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Post by london777 on Mar 22, 2021 0:05:09 GMT
I was hoping for Kardashiana myself - the national flag will be a selfie image of Biden in a thong I see what you mean about your posting first and thinking afterwards.  Whereas your father is clearly a man of sound judgment.
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Post by london777 on Mar 22, 2021 0:19:42 GMT
1 Not sure how British this one is (wicki suggests mongrel Mid Atlantic status) 2 Amazing score (Carter Burwell), 3 resurrected Colin Farrell Seems to be preponderantly British/Irish. Only the composer and half the bean-counters are American. 2 I did not notice the score. Coming from me, that is a compliment. But the name Burwell did remind me how much MacDonough is influenced by the Coen Bros. Three Billboards (etc) could well be a Coen movie. 3 Explain. Did he have a career hiatus or something?
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Post by Prime etc. on Mar 22, 2021 0:28:01 GMT
How about Edgar Wallace films? Would they be considered British? Or German?
Some of them do involve criminal gangs.
Maybe not realistic ones but they are often set in London etc.
Oh I got one!
HELL IS A CITY 1960
I watched that again recently.
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Post by london777 on Mar 22, 2021 1:01:42 GMT
How about Edgar Wallace films? Would they be considered British? Or German? Some of them do involve criminal gangs. Maybe not realistic ones but they are often set in London etc. I understand films from Edgar Wallace's writings have been made in England, in the USA, and in Germany, so the former would qualify if about gangsters. Is there an Edgar Wallace expert in the house? Salzman?
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Post by timshelboy on Mar 22, 2021 18:36:51 GMT
1 Not sure how British this one is (wicki suggests mongrel Mid Atlantic status) 2 Amazing score (Carter Burwell), 3 resurrected Colin Farrell Seems to be preponderantly British/Irish. Only the composer and half the bean-counters are American. 2 I did not notice the score. Coming from me, that is a compliment. But the name Burwell did remind me how much MacDonough is influenced by the Coen Bros. Three Billboards (etc) could well be a Coen movie. 3 Explain. Did he have a career hiatus or something? He had worse than a hiatus - he had a big budget floperoo called ALEXANDER as his first title role (sample review "the only highlights are the ones in Colin Farrel's hair" ). IN BRUGES restored his credibility with critics and he has done well since. mostly eschewing superhero franchises and the traditional "leading man" fare. Bean counters are important - at least they think so ,,,,its called show business....
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Post by timshelboy on Mar 22, 2021 18:44:37 GMT
"Gangster" may be overstating the case with my final thought but I think the fact that the character was dating Joan Collins proves conclusively that he's a wrong'un Some great films mentioned, another a fan of Sidney Tafler and Wide Boy the British term used to describe ... a wheeler and dealer a petty criminal who works by guile rather than force. I made mention of this back on the Re-branding the title thread... Cosh Boy (1953) UK Dir. Lewis Gilbert Juvenile delinquent in the backstreets of London Roy (James Kenny) becomes The Slasher in the USA... In the UK Cosh is a kind of truncheon used to hit someone with the sensationalist American poster even has a razor which is not seen in the film !   Sydney Tafler one of my top Brit character actors from classic period -  He even manages to steal the show in the superb IT ALWAYS RAINS ON SUNDAY (not really a gangster flic but I doubt you'd get any complaints if you included it in the final programme) Grateful to Network dvds for releasing all this golden age stuff on bare bones budget label. I squealed for joy when I saw WIDE BOY had got an official release. The Network stuff Often £3 a pop in FOPP at Cambridge Circus. 
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Post by Stammerhead on Mar 22, 2021 19:04:02 GMT
Payroll (1961) is another gangster film set in Newcastle but for some reason nobody has a Geordie accent. Apart from that it’s a neat little thriller with gritty location work.  |
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Post by timshelboy on Mar 22, 2021 19:13:26 GMT
How about Edgar Wallace films? Would they be considered British? Or German? Some of them do involve criminal gangs. Maybe not realistic ones but they are often set in London etc. I understand films from Edgar Wallace's writings have been made in England, in the USA, and in Germany, so the former would qualify if about gangsters. Is there an Edgar Wallace expert in the house? Salzman? This is from Edgar Wallace and is good fun - Dora Bryan too! - but the villain is a suave international mystery man rather than a crook with mates called Bugsy and Mumbles, so not sure it gangster enough.  I think some of the 60s ones were UK/German co- productions - Klaus Kinski spent some of his juvenalia in them.
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Post by Prime etc. on Mar 22, 2021 19:23:17 GMT
Payroll (1961) is another gangster film set in Newcastle but for some reason nobody has a Geordie accent. Apart from that it’s a neat little thriller with gritty location work. I knew someone from there online and I joked I could call her up on the phone and she said I wouldn't be able to understand what she was saying. She feigned anger that people were stealing bits of Hadrian's Wall.
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Post by Stammerhead on Mar 22, 2021 21:22:02 GMT
Payroll (1961) is another gangster film set in Newcastle but for some reason nobody has a Geordie accent. Apart from that it’s a neat little thriller with gritty location work. I knew someone from there online and I joked I could call her up on the phone and she said I wouldn't be able to understand what she was saying. She feigned anger that people were stealing bits of Hadrian's Wall.
My mum said that during wartime her foreman was from Newcastle and the factory girls kept asking him questions just to hear his accent. It was almost like a foreign language to most Londoners.
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Post by london777 on Mar 23, 2021 2:16:25 GMT
Did he have a career hiatus or something? He had worse than a hiatus - he had a big budget floperoo called ALEXANDER as his first title role (sample review "the only highlights are the ones in Colin Farrel's hair" ). Bean counters are important ... Cheeky blighter! I will have you know that Alexander Revisited: The Final Cut has an honoured place in my DVD collection. I cannot speak for the theatrical version. It was probably mangled by your "important" bean counters to save a few bucks or to curry favour wth the Westboro Baptist Church or the State Department *. The DVD release of Revisited is one of the best-selling DVDs of all time worldwide. Yes. it is a curates egg. It is an over-ambitious film but the good outweighs the bad. And Farrell, never one of my favourite actors, is fine. The highlights are the battle scenes on a grand scale with minimal CGI. You quote the reviewers. The fact that US reviewers preferred the clusterfuck which is King Arthur that year shows what their views are worth. * Or maybe with the Scientologists. out of spite because Colin Farrel l replaced Tom Cruise as Stone's choice. Now that would have been a real fiasco.
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Post by manfromplanetx on Mar 24, 2021 2:26:46 GMT
Sidney Tafler's Benny in Wide Boy makes it a great crime film, may be a little wide of the mark for a BGF ?, Tafler does play a tough gang boss, Bernie in The Bank Raiders (1958) Dir. Maxwell Munden, an entertaining low budget drama...  |
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Post by manfromplanetx on Mar 24, 2021 6:09:36 GMT
The Flying Squad (1940) UK. Dir. Herbert Brenon. This great little film was the third cinematic version of the crime thriller written by Edgar Wallace in 1923. Inspector Bradley of Scotland Yard (Sebastian Shaw) is investigating a drug smuggling ring. In the past he has had opportunities to arrest various members of the gang but he doesn’t want the small fish, he wants the ruthless mastermind behind the whole operation... There is no typical mystery element at all in this Edgar Wallace story. It’s a straight out crime thriller, boasting a top cast, and lots of action and mayhem. 
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Post by teleadm on Mar 27, 2021 23:13:19 GMT
Payroll (1961) is another gangster film set in Newcastle but for some reason nobody has a Geordie accent. Apart from that it’s a neat little thriller with gritty location work. A rather boring movie title made me overlook this movie for years, it was a surprising gem, with a layer of many characters interconnected, and even a French femme fatale. As for the missing Gordie accents, I'm glad they didn't use them as it would have been impossible to follow, at least for me.
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Post by Stammerhead on Mar 27, 2021 23:47:38 GMT
Payroll (1961) is another gangster film set in Newcastle but for some reason nobody has a Geordie accent. Apart from that it’s a neat little thriller with gritty location work. A rather boring movie title made me overlook this movie for years, it was a surprising gem, with a layer of many characters interconnected, and even a French femme fatale. As for the missing Gordie accents, I'm glad they didn't use them as it would have been impossible to follow, at least for me. I do know a couple of Geordies with softer accents (they tend to sound a bit Irish when that happens) and that might have helped. But I suppose tough guys with soft accents might have defeated the purpose.
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Post by london777 on Apr 1, 2021 14:57:03 GMT
Mar 20, 2021 21:57:35 GMT -4 manfromplanetx said: Lots of good anecdotes in this article about The Long Good Friday. Interested to learn that Helen Mirren came on board (pun) to be a stereotypical insignificant gangster's floozie and built the part up to the indispensable role it plays in the film's success. Planetx - tomorrow is Good Friday. The time has come for you to be sure. They cut the beheading scene
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Post by timshelboy on Apr 1, 2021 15:02:31 GMT
Especially for LOndon 777 A Brit Gangster musical!
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Post by manfromplanetx on Apr 3, 2021 0:59:41 GMT
Mar 20, 2021 21:57:35 GMT -4 manfromplanetx said: Lots of good anecdotes in this article about The Long Good Friday. Interested to learn that Helen Mirren came on board (pun) to be a stereotypical insignificant gangster's floozie and built the part up to the indispensable role it plays in the film's success. Planetx - tomorrow is Good Friday. The time has come for you to be sure. They cut the beheading scene Thanks london777 for the informative article, playing it safe although the Guardian goes one step further "revered as one of the best British films of all time" ... Well I'll settle with one of the best UK Gangster films. Definitely out of contention here is Get Carter re-watched here last night, a mod personal vendetta, for gangsterism TLGF is the superior film. I am actually surprised how few British Gangster there are following the thread and posts here. Still need to check on some of the recommendations (Mona Lisa , Payroll), Greenaway's lavish, unforgettably graphic film probably earns the top vote, however its back to the Grisson Gang for us next... *edit PS Get Carter has an excellent opening train sequence as the intro credits roll...
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Post by timshelboy on Apr 3, 2021 8:49:25 GMT
He had worse than a hiatus - he had a big budget floperoo called ALEXANDER as his first title role (sample review "the only highlights are the ones in Colin Farrel's hair" ). Bean counters are important ... Cheeky blighter! I will have you know that Alexander Revisited: The Final Cut has an honoured place in my DVD collection. I cannot speak for the theatrical version. It was probably mangled by your "important" bean counters to save a few bucks or to curry favour wth the Westboro Baptist Church or the State Department *. The DVD release of Revisited is one of the best-selling DVDs of all time worldwide. Yes. it is a curates egg. It is an over-ambitious film but the good outweighs the bad. And Farrell, never one of my favourite actors, is fine. The highlights are the battle scenes on a grand scale with minimal CGI. You quote the reviewers. The fact that US reviewers preferred the clusterfuck which is King Arthur that year shows what their views are worth. * Or maybe with the Scientologists. out of spite because Colin Farrel l replaced Tom Cruise as Stone's choice. Now that would have been a real fiasco. Yes they saved the CGI budget for hair and make up...Here are some of those "highlights"
Actually I'm thinking of giving it amother spin... I'm building up to a Snake Lady binge soon Maybe lobby for a muscal version of ALEXANDER  ? Until then try this
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? Until then try this