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Post by miike80 on Mar 19, 2021 8:36:03 GMT
Well...what did you think of it?
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Mar 19, 2021 17:51:31 GMT
Well...what did you think of it?
On the one hand it is much improved because the longer running time allows for greater breathing room for character development, less confusion in action scenes, more time to spend on ogling luscious SFX, and more expansion of the villains. I love all that New Gods stuff!
Most improved characters: Steppenwolf and Cyborg. Wow. Great stuff there. And Superman and Aquaman are also given more depth.
But by that very same token, its too long, spends time on things that maybe a better edited version wouldn't, and gets away from the main story by exploring less relevant side stories too often...
SPOILERS!
One example is the Flash saves the girl scene. Beautiful scene to look at, and I'm glad I got the chance to see it, but it doesn't really add to the overall story or to Flash's development. It just introduces the girl, and poorly, because we still don't know who she is (we know because of spoilers). I can see why someone might've thought that scene could be cut without sacrificing anything (other than a showcase for great SFX). I would have rather punched up the whole father in jail, innocent but accused of killing his mother subplot. Because that's truly important to who Flash is.
Another scene was Martian Manhunter. The person he turns out to really be (the colonel) already knows and is friendly with Lois Lane, so why pretend to be Martha in order to visit her? Why not just come as himself? Why not have that scene just really be Martha? While it was cool to see Martian Manhunter the scene actually undercuts the effectiveness of a real Martha coming to visit Lois with a message that only she could sincerely deliver, which would have been much more meaningful.
Also, I'm on the fence about how easily/quickly Cyborg got over his dad dying; I understand that Cyborg and his dad didn't get along, but sheesh. Also, did the football footage have to be in slo-mo and look like the first ten minutes of Saving Private Ryan? Not every single moment needs a million dollar budget.
Conclusion: Call me crazy but I already liked the theatrical version of the Justice League, so I like this this version even more! Its much more expansive and the world building is amazing and much more fleshed out. ITs a distinct vision. The longer runtime allows for more characterization, action, FX, etc. and the movie benefits from it overall (with a few quibbles here and there). However the improvements don't make it a perfect movie. But I like it enough to recommend it, see it several times more, and even to buy it when it comes out on BluRay.
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Post by onethreetwo on Mar 19, 2021 18:20:52 GMT
#77 on IMDb's Top 250.
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Post by hobowar on Mar 19, 2021 19:11:45 GMT
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Mar 19, 2021 19:14:42 GMT
Don't worry, Hobo. The next DC movie will suck and all will be right with the world again.
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Post by miike80 on Mar 20, 2021 6:20:48 GMT
Well...what did you think of it?
On the one hand it is much improved because the longer running time allows for greater breathing room for character development, less confusion in action scenes, more time to spend on ogling luscious SFX, and more expansion of the villains. I love all that New Gods stuff!
Most improved characters: Steppenwolf and Cyborg. Wow. Great stuff there. And Superman and Aquaman are also given more depth.
But by that very same token, its too long, spends time on things that maybe a better edited version wouldn't, and gets away from the main story by exploring less relevant side stories too often...
SPOILERS!
One example is the Flash saves the girl scene. Beautiful scene to look at, and I'm glad I got the chance to see it, but it doesn't really add to the overall story or to Flash's development. It just introduces the girl, and poorly, because we still don't know who she is (we know because of spoilers). I can see why someone might've thought that scene could be cut without sacrificing anything (other than a showcase for great SFX). I would have rather punched up the whole father in jail, innocent but accused of killing his mother subplot. Because that's truly important to who Flash is.
Another scene was Martian Manhunter. The person he turns out to really be (the colonel) already knows and is friendly with Lois Lane, so why pretend to be Martha in order to visit her? Why not just come as himself? Why not have that scene just really be Martha? While it was cool to see Martian Manhunter the scene actually undercuts the effectiveness of a real Martha coming to visit Lois with a message that only she could sincerely deliver, which would have been much more meaningful.
Also, I'm on the fence about how easily/quickly Cyborg got over his dad dying; I understand that Cyborg and his dad didn't get along, but sheesh. Also, did the football footage have to be in slo-mo and look like the first ten minutes of Saving Private Ryan? Not every single moment needs a million dollar budget.
Conclusion: Call me crazy but I already liked the theatrical version of the Justice League, so I like this this version even more! Its much more expansive and the world building is amazing and much more fleshed out. ITs a distinct vision. The longer runtime allows for more characterization, action, FX, etc. and the movie benefits from it overall (with a few quibbles here and there). However the improvements don't make it a perfect movie. But I like it enough to recommend it, see it several times more, and even to buy it when it comes out on BluRay.
Glad you liked it. It's a blu ray buy for me. If I had received the original as a gift I would have tested its Frisbee qualities
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