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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Apr 4, 2021 18:52:50 GMT
Not doing a poll and not including every one but a few, for your consideration...
Jalen Suggs, 2021. In OT, game tied 90-90
Kris Jenkins, 2016, game tied 74-74
Mario Chalmers, Memphis up 63-60
Christian Laettner, 1992, Duke losing 102-103
Lorenzo Charles, 1983. Game tied 52-52
There were a ton of other, Rip Hamilton, Bryce Drew, Paul Jesperson (half court in 2016). Some pluses and minuses for every one. Zo Charles was just a simple dunk, Houston was napping (Terry Gannon was wide open too). Laettner's was due to a heinous decision on Rick Pitino's part, not defending the inbound. Jenkins' was nearly automatic, once he got the ball, you kind of knew it was over. Chalmers' didn't end the game. Suggs, can't see many minuses, other than it's a situation you see 10,000 in a season and 9,999 times the ball doesn't go in.
I'd either say Laettner or Suggs. Laettner's meant more because Duke was losing. But, once Grant Hill makes the pass, you knew he was going to drain the shot. Suggs was a shocker, I was thinking "Yeah, another OT, Timme's in foul trouble will that make a...HOLY SHIT, HE FUCKING MADE IT".
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Apr 4, 2021 18:54:09 GMT
'nova
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Apr 5, 2021 12:06:12 GMT
If he misses, the game goes to OT. Any shot where the guy had to make it or the game was over is a tougher shot.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Apr 5, 2021 12:08:17 GMT
If he misses, the game goes to OT. Any shot where the guy had to make it or the game was over is a tougher shot. Question is - 'All Time Greatest'
This won the National Championship
The Houston one that won the National Championship was like a half court airball caught by a teammate and putback right under the basketball.
Nova - Greatest Buzzer Beater of All-Time
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Apr 5, 2021 12:15:08 GMT
If he misses, the game goes to OT. Any shot where the guy had to make it or the game was over is a tougher shot. Question is - 'All Time Greatest'
This won the National Championship
The Houston one that won the National Championship was like a half court airball caught by a teammate and putback right under the basketball.
Nova - Greatest Buzzer Beater of All-Time
If Laettner misses, they lose. If Chalmers misses, they lose. If Jenkins misses, they go to OT. These are all great clutch shots, but when you're separating the best from the best, you have to start splitting hairs. The stakes were highest for the guys whose shots kept them from losing. Jenkins shot won them the title, but the worst that happens is they go to OT. He had nothing to lose with the ball in his hands.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Apr 5, 2021 12:18:37 GMT
Question is - 'All Time Greatest'
This won the National Championship
The Houston one that won the National Championship was like a half court airball caught by a teammate and putback right under the basketball.
Nova - Greatest Buzzer Beater of All-Time
If Laettner misses, they lose. If Chalmers misses, they lose. If Jenkins misses, they go to OT. These are all great clutch shots, but when you're separating the best from the best, you have to start splitting hairs. The stakes were highest for the guys whose shots kept them from losing. Jenkins shot won them the title, but the worst that happens is they go to OT. He had nothing to lose with the ball in his hands. Championship Game - i.e. 'Greatest Game'
Greatest Stage
Greatest Microscope on a team
Season ender
Greatest Shot
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Apr 5, 2021 12:45:27 GMT
longest game winning shot?
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Apr 5, 2021 12:56:30 GMT
If Laettner misses, they lose. If Chalmers misses, they lose. If Jenkins misses, they go to OT. These are all great clutch shots, but when you're separating the best from the best, you have to start splitting hairs. The stakes were highest for the guys whose shots kept them from losing. Jenkins shot won them the title, but the worst that happens is they go to OT. He had nothing to lose with the ball in his hands. Championship Game - i.e. 'Greatest Game'
Greatest Stage
Greatest Microscope on a team
Season ender
Greatest Shot
If he misses, the season doesn't end. Laettner and Chalmers miss and the season is over for their team. Chalmers shot was in the title game i.e. 'Greatest Game, Greatest Stage, Greatest Microscope on a team.' And he had to create that shot out of a busted play with a defender in his face; as opposed to Jenkins getting a wide open look in transition. Jenkins shot won a title, it was a great clutch shot. The Laettner and Chalmers shots were better. I've never been a fan of the NC State shot because that was a fluke born of total chaos.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Apr 5, 2021 12:58:30 GMT
longest game winning shot? I remember watching that game. I can't believe how many years it's been since some of this stuff happened.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Apr 5, 2021 12:58:44 GMT
Championship Game - i.e. 'Greatest Game'
Greatest Stage
Greatest Microscope on a team
Season ender
Greatest Shot
If he misses, the season doesn't end. Laettner and Chalmers miss and the season is over for their team. Chalmers shot was in the title game i.e. 'Greatest Game, Greatest Stage, Greatest Microscope on a team.' And he had to create that shot out of a busted play with a defender in his face; as opposed to Jenkins getting a wide open look in transition. Jenkins shot won a title, it was a great clutch shot. The Laettner and Chalmers shots were better. I've never been a fan of the NC State shot because that was a fluke born of total chaos. Would you argue the greatest FG kick would come in a Super Bowl or in a playoff game?
How about the greatest goal scored? Stanley Cup Game 7 or Round 1 of the playoffs?
How about greatest Home Run - game 7 of a World Series or the the ALDS/NLDS
Greatest 3 pointer ever made - NBA Finals Game 7 or Round 1 of the playoffs between a 4 and 5 seed?
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Apr 5, 2021 13:08:08 GMT
If he misses, the season doesn't end. Laettner and Chalmers miss and the season is over for their team. Chalmers shot was in the title game i.e. 'Greatest Game, Greatest Stage, Greatest Microscope on a team.' And he had to create that shot out of a busted play with a defender in his face; as opposed to Jenkins getting a wide open look in transition. Jenkins shot won a title, it was a great clutch shot. The Laettner and Chalmers shots were better. I've never been a fan of the NC State shot because that was a fluke born of total chaos. Would you argue the greatest FG kick would come in a Super Bowl or in a playoff game?
How about the greatest goal scored? Stanley Cup Game 7 or Round 1 of the playoffs?
How about greatest Home Run - game 7 of a World Series or the the ALDS/NLDS
Greatest 3 pointer ever made - NBA Finals Game 7 or Round 1 of the playoffs between a 4 and 5 seed?
I would argue the context of the circumstances, as I am now. (And for the record, the greatest FG kick was in a playoff game, not the Super Bowl. Vinatieri into the teeth of a blizzard to TIE the game in the divisional round against the Raiders.) Generally speaking, the play the team/player has to make to keep their chances alive as opposed to win-or-go-to-OT is the more impressive play. Your real argument is, "It was a Philly team, therefore it was the greatest."
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Apr 5, 2021 13:10:02 GMT
Would you argue the greatest FG kick would come in a Super Bowl or in a playoff game?
How about the greatest goal scored? Stanley Cup Game 7 or Round 1 of the playoffs?
How about greatest Home Run - game 7 of a World Series or the the ALDS/NLDS
Greatest 3 pointer ever made - NBA Finals Game 7 or Round 1 of the playoffs between a 4 and 5 seed?
I would argue the context of the circumstances, as I am now. (And for the record, the greatest FG kick was in a playoff game, not the Super Bowl. Vinatieri into the teeth of a blizzard to TIE the game in the divisional round against the Raiders.) Generally speaking, the play the team/player has to make to keep their chances alive as opposed to win-or-go-to-OT is the more impressive play. Your real argument is, "It was a Philly team, therefore it was the greatest." I would argue that 40 posts from now you won’t be any closer to resolving this. |
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Apr 5, 2021 13:12:44 GMT
I would argue the context of the circumstances, as I am now. (And for the record, the greatest FG kick was in a playoff game, not the Super Bowl. Vinatieri into the teeth of a blizzard to TIE the game in the divisional round against the Raiders.) Generally speaking, the play the team/player has to make to keep their chances alive as opposed to win-or-go-to-OT is the more impressive play. Your real argument is, "It was a Philly team, therefore it was the greatest." I would argue that 40 posts from now you won’t be any closer to resolving this. The question is how many false equivalencies/misquotes/deliberate misinterpretations of my commentary will he make.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Apr 5, 2021 13:21:19 GMT
Hey look everybody the greatest FG kick of All-Time was not a Super Bowl Game Winner but was an iconic one in a 1st Round! Because you know - the Super Bowl one the game was tied at the end and would have went to OT if he missed anyway - but the 1st Round one won the Game and advanced them to the 2nd round! DOOOOIIIYY!!!!
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Post by klawrencio79 on Apr 5, 2021 13:27:35 GMT
I would argue that 40 posts from now you won’t be any closer to resolving this. The question is how many false equivalencies/misquotes/deliberate misinterpretations of my commentary will he make. In recent weeks, I've undertaken a new approach to this board. I only respond to posts worth responding to. It makes this board, and really the internet in general, a vastly more enjoyable experience.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Apr 5, 2021 13:34:27 GMT
Hey look everybody the greatest FG kick of All-Time was not a Super Bowl Game Winner but was an iconic one in a 1st Round! Because you know - the Super Bowl one the game was tied at the end and would have went to OT if he missed anyway - but the 1st Round one won the Game and advanced them to the 2nd round Pay attention, I wasn't even talking about the game winner in the divisional round. I'm talking about the one that tied the game. I'm sure it was very confusing, what with me putting the word TIE in caps. But hey, you had nowhere else to go with the original conversation, so you may as well shift gears again, just to keep the debate going. I do appreciate the effort, frogs.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Apr 5, 2021 13:35:23 GMT
The question is how many false equivalencies/misquotes/deliberate misinterpretations of my commentary will he make. In recent weeks, I've undertaken a new approach to this board. I only respond to posts worth responding to. It makes this board, and really the internet in general, a vastly more enjoyable experience. He's harmless. I'll start tuning him out if he starts posting about Deflategate in bold red font.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Apr 5, 2021 13:35:50 GMT
I always thought an OT goal to win a Stanley Cup was surely to be considered the greatest goal ever scored But boy was I wrong! That iconic blast from Oscar MaGoo on November 10th during the regular between Ottawa and Winipeg in 2006 certainly has that beat by a mile!  |
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Apr 5, 2021 13:40:22 GMT
Hey look everybody the greatest FG kick of All-Time was not a Super Bowl Game Winner but was an iconic one in a 1st Round! Because you know - the Super Bowl one the game was tied at the end and would have went to OT if he missed anyway - but the 1st Round one won the Game and advanced them to the 2nd round Pay attention, I wasn't even talking about the game winner in the divisional round. I'm talking about the one that tied the game. I'm sure it was very confusing, what with me putting the word TIE in caps. But hey, you had nowhere else to go with the original conversation, so you may as well shift gears again, just to keep the debate going. I do appreciate the effort, frogs. The ironic thing is he’s vehemently defending Nova ostensibly because they’re a Philly team. While they are a local team for us, they are certainly not Philly. They’re the complete antithesis of Philly, what with being located in one of the wealthiest suburbs along the Main Line. Philly might as well be the dark side of the moon next to Villanova. |
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Post by klawrencio79 on Apr 5, 2021 14:02:46 GMT
In recent weeks, I've undertaken a new approach to this board. I only respond to posts worth responding to. It makes this board, and really the internet in general, a vastly more enjoyable experience. He's harmless. I'll start tuning him out if he starts posting about Deflategate in bold red font. That's true.
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