Rate: Zack Snyder's Justice League

Two votes so far - a 10 and a 1.

You people never change.

Agreed. I wouldn’t even be surprised if that person didn’t even see the movie. 

A-

I'm not reviewing based on comparisons. Whedon's JL is now dead to me, moot.

S P O I L E R S




+
- Technical marvel. Lots of pleasing sights & sounds. This is the DC mega movie I'd always wanted, & the active DCU doesn't even matter to me - ZSJL will go down for me now as standalone alongside Watchmen.
- I pretty much enjoyed every single character, including Darkseid & Martian Manhunter's short moments. Those 2 added welcome gravitas to an already dramatic arc of a film.
- Really liked & appreciated the specific parts/acts of the film titled & broken up. I watched 2hrs one night, the rest tonight, & didn't miss a beat. I wouldn't mind 3-4hr theatricals if we could see a return of 10 minute intermissions.
- Epilogue was fine, if not really needed because of vast unlikelihood of a true sequel. That's the comic book source genre for you though - the stories never really end, & it was good to have Lex & Joker around for appearances sake.
- Cyborg's character arc was quite well done.  Usually it's probably Batman getting the human angle stuff for this, that's been done. 

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- I still wish there was more Superman involvement. He's like some prize to be unwrapped to save the world, I wanted more.
- A fan of Aquaman all my life, it's a shame they didn't really have him do too many superpower specifics - then again, he's still just Aquaman I suppose.
- Stronger first half, it was far more nuanced & thought provoking than the second half's build towards action. Not a pure negative, just a take.

8/10

It's a shame it's not considered canon by WB.

8.

Probably would have given it a 9 if not for the epilogue. The Knightmare sequence was what I was most looking forward to and...well, it was disappointing. But I really adored this movie overall.

8/10

I have a ton of thoughts on it (might write up a formal review later), but all in all I really liked it.

A few random thoughts:

- Miller’s Flash is the equivalent of an annoying younger brother - really hard to like at first, then slowly wins your approval by the end

- Darkseid (and that flashback to his first invasion more specifically) was so cool. He had (has?) the potential to be just as great as, if not greater than, Thanos

- It had a lot of heart to it. You can tell how much this movie means to Snyder (for many reasons)

- The tunnel fight and final battle were both meh

- Leto’s Joker scene was *so* bad. I like the idea of a team-up when things go bad, but my goodness - Leto is so awful. Embarrassing to watch

- I didn’t mind the multiple endings. I thought it was a little clunky, but ultimately better than trying to be Marvel and put in a bunch of post-credit scenes

8/10

Good
- Flash is actually a useful character in this.
- Cyborg actually got some development in this.
- Batman is less of a puss in this version.
- Less meh jokes than the TC.
- Less bad CGI than the TC.
- Better action scenes.
- No baby mouth on Superman, yes this counts as bad CGI but fuck you it was that bad.
- Steppenwolf is much more interesting a villain.
- Darkseid.
- No weird mother bullshit with the mother boxes.
- Visually more stunning and epic feeling as a JL movie should.
- Brining Superman back is a more compelling scene.
- Better continuity with Cyborg from BVS.
- Wonder Woman is more of an inspiration than in the TC.
- The team feel more competent without Superman.
- Less forced in ethical/moral debate about reviving Superman.
- No suicidal Batman that's a plus.

Bad
- Superman is treated more as an assett than a person, dehumanises him where the TC did actually managed to humanise him more.
- No saving the people, it took less than 3 minutes to establish people may need saving in the movie and helped show the importance of that to the heroes over simply winning, repairing some of the damaged MOS did the the image of Superman in that regard.
- Lots of scenes are dragged out for no real reason and serve no purpose to the plot other than to allow more screen time to the actors, what does the saving Iris scene really do for the movie or Flash's character? And did the fire arrow scene need to be 2-3 minutes long? the TC did it in 30 seconds and nothing important was lost.
- Knightmare scene is bullshit and it's Snyder being self indulgent, this is clear by them dropping 2 F bombs in this one 6 minute scene and a lame reach around joke by Joker, all to tease a movie that there is no promise is even going to get entertained at being made.
- Less actual funny jokes, some are good but some were better in the TC or just don't exist at all despite potentially being good tension breakers at times, it's a 4 hour movie it can have more than 4-5 funny moments.
- Massive Darkseid plot holes regarding earth and trusting Steppenwolf.
- No Batman being smart and having Lois on hand to calm Clark down, Batman therefor looks dumber in this version.
- No he's more human than me scene, that was again a great way to soften Superman and reset his character going forward away from the dour and sullen version Snyder made him be.
- Aquaman is no more fleshed out really, he just gets more screen time which doesn't change anything so still a waste, has more moments in the TC imo.
- Too much slow-mo, stop it.

Overall
It's a better movie if still flawed, but it looks so much better, the editing is less choppy, the villains are more interesting, a couple of the heroes are better, some are the same and others are just different, whilst Superman is worse for wear for this movie, but overall it's a superior cut of the film, just too bad Snyder couldn't put his ego aside and keep the few scenes from the TC that if added to this films could have made it a near perfect JL movie for what it is, atleast imo, but still an 8/10 is not too shabby.

As well as name dropping Harley and the "Boy Wonder"...I felt exactly the same.