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Post by twothousandonemark on Mar 21, 2021 1:09:43 GMT
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As a non-DCEU fan, admirer, etc, this ZSJL film actually does quench my DC JL thirst rather well This will sit nicely on my blu-ray shelf, & in my mind's eye, nicely alongside Watchmen as a great standalone comic book movie.
DCEU fans, Whedon fans, revisionist detractors, 4 hour movie naysayers, &/or others... may feel differently. I'm none of those.
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Post by onethreetwo on Mar 21, 2021 2:36:39 GMT
What I was most impressed with is just how well the whole thing flows. Also just how entertained I was the entire time. Surprisingly I watched it all the way through in one sitting, only taking four short pee and snack breaks, and it never felt like it was dragging. I didn't even hate the Joker scene at the end like a lot of people did. I feel like it fit. Zack Snyder has totally redeemed himself after making the disastrous Batman v Superman. I am very, very impressed.
8/10
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Post by Eλευθερί on Mar 21, 2021 20:30:25 GMT
runtime 4 hours 2 minutes?
I don't think so ...
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Post by Nalkarj on Mar 30, 2021 15:22:51 GMT
My numerical rating would be somewhere around a 6-7, probably. The surfeit of false endings is a major negative, and (as others have written on these boards) the theatrical cut handled Superman better. But Snyder’s direction is, for the most part, remarkable: Aquaman walking out on a pier as waves crash over him and Flash rescuing the girl he likes are wonderful, memorable set pieces. Surprisingly, the best characters are second-stringers Cyborg and Flash (the actors playing both parts turn in heartfelt performances and get a lot of screen time). As with nearly every Snyder movie I’ve seen, it’s relentlessly imperfect, but for all that it’s a personal, idiosyncratic work of art at a time and in a genre in which impersonality rules.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Apr 13, 2021 22:08:18 GMT
7
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Post by Vits on Jul 1, 2021 8:24:28 GMT
When JUSTICE LEAGUE came out in 2017, people said that Joss Whedon was to blame for the finished product because of his involvement, but now we know the truth. I'm referring to his creative contributions, not him being a piece of shit on set. A director's cut (that's supposed to show us Zack Snyder's true vision) has been released and it confirms that Joss didn't write all of the comedic moments during his re-shoots, and the ones he did write were just an extension of what was already there (which makes sense considering the (briefer) comic relief moments in MAN OF STEEL and BATMAN V SUPERMAN). Hell, there's even a couple of jokes in this version that didn't end up in the theatrical cut. I think it's better to break this down into 4 categories: 1) Same pros: The overall plot (which is fun) hasn't changed. 2) Same cons: The overall plot (which is unmemorable and it doesn't live up to the hype of seeing this legendary team on screen) hasn't changed. Too many characters are crammed in, so they're not all properly developed. Zack makes so many individual moments feel like the most dramatic event in the world to the point of exhaustion. 3) New pros: The fact that it's 362 minutes long and doesn't feel like a drag is impressive! The multiple subplots don't feel rushed anymore. Some scenes contain new songs that fit well, while others don't have any music anymore (which highlights the intensity of the moment). More time is dedicated to Cyborg at the beginning in a way that makes them even more likable than before. The Flash gets a brand new scene where he's at a pet store. He sees a young woman in danger and he saves her, while showing that he knows how to treat animals. Steppenwolf now has scenes where he and Darkseid (his leader) discuss the evil plan. Even though they're clichéd, I was so invested because Steppenwolf was showing a surprising amount of emotion. This is the first time the words "Wonder Woman" are uttered by a character, making her name official in-universe (wait, should this be a con since it took so long for this to happen?). There's a new epilogue that sets future movies up. I know that has annoyed people in the past, but it's done in a smarter way. Instead of hinting at what's to come, they show it. And because "it" is something that destroys the world, we see our heroes at probably their lowest point, so we feel the urge to find out how they arrived at this point. Not since a certain episode of LOST has foreshadowing (if you can even call it that) been this exciting! 4) New cons: Some scenes contain new songs that don't fit. More time is dedicated to Aquaman at the beginning without much purpose. Do you remember his scene with Mera that explained his past? Now he also gets a scene with Vulko (a character that actually debuted in his solo movie) that's not different enough to avoid redundancy. The Flash gets a brand new scene where he's at a pet store. He sees a young woman in danger and takes more time than needed to save her. Sure, being cocky about his powers is part of the character, but if you're going to show him doing other things, can't they at least be things that matter?! Something other than admiring the woman's beauty?! How can you even feel smitten in a situation like this?! When Steppenwolf appears in Themyscira, the Amazons try to trap him in a chamber while Queen Hippolyta tries to protect the Mother Box. This time, said chamber falls from a cliff, but Steppenwolf and his Parademons emerge from the water. Look, this is the introduction of the villain. Anyone with half a brain knows that he won't be stopped so early in the story. This was trimmed in the theatrical cut (Steppenwolf simply destroys the doors of the chamber and exits) and it should've stayed that way. When he sees that Steppenwolf is about to kill his father, Cyborg attacks. This time, he lets his emotions take over, while he was a lot more in control in the theatrical cut. There's a new epilogue that's ruined once we discover that it's Batman having a nightmare. I know that doesn't mean it won't happen for real (it's most likely a premonition), but presenting it as a twist (especially one of the worst of its kind) made me roll my eyes. Not to mention that the image of him waking up makes the scene lose momentum. It gets worse once an alien (and future teammate) named Martian Manhunter shows up. Even though Batman has seen all of kinds of beings by this point, I still don't buy how he reacts so calmly to this visitor. Actually, his chill attitude implies that the nightmare didn't have any effect on him, taking away all the dramatic weight. As you can see, it's all very balanced out, which is why I'm giving it the same grade. 7/10 ------------------------------------- You can read comments of other movies in my blog.
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Jul 6, 2021 12:42:15 GMT
10/10
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Post by Sarge on Jul 7, 2021 0:03:18 GMT
Good movie, consistent, entertaining, 7/10
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