films especially since the Russo's took over the major team-up movies. You seem hopelessly unaware of how rehabilitation works. Some people take to it better than others even in the real world so it has taken a young healthy man six years to recover from being brainwashed while still getting ongoing treatment, I don't find that difficult to believe. That's not an MCU weakness that's character development and actual reality. Have you ever dealt with people suffering shell shock and/or PTSD? I don't think you fully realize how difficult it is to overcome these.
|
|
Downey
Junior Member
@hunter
Posts: 2,329
Likes: 497
|
Post by Downey on Mar 15, 2021 15:35:07 GMT
You seem hopelessly unaware of how rehabilitation works. Some people take to it better than others even in the real world so it has taken a young healthy man six years to recover from being brainwashed while still getting ongoing treatment, I don't find that difficult to believe. That's not an MCU weakness that's character development and actual reality. Have you ever dealt with people suffering shell shock and/or PTSD? I think you're hoplessly unaware of how difficult it is to overcome these. Oh God here comes Frasier Skaathar. Let me guess you've conveniently undertaken and passed with high distinctions years of psychology exams and essays while we've been having this conversation haven't you, Skaathar? |
|
|
|
Post by Skaathar on Mar 15, 2021 21:04:38 GMT
Have you ever dealt with people suffering shell shock and/or PTSD? I think you're hoplessly unaware of how difficult it is to overcome these. Oh God here comes Frasier Skaathar. Let me guess you've conveniently undertaken and passed with high distinctions years of psychology exams and essays while we've been having this conversation haven't you, Skaathar? No, but both me and my wife come from military families and I've had first hand experience interacting with people with PTSD and shell shock who've tried to overcome them with therapy and psych sessions and all that jazz. It's not as easy to overcome as you might think. Now, what's your credentials? Have you conveniently undertaken and passed with high distinctions years of psychology exams and essays while we've been having this conversation?
|
|
Downey
Junior Member
@hunter
Posts: 2,329
Likes: 497
|
Post by Downey on Mar 15, 2021 21:31:41 GMT
Oh God here comes Frasier Skaathar. Let me guess you've conveniently undertaken and passed with high distinctions years of psychology exams and essays while we've been having this conversation haven't you, Skaathar? No, but both me and my wife come from military families and I've had first hand experience interacting with people with PTSD and shell shock who've tried to overcome them with therapy and psych sessions and all that jazz. It's not as easy to overcome as you might think. Now, what's your credentials? Have you conveniently undertaken and passed with high distinctions years of psychology exams and essays while we've been having this conversation? I've already mentioned to you in this thread no less that Bucky will still be getting ongoing mental health help in the TV series I don't know how much more clearer I can be with you on this, Fraiser. |
|
|
|
Post by Skaathar on Mar 16, 2021 1:33:39 GMT
No, but both me and my wife come from military families and I've had first hand experience interacting with people with PTSD and shell shock who've tried to overcome them with therapy and psych sessions and all that jazz. It's not as easy to overcome as you might think. Now, what's your credentials? Have you conveniently undertaken and passed with high distinctions years of psychology exams and essays while we've been having this conversation? I've already mentioned to you in this thread no less that Bucky will still be getting ongoing mental health help in the TV series I don't know how much more clearer I can be with you on this, Fraiser. The person who first resorts to ad-hominem attacks and name-calling is usually the one who is unable to come up with any further intellectual rebuttals to the argument. In other words, by calling me names you've just admitted that you lost this little debate of ours.
|
|
