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Post by Admin on Apr 7, 2021 3:10:18 GMT
It wasn't removed. You posted a broken link and the OP is exactly how you left it. Guess what that means? Yup, that's right... Operator error.
Yeah, I figured that out yesterday. But it did post at first and stayed up for hours.
If I had know it was copyrighted and not available, I would have chosen one of another thousands of the same "White Chicks" pics which are available. I can't be arsed at this point to find another one.
You presume a copyright was the reason it was only up temporarily, but I saw this thread within minutes of your posting it, and I never saw the photo. It's just a bad link. Can you be arsed to apologize for your incorrect presumptions? I'll even let one apology cover all of them, and there are a lot of them over the past 4 years...
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Post by gameboy on Apr 7, 2021 3:20:03 GMT
Yeah, I figured that out yesterday. But it did post at first and stayed up for hours.
If I had know it was copyrighted and not available, I would have chosen one of another thousands of the same "White Chicks" pics which are available. I can't be arsed at this point to find another one.
You presume a copyright was the reason it was only up temporarily, but I saw this thread within minutes of your posting it, and I never saw the photo. It's just a bad link. Can you be arsed to apologize for your incorrect presumptions? I'll even let one apology cover all of them, and there are a lot of them over the past 4 years... Nah, I checked it after I posted it. It did appear at first. It's nothing to argue about though. Who cares?
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Post by Admin on Apr 7, 2021 3:25:56 GMT
You presume a copyright was the reason it was only up temporarily, but I saw this thread within minutes of your posting it, and I never saw the photo. It's just a bad link. Can you be arsed to apologize for your incorrect presumptions? I'll even let one apology cover all of them, and there are a lot of them over the past 4 years... Nah, I checked it after I posted it. It did appear at first. It's nothing to argue about though. Who cares? Hey now. You tagged me into this, and caring is not a requirement. It's possible it was cached in your browser or something. I suppose it's also not outside the realm of possibility that you're a lying dog and won't admit it after indirectly accusing me of censoring you your OP. 
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Post by gameboy on Apr 7, 2021 5:30:15 GMT
Nah, I checked it after I posted it. It did appear at first. It's nothing to argue about though. Who cares? Hey now. You tagged me into this, and caring is not a requirement. It's possible it was cached in your browser or something. I suppose it's also not outside the realm of possibility that you're a lying dog and won't admit it after indirectly accusing me of censoring you your OP.  Yeah right. I didn't rail at you for censoring, I just asked why? I was quite polite.
At first I thought you edited it and then I realized that it was probably one of those confounded pics they don't want reposted.
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Post by Admin on Apr 7, 2021 6:26:17 GMT
Hey now. You tagged me into this, and caring is not a requirement. It's possible it was cached in your browser or something. I suppose it's also not outside the realm of possibility that you're a lying dog and won't admit it after indirectly accusing me of censoring you your OP.  Yeah right. I didn't rail at you for censoring, I just asked why? I was quite polite.
At first I thought you edited it and then I realized that it was probably one of those confounded pics they don't want reposted.
I didn't say you "railed at me." I said you indirectly accused me. And you did.
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Post by Stammerhead on Apr 7, 2021 8:44:19 GMT
You presume a copyright was the reason it was only up temporarily, but I saw this thread within minutes of your posting it, and I never saw the photo. It's just a bad link. Can you be arsed to apologize for your incorrect presumptions? I'll even let one apology cover all of them, and there are a lot of them over the past 4 years... Nah, I checked it after I posted it. It did appear at first. It's nothing to argue about though. Who cares? I also saw the picture in the OP when it first appeared but it disappeared later which I thought was amusing in the context of this thread. I don’t know if it helps but I use picture links that end with .jpg or .gif but photos (and videos) are often taken down because the person who put them on the internet didn’t have permission.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Apr 7, 2021 13:33:49 GMT
Actually, according to the Constitution, only Congress can't limit free speech. In any case, what laws are being passed to limit a studio's right to produce a lampoon? I see, so you're a conservative and a strict Constitutional constructionist. Sure, the Constitution says only Congress can make laws. The founders would also be against all the agencies of the Executive branch which in effect regulate and make de facto law.
And it has been upheld in the courts time and time again that State Legislatures and County Sheriffs cannot override the federal Bill of Rights.
You can say the same about the Judicial Branch. Only if you ignore the rest of the Amendments. Sorry, but I didn't stop reading after the 10th one. So no to whatever point you thought you were trying to make.
You sound pretty offended, yet it clearly hasn't impressed on you the ability to think.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Apr 7, 2021 13:35:22 GMT
So you don't really want a rational explanation then if hundreds of years of oppression isn't enough for. You just want someone to say to you, "Go ahead and do black face with impunity." You clearly understand why it's taboo. You just refuse to accept it. That's your issue to work out, not society's. No, that's absurd. I'm gay and gay people suffered plenty of oppression. I still do not want to ban homophobic stereotypes. And I see them in the media constantly. Even what the media tries to portray as positive images of gay men is usually an offensive stereotype. More's the pity. But just because you don't want something, doesn't mean others don't either.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Apr 7, 2021 20:21:15 GMT
If, IF, white face was done all the time and for the purpose of demeaning white people as if they were buffoons for laughing at, then yes it would be demeaning. Whats your point? The "Karen" stereotype is a form of whiteface. Caricatures of "whiteness" are done all the time.
Media has eliminated "blackface" to protect the sensibilities of black people. My point is that's bullshit.
Do blackface. Do whiteface. No group is above critique.
I would just like a rational explanation why "blackface" is taboo?
And yes, I know that black people have endured much more oppression than any other minority and that includes queer folks. I don't give a fuck. In a nation which prizes free speech, blackface is an acceptable form of satire. A) EVERYTHING you just wrote is wrong. B) If you don't give a fuck then neither do I. I've tried to give you the benefit of the doubt over the time we've conversed on here, but I now see no choice but to finally acknowledge that you really are just an asshole. And I can say that... because I don't give a fuck.
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Post by gameboy on Apr 11, 2021 3:32:03 GMT
The "Karen" stereotype is a form of whiteface. Caricatures of "whiteness" are done all the time.
Media has eliminated "blackface" to protect the sensibilities of black people. My point is that's bullshit.
Do blackface. Do whiteface. No group is above critique.
I would just like a rational explanation why "blackface" is taboo?
And yes, I know that black people have endured much more oppression than any other minority and that includes queer folks. I don't give a fuck. In a nation which prizes free speech, blackface is an acceptable form of satire. A) EVERYTHING you just wrote is wrong. B) If you don't give a fuck then neither do I. I've tried to give you the benefit of the doubt over the time we've conversed on here, but I now see no choice but to finally acknowledge that you really are just an asshole. And I can say that... because I don't give a fuck. Dude, what self righteous bullcrap.
You're making an ad hominem judgment over a disagreement on philosophy of action.
Are you implying I'm racist because I don't think any form of entertainment should be taboo?
I'll put my beliefs on racial issues up against anyone here. I think I'm the only white man here who supports slavery reparations. I support affirmative action for African-Americans only. No, I wouldn't give white women the benefit of AA. So just how does my lack of concern over blackface make me an asshole?
Sorry, I don't believe any group is immune from satire. And I don't care if some middle class black or any black gets offended.
What I see as more pernicious is how blacks are portrayed as criminals, gays as silly effeminate nice guys, and Latinos as kitchen help. Satire in blackface is harmless.
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Post by dirtypillows on Apr 11, 2021 4:03:54 GMT
You presume a copyright was the reason it was only up temporarily, but I saw this thread within minutes of your posting it, and I never saw the photo. It's just a bad link. Can you be arsed to apologize for your incorrect presumptions? I'll even let one apology cover all of them, and there are a lot of them over the past 4 years... Nah, I checked it after I posted it. It did appear at first. It's nothing to argue about though. Who cares? I saw your white chicks photo. Don't know why it went broken.
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Post by gameboy on Apr 11, 2021 5:07:35 GMT
Nah, I checked it after I posted it. It did appear at first. It's nothing to argue about though. Who cares? I saw your white chicks photo. Don't know why it went broken. For a short while most sites were making it difficult to copy and paste a photo. Now they seemed to have eased up.
I'm just surprised that I was able to initially post that "White Chicks" photo but it was later deactivated. I wonder if they have some software which catches it after the fact and disables it?
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Apr 11, 2021 5:42:34 GMT
In same place as the 400 years of racial oppression that black people imposed on white people in the U.S. Context is very important. can I punish you for your great great grandfather's mistakes? Didn't think so. You can be criticized for still believing the same racist bullshit that your great great grandfather believed in.
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Apr 11, 2021 5:44:54 GMT
A) EVERYTHING you just wrote is wrong. B) If you don't give a fuck then neither do I. I've tried to give you the benefit of the doubt over the time we've conversed on here, but I now see no choice but to finally acknowledge that you really are just an asshole. And I can say that... because I don't give a fuck. Dude, what self righteous bullcrap.
You're making an ad hominem judgment over a disagreement on philosophy of action.
Are you implying I'm racist because I don't think any form of entertainment should be taboo?
I'll put my beliefs on racial issues up against anyone here. I think I'm the only white man here who supports slavery reparations. I support affirmative action for African-Americans only. No, I wouldn't give white women the benefit of AA. So just how does my lack of concern over blackface make me an asshole?
Sorry, I don't believe any group is immune from satire. And I don't care if some middle class black or any black gets offended.
What I see as more pernicious is how blacks are portrayed as criminals, gays as silly effeminate nice guys, and Latinos as kitchen help. Satire in blackface is harmless.
Satirizing blackface and satirizing black people while in blackface are two different things.
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Post by gameboy on Apr 11, 2021 7:19:40 GMT
Dude, what self righteous bullcrap.
You're making an ad hominem judgment over a disagreement on philosophy of action.
Are you implying I'm racist because I don't think any form of entertainment should be taboo?
I'll put my beliefs on racial issues up against anyone here. I think I'm the only white man here who supports slavery reparations. I support affirmative action for African-Americans only. No, I wouldn't give white women the benefit of AA. So just how does my lack of concern over blackface make me an asshole?
Sorry, I don't believe any group is immune from satire. And I don't care if some middle class black or any black gets offended.
What I see as more pernicious is how blacks are portrayed as criminals, gays as silly effeminate nice guys, and Latinos as kitchen help. Satire in blackface is harmless.
Satirizing blackface and satirizing black people while in blackface are two different things. I said "satire in blackface", meaning using blackface to satirize black culture. Everyone's fair game, it's protected by free speech, and it should not be taboo. Everyone can be satirized except black people? Nonsense.
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Apr 11, 2021 7:38:05 GMT
Satirizing blackface and satirizing black people while in blackface are two different things. I said "satire in blackface", meaning using blackface to satirize black culture. Everyone's fair game, it's protected by free speech, and it should not be taboo. Everyone can be satirized except black people? Nonsense. Blackface not as satire  Blackface as satire  And the reason there is no history of whiteface among African American entertainers is because the first black person to be caught in whiteface would have wound up in deadface.
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Post by Stammerhead on Apr 11, 2021 13:07:19 GMT
I said "satire in blackface", meaning using blackface to satirize black culture. Everyone's fair game, it's protected by free speech, and it should not be taboo. Everyone can be satirized except black people? Nonsense. Blackface not as satire  Blackface as satire  And the reason there is no history of whiteface among African American entertainers is because the first black person to be caught in whiteface would have wound up in deadface. Although in the case of Tropic Thunder the satire always aimed at a white actor. That said, satire is usually about punching up instead of punching down and blackface is burdened by a history of really punching the fuck down.
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Post by gameboy on Apr 11, 2021 15:49:44 GMT
I said "satire in blackface", meaning using blackface to satirize black culture. Everyone's fair game, it's protected by free speech, and it should not be taboo. Everyone can be satirized except black people? Nonsense. Blackface not as satire  Blackface as satire  And the reason there is no history of whiteface among African American entertainers is because the first black person to be caught in whiteface would have wound up in deadface. I suppose childish mockery is a form of satire.
And the last time I checked the Wayans Brothers are still alive. Point being, we don't live in the world of Jim Crow anymore.
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Apr 11, 2021 15:50:52 GMT
Blackface not as satire  Blackface as satire  And the reason there is no history of whiteface among African American entertainers is because the first black person to be caught in whiteface would have wound up in deadface. I suppose childish mockery is a form of satire.
And the last time I checked the Wayans Brothers are still alive. Point being, we don't live in the world of Jim Crow anymore. Buzz off, Killjoy.
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Post by gameboy on Apr 11, 2021 16:04:00 GMT
I suppose childish mockery is a form of satire.
And the last time I checked the Wayans Brothers are still alive. Point being, we don't live in the world of Jim Crow anymore. Buzz off, Killjoy. Killjoy? You're the one talking about dead faces.
By the way, the black actor Dooley Wilson became famous for doing a "whiteface" parody in 1908. As far as I know there were no murder attempts.
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