Sleepy Hollow 1999

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Sleepy Hollow 1999 May 13, 2017 2:15:01 GMT

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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on May 13, 2017 2:15:01 GMT

I didn't care for it when it came out but did see it in a cinema since I was a fan of the Disney version.
I liked it better the last time I watched it (I have the dvd).

Pondering the theme of the movie.
In the original story, you have a town threatened by an alien force(the ghost of a Hessian soldier).
They also have to contend with a newcomer--Ichabod Crane---who is a male gold digger.

In the Burton film, Crane is the good guy, it is the town that is corrupt (the men anyway).
Even the headless horseman isn't so bad--since he is being manipulated by the witch woman--who was a local born peasant-seeking revenge for being evicted into poverty by the wealthy landowners.

The daughter of the wealthy landowner gets to go to the big city, while the witch woman is sent to Hell.

What is the moral of the story?

It doesn't sound very socially friendly. Maybe to a Wall Street hedge fund manager.

Caligula: Do you think I'm mad?...Sometimes I think that I'm going mad. Do you — be honest with me — has that thought ever crossed your mind?

Claudius: Never. Never. The idea is preposterous. You set the standard of sanity for the whole world.

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Sleepy Hollow 1999 May 13, 2017 2:20:29 GMT

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Post by moviemouth on May 13, 2017 2:20:29 GMT

I'm the opposite. I use to like the movie but it doesn't hold up very well on re-watch. I think the Burton-isms are in overdrive here and it becomes a bit much. I also think they did a bit too much stretching of the story and it doesn't quite work.

The moral of the story? Don't steal people's heads and make them into undead slaves.

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Sleepy Hollow 1999 May 13, 2017 2:24:26 GMT

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Post by bonerxmas on May 13, 2017 2:24:26 GMT

the moral: out of the realm of logical shades, where the souls of all reality dwell, we move into the sphere of external existence, where concepts take on material form

why does the idea externalzie itself? to become actual, but the actuality of nature is imperfect, unsuited to the idea, only the precondition of a better actuality, the actuality of spirit, which has been the aim from the begining, reason becomes nature in order to become spirit, the idea goes forth from itself in order to return to itself again enriched, only teh man who once has been in a foreign land knows his home correctly

als flehe ich Euch an, mich auszulachen, in wahnsinniger Verzweiflung

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Sleepy Hollow 1999 May 13, 2017 4:15:46 GMT

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Post by kingkoopa on May 13, 2017 4:15:46 GMT

The highlight for me was always the supporting characters. There are some guys with a lot of chops here.

I found Burton's adaptation of the story interesting, but not in the spirit of its source material. Burton's is very much the story of a skeptic who might not be wise to be so skeptical. I like that kind of arc, and I think it was...alright...here, but nothing groundbreaking. This seemed like the kind of story Burton could knock out of the park, but I think it missed a couple notes. I wish some of the vibe from the scenes of the witch in "Big Fish" (which I loved) could have made an appearance here.

This was also the point where I got a little tired of the Johnny Depp/Tim Burton combo. Depp is a great actor (check out "Donnie Brasco"), but he got a little typecast as the wild-haired eccentric. Burton is a great director, and Depp a superb actor. I think they just kind of fell into a pattern. To bring up "Big Fish" again, I thought Burton handled fantastic actors (to name just two) Ewan MacGregor and Danny DeVito excellently. He's made some great ones, but I think Burton's magnum opus is yet to come.

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Deleted Deleted Member @Deleted Posts: 0	Sleepy Hollow 1999 May 13, 2017 9:19:17 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Deleted on May 13, 2017 9:19:17 GMT Been years since i saw it. But i liked it

Dayodead Senior Member @dayodead Posts: 1,161	Sleepy Hollow 1999 May 13, 2017 10:07:08 GMT leesilm likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Dayodead on May 13, 2017 10:07:08 GMT Liked it in the theater when released and like it now...Burton made some interesting tweaks to the story and the acting all round is top notch..

Sleepy Hollow 1999

Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on May 13, 2017 2:15:01 GMT

Post by moviemouth on May 13, 2017 2:20:29 GMT

Post by bonerxmas on May 13, 2017 2:24:26 GMT

Post by kingkoopa on May 13, 2017 4:15:46 GMT

Post by Deleted on May 13, 2017 9:19:17 GMT

Post by Dayodead on May 13, 2017 10:07:08 GMT