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Post by Prime etc. on Apr 4, 2021 6:07:33 GMT
They need the kid to combat toxic masculinity. The last thing they want is to have two big monsters fighting without throwing in some kind of matriarchal diversity agenda. Even though it is an ape and a lizard--even there they have to moderate the message. That kid is basically the "Martha-Rey-Greta" of Godzilla-Kong movies.
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Post by ShadowSouL: Padawan of Yoda on Apr 4, 2021 20:17:53 GMT
When was the human stuff in any Godzilla movie ever not stupid, other than the very first Japanese Godzilla film?
I haven't seen the film yet, but the Hong Kong scenes remind me of Godzilla 1985.
So I guess everybody prefers the 1998 Godzilla movie in terms of non-Japanese Godzilla movies.
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Post by Jan El Señor on Apr 4, 2021 22:56:38 GMT
This movie was BOSS. Great fun.
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Post by politicidal on Apr 4, 2021 23:24:59 GMT
When was the human stuff in any Godzilla movie ever not stupid, other than the very first Japanese Godzilla film? I haven't seen the film yet, but the Hong Kong scenes remind me of Godzilla 1985. So I guess everybody prefers the 1998 Godzilla movie in terms of non-Japanese Godzilla movies. I actually like the human characters in the Roland Emmerich film better than most of the cast in the 2014 movie save Bryan Cranston and Ken Watanabe.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Apr 4, 2021 23:58:27 GMT
When was the human stuff in any Godzilla movie ever not stupid, other than the very first Japanese Godzilla film? I haven't seen the film yet, but the Hong Kong scenes remind me of Godzilla 1985. So I guess everybody prefers the 1998 Godzilla movie in terms of non-Japanese Godzilla movies. There’s Shin Godzilla.
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Post by ShadowSouL: Padawan of Yoda on Apr 5, 2021 2:29:03 GMT
When was the human stuff in any Godzilla movie ever not stupid, other than the very first Japanese Godzilla film? I haven't seen the film yet, but the Hong Kong scenes remind me of Godzilla 1985. So I guess everybody prefers the 1998 Godzilla movie in terms of non-Japanese Godzilla movies. I actually like the human characters in the Roland Emmerich film better than most of the cast in the 2014 movie save Bryan Cranston and Ken Watanabe. And David Strathairn as the military commander in both 2014 and 2019. Is he back in Godzilla vs. Kong?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2021 8:28:16 GMT
I actually like the human characters in the Roland Emmerich film better than most of the cast in the 2014 movie save Bryan Cranston and Ken Watanabe. And David Strathairn as the military commander in both 2014 and 2019. Is he back in Godzilla vs. Kong? Nah, he sat this one out.
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Post by politicidal on Apr 5, 2021 14:37:24 GMT
It sounds like they really trimmed the movie down to get it under two hours too. Lance Reddick's role was reduced and I believe Zhang Ziyi and Jessica Henwick were both completely removed from the film as well?
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Post by ShadowSouL: Padawan of Yoda on Apr 6, 2021 5:15:57 GMT
And David Strathairn as the military commander in both 2014 and 2019. Is he back in Godzilla vs. Kong? Nah, he sat this one out. That's unfortunate. Now I'm conflicted as to whether I really want to see this or not.
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Post by Morgana on Apr 6, 2021 8:05:21 GMT
Thank goodness for the children.This is another movie where children save the day from evil and/or incompetent adults. BASIC PLOT - Kong is not happy in Kong biosphere. - Incompetent human adults kidnap Kong to bring him to Antartica where there is an entrance to the center of the Earth. - Kong's naval escort is intercepted by Godzilla. Godzilla and Kong have an epic battle. Godzilla wins round one. - Kong is air lifted to Antarctica. He and humans fall through a wormhole to the center of the Earth. - The center of the Earth is replete with light, oxygen, plants, trees, rivers, lakes, waterfalls and of course, dinosaurs. - Kong is king of the center of the Earth. He even has a throne down there. - Godzilla burns a hole down to the center of the Earth. Kong climbs up that hole from the center of the Earth, to the surface of the Earth. - Kong and Godzilla have epic battle. Kong wins round two. - Kong and Godzilla have another epic battle. Godzilla wins round three. - Apparently King Kong is controlled by an eight year old deaf child. He virtually does whatever she says. (Thank goodness for the children.) She tells him, "Godzilla is not your enemy. He is your friend. By the way, he needs your help." - Kong looks over to see Godzilla battling mechanical Godzilla created by evil human corporation run by evil adults. - Two other children break into the evil corporation and get control of the mechanical Godzilla control board. (Thank goodness for the children.) - They can't override mechanical Godzilla's program. So one kid pours a drink on the control board to short out mechanical Godzilla. (Thank goodness for the children) - Kong and Godzilla decide they cannot be friends. But they will settle for Godzilla controlling the water. And Kong controlling the land. - Kong returns to the center of the Earth. But he needs human supervision.
-------- This is a movie for kids, and adults who can suspend disbelief. There is plenty of action and violence. No nudity or sex. Couple of curse words. I gave it a 10 for action and special effects. A 1 for plot. Half way between 1 and 10 is my rating of 5. This is another movie where children save the day from evil and/or incompetent adults.My greatest gripe with a lot of films and TV shows, The Walking Dead most prominent among them; The Strain not far behind.
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Post by movieliker on Apr 6, 2021 8:13:38 GMT
Thank goodness for the children.This is another movie where children save the day from evil and/or incompetent adults. BASIC PLOT - Kong is not happy in Kong biosphere. - Incompetent human adults kidnap Kong to bring him to Antartica where there is an entrance to the center of the Earth. - Kong's naval escort is intercepted by Godzilla. Godzilla and Kong have an epic battle. Godzilla wins round one. - Kong is air lifted to Antarctica. He and humans fall through a wormhole to the center of the Earth. - The center of the Earth is replete with light, oxygen, plants, trees, rivers, lakes, waterfalls and of course, dinosaurs. - Kong is king of the center of the Earth. He even has a throne down there. - Godzilla burns a hole down to the center of the Earth. Kong climbs up that hole from the center of the Earth, to the surface of the Earth. - Kong and Godzilla have epic battle. Kong wins round two. - Kong and Godzilla have another epic battle. Godzilla wins round three. - Apparently King Kong is controlled by an eight year old deaf child. He virtually does whatever she says. (Thank goodness for the children.) She tells him, "Godzilla is not your enemy. He is your friend. By the way, he needs your help." - Kong looks over to see Godzilla battling mechanical Godzilla created by evil human corporation run by evil adults. - Two other children break into the evil corporation and get control of the mechanical Godzilla control board. (Thank goodness for the children.) - They can't override mechanical Godzilla's program. So one kid pours a drink on the control board to short out mechanical Godzilla. (Thank goodness for the children) - Kong and Godzilla decide they cannot be friends. But they will settle for Godzilla controlling the water. And Kong controlling the land. - Kong returns to the center of the Earth. But he needs human supervision.
-------- This is a movie for kids, and adults who can suspend disbelief. There is plenty of action and violence. No nudity or sex. Couple of curse words. I gave it a 10 for action and special effects. A 1 for plot. Half way between 1 and 10 is my rating of 5. This is another movie where children save the day from evil and/or incompetent adults.My greatest gripe with a lot of films and TV shows, The Walking Dead most prominent among them; The Strain not far behind. Me too. My second greatest gripe is Hollywood always making the military look like stupid macho idiots, whose only solution to everything is attack and destroy. I've got to say, this Godzilla/Kong movie didn't do that. Usually in monster movies the Hollywood trope is to have the military attack monsters bigger than a building with only pistols and machine guns. Shoot monster with pistols and machine guns. If that doesn't work, shoot it with more pistols and machine guns. If that doesn't work, grit your teeth and shoot monster with pistols and machine guns. And finally if that doesn't work, yell and scream while shooting the monster with pistols and machine guns.At least in this movie they used bigger stronger weapons than just pistols and machine guns.
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Post by Morgana on Apr 6, 2021 8:38:28 GMT
This is another movie where children save the day from evil and/or incompetent adults.My greatest gripe with a lot of films and TV shows, The Walking Dead most prominent among them; The Strain not far behind. Me too. My second greatest gripe is Hollywood always making the military look like stupid macho idiots, whose only solution to everything is attack and destroy. I've got to say, this Godzilla/Kong movie didn't do that. Usually in monster movies the Hollywood trope is to have the military attack monsters bigger than a building with only pistols and machine guns. Shoot monster with pistols and machone guns. If that doesn't work, shoot it with more pistols and machine guns. If that doesn't work, grit your teeth and shoot monster with pistols and machine guns. And finally if that doesn't work, yell and scream while shooting the monster with pistols and machine guns.At least in this movie they used bigger stronger weapons than just pistols and machine guns. I enjoyed the film for the fights. When it came down to the humans, the acting was bad (Kong had more expression than Millie Bobby brown did) and the plot made no sense.
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Post by movieliker on Apr 6, 2021 8:50:57 GMT
Me too. My second greatest gripe is Hollywood always making the military look like stupid macho idiots, whose only solution to everything is attack and destroy. I've got to say, this Godzilla/Kong movie didn't do that. Usually in monster movies the Hollywood trope is to have the military attack monsters bigger than a building with only pistols and machine guns. Shoot monster with pistols and machine guns. If that doesn't work, shoot it with more pistols and machine guns. If that doesn't work, grit your teeth and shoot monster with pistols and machine guns. And finally if that doesn't work, yell and scream while shooting the monster with pistols and machine guns.At least in this movie they used bigger stronger weapons than just pistols and machine guns. I enjoyed the film for the fights. When it came down to the humans, the acting was bad (Kong had more expression than Millie Bobby brown did) and the plot made no sense. I agree. But most children aren't sophisticated enough to realize that. So like I said, this movie is for children, and adults who can suspend disbelief.
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Post by politicidal on Apr 6, 2021 17:43:43 GMT
I enjoyed the film for the fights. When it came down to the humans, the acting was bad (Kong had more expression than Millie Bobby brown did) and the plot made no sense. I agree. But most children aren't sophisticated enough to realize that. So like I said, this movie is for children, and adults who can suspend disbelief. Yeah, I usually accept for these types of films that I'm watching a creature feature, not something more highbrow.
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Post by shaggypoo on Apr 8, 2021 14:19:31 GMT
Millie Bobby brown looks pretty hot in that one scene with her hair slicked back, wearing those hoop earrings
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