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Post by blade on May 14, 2017 18:58:29 GMT
I think Obama is a far better human being than Trump will ever be. But I don't believe either of them have any sort of religious faith to begin with. I wonder if Trump has ever killed a defenseless animal? I seriously doubt it.
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Post by OldSamVimes on May 14, 2017 18:59:57 GMT
You seem to be having difficulty with the concept. Whether a bridge gets built depends on whether people agree they want one at any particular place. Science can build one almost anywhere they finally decide. You know a tunnel was built under the English Channel. Wikipedia is a great source for what happened and when. It is a total loss at explaining the "why" of anything. How to build a bridge isn't really very difficult. Humans can handle that without consulting religion, I agree. Why to build a bridge is something else entirely. And remember "bridge" here is a metaphor for any material endeavor. Blind faith in science and ignorance of everything beyond it is the worse such wall. "Blind faith in science and ignorance of everything beyond it is the worse such wall." IMO blind faith in anything is ignorance. You have to wonder, to question things for yourself. To follow doctrines of science or religion without wondering or questioning their truth is blindness.
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Post by Arlon10 on May 14, 2017 19:04:57 GMT
You have to wonder, to question things for yourself. There's hope for you yet.
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Post by cupcakes on May 14, 2017 19:34:00 GMT
tpfkar Some people move on from the actions they regret from childhood. Others relish in perpetrating their puerile nasty right into the edge of their dotage. They know that yet they keep bringing it up...implying I had an interest in the children. It was an insult against the parent. The guy lived with his parents and I wondered how they all fit in the house at night when they slept. I wondered if some had to sleep in the garage or elsewhere.
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Post by OldSamVimes on May 14, 2017 20:38:05 GMT
You have to wonder, to question things for yourself. There's hope for you yet. There's hope for everyone. For instance, I hope that someday you'll endeavor to scrutinize your religion with the save logic that you do science.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2017 20:42:26 GMT
It just so happens there is proof of an intelligent designer. You like to claim this, but all requests for this proof are met with evasions and silence. Not that proof of an intelligent designer would actually say anything about god one way or the other, of course.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2017 20:44:17 GMT
I think Obama is a far better human being than Trump will ever be. But I don't believe either of them have any sort of religious faith to begin with. I wonder if Trump has ever killed a defenseless animal? I seriously doubt it. His sons are pretty keen on it, though
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Post by blade on May 14, 2017 21:26:26 GMT
I think Obama is a far better human being than Trump will ever be. But I don't believe either of them have any sort of religious faith to begin with. I wonder if Trump has ever killed a defenseless animal? I seriously doubt it.Look who never showed up.
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Post by Arlon10 on May 14, 2017 21:50:18 GMT
It just so happens there is proof of an intelligent designer. You like to claim this, but all presentations of this proof are met with evasions and silence. Not that proof of an intelligent designer would actually say anything about most people's concept of god one way or the other, of course. Fixed.
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Post by cupcakes on May 14, 2017 21:56:09 GMT
tpfkar I'd guess he prefers watching as a spectator as you keep making an utter fool out of your screwy halfwit hypocrite self. You said I was wrong which is attacking me rather than my argument.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2017 22:09:29 GMT
You like to claim this, but all presentations of this proof are met with evasions and silence. Not that proof of an intelligent designer would actually say anything about most people's concept of god one way or the other, of course. Fixed. You've never actually presented the proof at all mate. You've never even tried. Feel free to prove me wrong by posting it here. But of course, you won't.
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Post by geode on May 15, 2017 5:55:40 GMT
I think Obama is a far better human being than Trump will ever be. But I don't believe either of them have any sort of religious faith to begin with. I wonder if Trump has ever killed a defenseless animal? I seriously doubt it. That is a good question and I don't know if he ever went on hunting trips. I have killed some days defenseless animals, mainly by accident. I have pulled doors closed a few times to find that one of the little geckos that live in my house were in the way. I have purposely killed hundreds of termites recently. When I was a teenager I was messing with a slingshot and actually hit a lizard with a pebble. He first was stunned but then didn't pull through. I took aim at a flying bird with a BB gun and brought him down. That was the last time I ever shot at anything that was living. But what about Trump's action here? link
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Post by captainbryce on May 15, 2017 12:44:24 GMT
You are evidence of the truth of the statement. I dont hate anyone let alone gay or trans people. Is that the best you can do is assign me a position I dont hold? That's what everyone who hates anyone says and thinks. Even the Klan doesn't claim to "hate" black people or Jews. Evil often thinks it's really good and will justify its actions as "good" more often than not.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 14:10:01 GMT
As amply demonstrated in the winter of 2012-13 on the old board, the religion of a head of state may be something other than the religion he or she claims. Hitler called himself a Christian because he was leader of a Christian country, but the overwhelming evidence is that he had his own religion based on the occult and ancient Germanic mysticism. The next world conflict will be globalist versus nationalist. Obama was the poster child for globalism, just as Trump is for nationalism. Alongside that, I think their personal religious beliefs, whatever they are, don't matter so much. There is ample evidence that he was basically a Chrsitian, just a very poor example of one. There is plenty more evidence to the contrary.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 14:28:41 GMT
The critics of both of them claim that neither is really true to being a Christian as claimed. My guess is Obama leans agnostic... Trump doesn't really give a shit one way or the other.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 14:29:31 GMT
This is a perfect example of why discussing anything with you is pointless. Actually, you 'discussing' anything with anyone is pointless.
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Post by geode on May 15, 2017 15:22:48 GMT
There is ample evidence that he was basically a Chrsitian, just a very poor example of one. There is plenty more evidence to the contrary. There is evidence in both directions. He made statements that indicated a stance from a Christian direction and statements that indicate a rejection of Christianity. I think he used religion to his own aims, whatever was most expedient.
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Post by geode on May 15, 2017 15:25:23 GMT
The critics of both of them claim that neither is really true to being a Christian as claimed. My guess is Obama leans agnostic... Trump doesn't really give a shit one way or the other. I think that they both might have thinking that leans agnostic.
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Post by Cinemachinery on May 15, 2017 15:36:08 GMT
I suspect Obama is, at best, a Sunday Christian. At best. Long before he came into the public eye.
Trump's only experience with the church seems to be passing mention when he thinks it will snag the faithful.
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Post by Cinemachinery on May 15, 2017 15:41:33 GMT
There's hope for you yet. There's hope for everyone. For instance, I hope that someday you'll endeavor to scrutinize your religion with the save logic that you do science. Branding those rambling word-circuses "logic" is some forgiving phrasing indeed.
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