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Post by moviebuffbrad on Mar 30, 2021 3:46:46 GMT
Because the exact length of time we've been arguing is not relevant to how I played you into doing the very thing you think I'm an asshole for doing, and I can waste time digging through my memory and or posts to find the exact ground zero of our "not strong feelings" for each other and be right or wrong, but the only thing I would have accomplished is letting you obfuscate. As for Ignore, you do realize you replied to my post in my thread? But go for it. I asked about the length of time because your “for years” claim confused me. I genuinely had no clue what you were talking about. You’re making it sound like we have this long history as bitter enemies, and that I’ve supposedly been conspiring against you this entire time. It baffled me. Here’s the thing, I really don’t put that much thought into these arguments we have after they’re over. I was ready to forget about you until I noticed your rather immature dig at me. Yes, I’m aware I replied to you. I wasn’t saying I was going to put you on ignore. I was asking if that would be the best course of action at this point. I generally don’t block people. It's felt like years. I don't know the exact length for certain either. I hope this minor clarification lifts your spirit. You say that but our most recent argument grew out of you openly harboring resentment for me months after the one before that. I'm not in the habit of blocking people either, and I wasn't really thinking about it after the progress we made here. You asked if I was proud earlier - I feel I've proven my point, at least. You successfully deduced who I was talking about without me explicitly saying who I was talking about. You didn't like when I gaslighted you about it. Maybe you've even realized that me making repeated digs at you is a sign of dislike and should be treated as such. Seems we may have reached an understanding, in so far as you'll allow it to register.
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Post by hobowar on Mar 31, 2021 1:25:46 GMT
Snyder's trilogy is like having three uncles that molested you in completely different ways.
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Post by sdrew13163 on Mar 31, 2021 3:50:28 GMT
Snyder's trilogy is like having three uncles that molested you in completely different ways. You’re so against Snyder, I think you might have a thing for him, big guy.
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Post by hobowar on Mar 31, 2021 12:19:53 GMT
Snyder's trilogy is like having three uncles that molested you in completely different ways. You’re so against Snyder, I think you might have a thing for him, big guy. 😍💪🍆
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Apr 1, 2021 22:30:40 GMT
You’re so against Snyder, I think you might have a thing for him, big guy. 😍💪🍆 Easy there hobo, according to Snyder there's nothing scarier in the world than a buff guy who wants to fuck him. www.newnownext.com/300s-director-admits-using-homosexuality-to-scare-20-year-old-men/03/2007/--- He also said he doesn't a problem if people interpret his movies as homophobic, so if certain people were to still have an issue with someone for doing so they can get off the cross now.
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Post by hobowar on Apr 1, 2021 22:41:08 GMT
Yeeeaaah, but on the other hand...
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Apr 1, 2021 22:56:30 GMT
Yeeeaaah, but on the other hand... "No homo".
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Post by thisguy4000 on Apr 1, 2021 22:58:13 GMT
Let me guess, moviebuffbrad is still obsessing over me? Well, at least he didn’t send me a PM begging me to respond to him like he did that one time.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Apr 1, 2021 23:50:59 GMT
Let me guess, moviebuffbrad is still obsessing over me? Well, at least he didn’t send me a PM begging me to respond to him like he did that one time. "Begging", heh. That time I sent you a friendly PM to settle our differences really triggered you. This is the third time you've alluded to it. Guess I should have stuck to being a "confrontational asshole", it certainly gets your attention. At least you took my advice and got some new tricks. Not that "ignoring" someone but still finding ways to respond is new, but it's different for you. Say, if I'm being Ignored, how were you able to see this thread? Mmmm, how's that bait taste?
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Post by thisguy4000 on Apr 2, 2021 0:04:59 GMT
Let me guess, moviebuffbrad is still obsessing over me? Well, at least he didn’t send me a PM begging me to respond to him like he did that one time. "Begging", heh. That time I sent you a friendly PM to settle our differences really triggered you. This is the third time you've alluded to it. Guess I should have stuck to being a "confrontational asshole", it certainly gets your attention. At least you took my advice and got some new tricks. Not that "ignoring" someone but still finding ways to respond is new, but it's different for you. Say, if I'm being Ignored, how were you able to see this thread? Mmmm, how's that bait taste? It didn’t “trigger” me. I didn’t think anything of it at the time, other than that I didn’t understand why you assumed that I called 2001 boring. I was civil with you in that PM. The reason I’ve been bringing it up is because I’m starting to get the impression that you’re obsessed with me. Every time it seems like we’re done, you just keep bringing it back. It’s so ridiculously petty. Why do you do it? What are you trying to accomplish? By the way, it’s funny how you brought up that quote from Snyder about why Xerxes was portrayed the way he was, as if that was some kind of “gotcha” on me. I remember seeing that quote years ago. My stance on that quote was always that Snyder wanted to give his antagonist raped undertones for the sake of edginess. I never saw that as proof that he despises gay people. Just that he was an edgelord who liked to push buttons. Todd Phillips is in the same category, but you still think Joker is a pretty woke movie. Of course, I’m well aware that you will always disagree with me on the kind of person Zack Snyder is, and honestly, that’s fine. Neither of us knows Snyder personally, so we have no way of knowing for sure what he thinks. I just personally have trouble believing that the guy who cast an openly queer actor as the Flash specifically because he was impressed by their performance in Perks of Being a Wallflower flat out despises gay people, but maybe I’m wrong.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Apr 2, 2021 0:45:08 GMT
"Begging", heh. That time I sent you a friendly PM to settle our differences really triggered you. This is the third time you've alluded to it. Guess I should have stuck to being a "confrontational asshole", it certainly gets your attention. At least you took my advice and got some new tricks. Not that "ignoring" someone but still finding ways to respond is new, but it's different for you. Say, if I'm being Ignored, how were you able to see this thread? Mmmm, how's that bait taste? It didn’t “trigger” me. I didn’t think anything of it at the time, other than that I didn’t understand why you assumed that I called 2001 boring. I was civil with you in that PM. The reason I’ve been bringing it up is because I’m starting to get the impression that you’re obsessed with me. Every time it seems like we’re done, you just keep bringing it back. It’s so ridiculously petty. Why do you do it? What are you trying to accomplish? By the way, it’s funny how you brought up that quote from Snyder about why Xerxes was portrayed the way he was, as if that was some kind of “gotcha” on me. I remember seeing that quote years ago. My stance on that quote was always that Snyder wanted to give his antagonist raped undertones for the sake of edginess. I never saw that as proof that he despises gay people. Just that he was an edgelord who liked to push buttons. Todd Phillips is in the same category, but you still think Joker is a pretty woke movie. Of course, I’m well aware that you will always disagree with me on the kind of person Zack Snyder is, and honestly, that’s fine. Neither of us knows Snyder personally, so we have no way of knowing for sure what he thinks. I just personally have trouble believing that the guy who cast an openly queer actor as the Flash specifically because he was impressed by their performance in Perks of Being a Wallflower flat out despises gay people, but maybe I’m wrong. Eh, calm down Mariah. I don't know if you're misrepresenting things on purpose or genuinely this neurotic, but let me remind you that we'd barely spoken and certainly hadn't argued for months up until that ridiculous FG shitshow a few days ago that you started. I guess your definition of a done argument is pausing it and then exploding at me months later with your pent up, unresolved issues while you expect me to be civil in the meantime. The only "gotcha" was that Snyder literally said he didn't have a problem if I or anyone else interpreted his movie(s) that way, so your simp campaign has been pointless. We can disagree on our interpretation, my problem is that you basically said I'm a weird asshole for disagreeing.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Apr 2, 2021 0:55:18 GMT
It didn’t “trigger” me. I didn’t think anything of it at the time, other than that I didn’t understand why you assumed that I called 2001 boring. I was civil with you in that PM. The reason I’ve been bringing it up is because I’m starting to get the impression that you’re obsessed with me. Every time it seems like we’re done, you just keep bringing it back. It’s so ridiculously petty. Why do you do it? What are you trying to accomplish? By the way, it’s funny how you brought up that quote from Snyder about why Xerxes was portrayed the way he was, as if that was some kind of “gotcha” on me. I remember seeing that quote years ago. My stance on that quote was always that Snyder wanted to give his antagonist raped undertones for the sake of edginess. I never saw that as proof that he despises gay people. Just that he was an edgelord who liked to push buttons. Todd Phillips is in the same category, but you still think Joker is a pretty woke movie. Of course, I’m well aware that you will always disagree with me on the kind of person Zack Snyder is, and honestly, that’s fine. Neither of us knows Snyder personally, so we have no way of knowing for sure what he thinks. I just personally have trouble believing that the guy who cast an openly queer actor as the Flash specifically because he was impressed by their performance in Perks of Being a Wallflower flat out despises gay people, but maybe I’m wrong. Eh, calm down Mariah. I don't know if you're misrepresenting things on purpose or genuinely this neurotic, but let me to remind you that we'd barely spoken and certainly hadn't argued for months up until that ridiculous FG shitshow a few days ago that you started. I guess your definition of a done argument is pausing it and then exploding at me months later with your pent up, unresolved issues while you expect me to be civil in the meantime. The only "gotcha" was that Snyder literally said he didn't have a problem if I or anyone else interpreted his movie(s) that way, so your simp campaign has been pointless. We can disagree on our interpretation, my problem is that you basically said I'm a weird asshole for disagreeing. We had a pretty heated argument on this board about a month prior to that “shitshow on FG.” Of course, I assumed that we had buried the hatchet after that point. When I made that Lindsay Ellis thread, I sure as hell didn’t make it with the intention of getting into another flame war with you. You were the one who responded to that thread with your two cents, and then you specifically asked me to address your claim that Ellis endorsed harassment against D&D. Let me reiterate, you made the claim that Lindsay Ellis endorses harassment, which I initially ignored, and then you repeated it because you wanted me to address it. How does that translate to me “starting it” like you claim? Really, now I’m a “simp”? It’s funny that you’re accusing me of having pent up issues with you, when you’re the one who’s been throwing around most of the ad hominem attacks here.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Apr 2, 2021 1:09:36 GMT
Eh, calm down Mariah. I don't know if you're misrepresenting things on purpose or genuinely this neurotic, but let me to remind you that we'd barely spoken and certainly hadn't argued for months up until that ridiculous FG shitshow a few days ago that you started. I guess your definition of a done argument is pausing it and then exploding at me months later with your pent up, unresolved issues while you expect me to be civil in the meantime. The only "gotcha" was that Snyder literally said he didn't have a problem if I or anyone else interpreted his movie(s) that way, so your simp campaign has been pointless. We can disagree on our interpretation, my problem is that you basically said I'm a weird asshole for disagreeing. We had a pretty heated argument on this board about a month prior to that “shitshow on FG.” Of course, I assumed that we had buried the hatchet after that point. When I made that Lindsay Ellis thread, I sure as hell didn’t make it with the intention of getting into another flame war with you. You were the one who responded to that thread with your two cents, and then you specifically asked me to address your claim that Ellis endorsed harassment against D&D. Let me reiterate, you made the claim that Lindsay Ellis endorses harassment, which I initially ignored, and then you repeated it because you wanted me to address it. How does that translate to me “starting it” like you claim? Really, now I’m a “simp”? It’s funny that you’re accusing me of having pent up issues with you, when you’re the one who’s been throwing around most of the ad hominem attacks here. Then you argued with one cent and ignored the other. I just pointed it out without really "asking" you to address it. You, on the other hand, repeatedly asked me to send you the timestamp so you could get on with your pre-prepared disagreement. I don't think you know what ad hominem means. You may have a different word for it, but defending the honor of Zack Snyder has been your position in nearly every argument we've ever had. I would think that now that we have an official statement from Snyder that it's okay to have uncharitable opinions about his movies, we can bury the hatchet officially.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Apr 2, 2021 1:26:16 GMT
We had a pretty heated argument on this board about a month prior to that “shitshow on FG.” Of course, I assumed that we had buried the hatchet after that point. When I made that Lindsay Ellis thread, I sure as hell didn’t make it with the intention of getting into another flame war with you. You were the one who responded to that thread with your two cents, and then you specifically asked me to address your claim that Ellis endorsed harassment against D&D. Let me reiterate, you made the claim that Lindsay Ellis endorses harassment, which I initially ignored, and then you repeated it because you wanted me to address it. How does that translate to me “starting it” like you claim? Really, now I’m a “simp”? It’s funny that you’re accusing me of having pent up issues with you, when you’re the one who’s been throwing around most of the ad hominem attacks here. Then you argued with one cent and ignored the other. I just pointed it out without really "asking" you to address it. You, on the other hand, repeatedly asked me to send you the timestamp so you could get on with your pre-prepared disagreement. I don't think you know what ad hominem means. You may have a different word for it, but defending the honor of Zack Snyder has been your position in nearly every argument we've ever had. I would think that now that we have an official statement from Snyder that it's okay to have uncharitable opinions about his movies, we can bury the hatchet officially. I asked you to send me the timestamp because I wanted to know what the hell you were talking about. And the only reason I wanted to know what the hell you were talking about was because you accused me of willfully ignoring it. You made a personal attack on me by calling me a “simp” for Zack Snyder. You’ve constantly accused me of being some Zack Snyder fanboy who lives and breathes for him, even though as I keep telling you, I really don’t care for his movies. You have frequently brought him up in response to me, even in threads that had nothing to do with him. For example, when I commented on a thread about Ricky Gervais by calling him an edgelord, you cheekily responded to me by bringing up Zack Snyder. By your own logic, I guess that makes you a simp for Ricky Gervais. Look, I’m tired. Contrary to what you might think, I don’t have any interest in antagonizing you, and I certainly don’t want to do it over some guy who makes dumb action movies, some of which I have zero interest in ever watching. If you want to put this feud behind us once and for all, I’d be perfectly willing to do so.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Apr 2, 2021 2:08:03 GMT
It’s,,, ok
Alright the good is a lot of the action scenes are engaging and the characters are likable for the most part. I especially enjoyed steppenwolf’s first appearance as a legitimately intense confrontation and later his fight with Mera had some clever uses of her water power.
But there just isn’t much going on here. And there definitely isn’t enough to justify four hours. I guarantee you could cut 90 minutes out of this without losing a thing. All that happens here is a bad guy shows up to steal 3 items for his boss and a team gathers to stop him. That’s it. And the new character introductions don’t justify the time either. Nearly every scene goes on twice as long as it needs to or could be cut completely.
Case in point, Wonder Woman’s introduction is an 8 minute long heist side quest. Now 8 minutes is way too long as it is, but it’s even worse than that. The heist is being conducted by a terrorist group who has no other goal but to blow up the entire area. Soooooo why the heist at all? Just blow it up in the street. And even worse than that is they put the bomb on a timer. Again, there’s absolutely no reason for this. Just blow up the bomb. To cap it off WW herself is shown being fast enough to block every bullet out of a machine gun, but for no reason can’t react in time to stop the guy from reloading and instead forces a bunch of children to watch her blast a guy to death through a concrete wall that rains down upon innocent people outside. WTF?!? It’s a remarkably stupid scene that serves zero function within the film, and just makes me wonder if Zach thinks about anything at all.
Another great example is Martian Manhunter. He appears exactly twice and if you cut both, nothing changes. It’s that pointless and the single biggest waste of a character introduction I’ve ever seen. Sure you can make it make technical sense, but there’s no reason to introduce him if you’re only going to give him two small scenes that could be cut completely from the film.
But Steppenwolf himself is maybe the worst. You know a movie doesn’t need to be four hours when the only backstory they give for the main villain is that he’s being punished for,,, something. Seriously the movie never gets into anything that’s going on with him.
And then even worse it drops this “twist” that old Step has found the anti life equation Darkseid was looking for. But that isn’t cool as much as it just raises questions about how this is a surprise to anybody since they showed us Darkseid discovering it on the same planet in a flashback, and no indication as to why he wouldn’t know this now. You’re left to invent reasons as to how he forgot such an important place. Yet again, it’s just awkward storytelling.
There’s another bizarrely staged scene where Flash saves a girl he had a moment with from a car wreck. Great scene,,, except Zack in his utter genius shows her pulling away from a curb just moments before meaning her car was moving maybe 10mph tops, and yet he tricks you with slow motion into watching it flip end over end. Just stage it another way so that the visual makes sense. And also the girl never comes back up in 4 hours so I don’t know why we even bothered. What is this 4 hours needed for?
Another one was the establishing shot of the Amazon prison they ultimately sacrifice dozens of warriors in to entomb steppenwolf. Epic scene right? The problem is they show it having easily escapable open windows at the top. Seriously I watched that saying, so he’s just getting out of those right, and immediately after I’d said that he jumps up on shore. Why would these ancient “wise” characters have such an elaborate trap with such an obvious flaw?
Then there’s the flash slow mo taps the sword back to WW shot. Looks awesome. But that’s the kind of thing you show when she needs it right away, and spoilers, she didn’t. Just a really pointless shot. And the whole film feels this way. It’s just stuff happening and you can’t trust that any of it matters or has any weight.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Apr 2, 2021 2:24:11 GMT
Then you argued with one cent and ignored the other. I just pointed it out without really "asking" you to address it. You, on the other hand, repeatedly asked me to send you the timestamp so you could get on with your pre-prepared disagreement. I don't think you know what ad hominem means. You may have a different word for it, but defending the honor of Zack Snyder has been your position in nearly every argument we've ever had. I would think that now that we have an official statement from Snyder that it's okay to have uncharitable opinions about his movies, we can bury the hatchet officially. I asked you to send me the timestamp because I wanted to know what the hell you were talking about. And the only reason I wanted to know what the hell you were talking about was because you accused me of willfully ignoring it. You made a personal attack on me by calling me a “simp” for Zack Snyder. You’ve constantly accused me of being some Zack Snyder fanboy who lives and breathes for him, even though as I keep telling you, I really don’t care for his movies. You have frequently brought him up in response to me, even in threads that had nothing to do with him. For example, when I commented on a thread about Ricky Gervais by calling him an edgelord, you cheekily responded to me by bringing up Zack Snyder. By your own logic, I guess that makes you a simp for Ricky Gervais. Look, I’m tired. Contrary to what you might think, I don’t have any interest in antagonizing you, and I certainly don’t want to do it over some guy who makes dumb action movies, some of which I have zero interest in ever watching. If you want to put this feud behind us once and for all, I’d be perfectly willing to do so. Whatever your motivations are, defending Snyder comes up a lot, likewise in unrelated threads. In the Lindsay thread where I too had thought we'd previously buried the hatchet, you used my opinion of him to discredit me which is what sparked the antagonism. I don't bring up Gervais very often and don't even remember that interaction, so it's not quite the same logic, though I am willing to call myself a fan of him. Sure, let's do it. You're not a Snyder fanboy, and I'm entitled to think his films are homophobic and he himself has no problem with it. Was there anything else?
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Apr 2, 2021 2:39:35 GMT
But Steppenwolf himself is maybe the worst. You know a movie doesn’t need to be four hours when the only backstory they give for the main villain is that he’s being punished for,,, something. Seriously the movie never gets into anything that’s going on with him. And then even worse it drops this “twist” that old Step has found the anti life equation Darkseid was looking for. But that isn’t cool as much as it just raises questions about how this is a surprise to anybody since they showed us Darkseid discovering it on the same planet in a flashback, and no indication as to why he wouldn’t know this now. You’re left to invent reasons as to how he forgot such an important place. Yet again, it’s just awkward storytelling. Didn't he lose Darkseid a world and owe him 50,000 or something in return, or was that the Theatrical? I was a bit confused about how Darkseid forgot where the ALE was as well. I think, and thisguy can probably correct me here, that the ancient battle sequence was all originally Steppenwolf as per the theatrical cut, and Snyder changed it to Darkseid for this version because he wanted a chance to show Darkseid in battle. Of course, it doesn't make much sense because not only does he get amnesia, but it didn't really do him any favors as a threatening final boss. It'd be like Thanos getting his ass kicked by Red Skull in an Avengers 1 flashback. The girl Flash saves was a setup for his love interest in his standalone movie, if that ever happens.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Apr 2, 2021 2:40:29 GMT
I asked you to send me the timestamp because I wanted to know what the hell you were talking about. And the only reason I wanted to know what the hell you were talking about was because you accused me of willfully ignoring it. You made a personal attack on me by calling me a “simp” for Zack Snyder. You’ve constantly accused me of being some Zack Snyder fanboy who lives and breathes for him, even though as I keep telling you, I really don’t care for his movies. You have frequently brought him up in response to me, even in threads that had nothing to do with him. For example, when I commented on a thread about Ricky Gervais by calling him an edgelord, you cheekily responded to me by bringing up Zack Snyder. By your own logic, I guess that makes you a simp for Ricky Gervais. Look, I’m tired. Contrary to what you might think, I don’t have any interest in antagonizing you, and I certainly don’t want to do it over some guy who makes dumb action movies, some of which I have zero interest in ever watching. If you want to put this feud behind us once and for all, I’d be perfectly willing to do so. Whatever your motivations are, defending Snyder comes up a lot, likewise in unrelated threads. In the Lindsay thread where I too had thought we'd previously buried the hatchet, you used my opinion of him to discredit me which is what sparked the antagonism. I don't bring up Gervais very often and don't even remember that interaction, so it's not quite the same logic, though I am willing to call myself a fan of him. Sure, let's do it. You're not a Snyder fanboy, and I'm entitled to think his films are homophobic and he himself has no problem with it. Was there anything else? For the record, I wasn’t trying to use your opinions of Zack Snyder to discredit you. I said that I had reason to be skeptical over what you were saying, because I was under the impression that you had a tendency to misinterpret things, such as with my 2001 thread. I wasn’t specifically referring to your opinions on Zack Snyder. As for why he comes up a lot, well, I do spend a lot of time on the DC board, so it’s kind of impossible not to talk about him. If I cared that much about him, I probably would’ve celebrated what happened to Lindsay Ellis, since she has said some pretty nasty things about him. Anyway. Cool. Hopefully this is can be the end of it.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Apr 2, 2021 2:47:12 GMT
But Steppenwolf himself is maybe the worst. You know a movie doesn’t need to be four hours when the only backstory they give for the main villain is that he’s being punished for,,, something. Seriously the movie never gets into anything that’s going on with him. And then even worse it drops this “twist” that old Step has found the anti life equation Darkseid was looking for. But that isn’t cool as much as it just raises questions about how this is a surprise to anybody since they showed us Darkseid discovering it on the same planet in a flashback, and no indication as to why he wouldn’t know this now. You’re left to invent reasons as to how he forgot such an important place. Yet again, it’s just awkward storytelling. Didn't he lose Darkseid a world and owe him 50,000 or something in return, or was that the Theatrical? I was a bit confused about how Darkseid forgot where the ALE was as well. I think, and thisguy can probably correct me here, that the ancient battle sequence was all originally Steppenwolf as per the theatrical cut, and Snyder changed it to Darkseid for this version because he wanted a chance to show Darkseid in battle. Of course, it doesn't make much sense because not only does he get amnesia, but it didn't really do him any favors as a threatening final boss. It'd be like Thanos getting his ass kicked by Red Skull in an Avengers 1 flashback. The girl Flash saves was a setup for his love interest in his standalone movie, if that ever happens. The Snyder Cut states that Steppenwolf owes a debt to Darkseid because he betrayed him in the past, and him conquering thousands of worlds is supposed to be penance. As for whether or not Darkseid replaced Steppenwolf in the history lesson, that seems unlikely. Back in 2019, Snyder showed black and photos of Darkseid on Earth during the history lesson scene.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Apr 2, 2021 3:33:14 GMT
Didn't he lose Darkseid a world and owe him 50,000 or something in return, or was that the Theatrical? I was a bit confused about how Darkseid forgot where the ALE was as well. I think, and thisguy can probably correct me here, that the ancient battle sequence was all originally Steppenwolf as per the theatrical cut, and Snyder changed it to Darkseid for this version because he wanted a chance to show Darkseid in battle. Of course, it doesn't make much sense because not only does he get amnesia, but it didn't really do him any favors as a threatening final boss. It'd be like Thanos getting his ass kicked by Red Skull in an Avengers 1 flashback. The girl Flash saves was a setup for his love interest in his standalone movie, if that ever happens. The Snyder Cut states that Steppenwolf owes a debt to Darkseid because he betrayed him in the past, and him conquering thousands of worlds is supposed to be penance. As for whether or not Darkseid replaced Steppenwolf in the history lesson, that seems unlikely. Back in 2019, Snyder showed black and photos of Darkseid on Earth during the history lesson scene. I see. Do you have any idea why Darkseid forgot then?
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