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Post by hobowar on Apr 7, 2021 21:29:03 GMT
I agree. Loki shouldn't need daggers. He pretty much was making magical daggers throughout the movies, don't know why he's asking for physical daggers now. They really need to figure out Loki's powers since they've been extremely inconsistent. His powers are magic which means he can do whatever the writers think of at any given moment.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Apr 7, 2021 21:44:09 GMT
He seems more durable than strong to me. I wish he used more magic. The teleportation and shape-shifting would also be nice if he did it consistently, but I'm not damaged by it. The series will clearly have multiple variants of Loki. Who knows if they'll all have the same power sets. I consider Loki's physicality (both strength and durability) to be a notch below Thor's. He's strong enough to give Thor a fight but can't quite match Thor when Thor goes all out. He easily brushes off lots of similar attacks that Thor shrugs off, like repulsor blasts from IM and a shoulder bash from Hulk, exploding stuff to the face, etc. But he doesn't quite have the high-end durability feats Thor does like withstanding the neutron star or taking repeated punches to the face from Hulk and still getting up. But yeah, in the MCU Loki fights far more physically than I'd prefer. I wish they'd tune up his magical prowess. He should be good enough with his magic to give Dr. Strange a good fight. Agreed, I'm hoping there is an inevitable confrontation between the two. Loki owes him for that fall.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2021 23:04:15 GMT
He pretty much was making magical daggers throughout the movies, don't know why he's asking for physical daggers now. They really need to figure out Loki's powers since they've been extremely inconsistent. His powers are magic which means he can do whatever the writers think of at any given moment. Not sure if youre being a smartarse or not lol but there is a point there
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Post by hobowar on Apr 8, 2021 2:18:48 GMT
His powers are magic which means he can do whatever the writers think of at any given moment. Not sure if youre being a smartarse or not lol but there is a point there Time travel and magic are the two biggest ways to muddy up the plot if you're not careful. How cool would it have been if during the first Avengers movie, Loki shapeshifted into Barack Obama and ordered a drone strike on New York?
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Apr 8, 2021 12:13:06 GMT
Not sure if youre being a smartarse or not lol but there is a point there How cool would it have been if during the first Avengers movie, Loki shapeshifted into Barack Obama and ordered a drone strike on New York? That and Godlike super speed, which is essentially time travel. I've never been a fan of time travel or super speed for that very reason. More than any other ability it begs the question, "Why don't they just do this all the time?"
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Post by hobowar on Apr 8, 2021 13:38:50 GMT
Time travel and magic are the two biggest ways to muddy up the plot if you're not careful.How cool would it have been if during the first Avengers movie, Loki shapeshifted into Barack Obama and ordered a drone strike on New York? That and Godlike super speed, which is essentially time travel. I've never been a fan of time travel or super speed for that very reason. More than any other ability it begs the question, "Why don't they just do this all the time?" Yeah, I've always thought characters like Flash should be able to solve any problem the nanosecond it occurs as long it's not another speedster.
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 8, 2021 18:57:56 GMT
Time travel and magic are the two biggest ways to muddy up the plot if you're not careful.How cool would it have been if during the first Avengers movie, Loki shapeshifted into Barack Obama and ordered a drone strike on New York? That and Godlike super speed, which is essentially time travel. I've never been a fan of time travel or super speed for that very reason. More than any other ability it begs the question, "Why don't they just do this all the time?" Godlike superspeed, reality warping and godlike telepathy (the kind that allows you to stop people in their tracks) are the most irritating hax powers around. They literally need to create huge plot holes just to give these characters decent storylines. I don't understand why they don't just give them limitations. Like, Jean Grey in the old X-Men cartoons generally had a migraine or even fainted if she tried to use her telepathy too much. I remember reading a book some time ago where a character had super speed but only regular stamina. So the guy could run a kilometer in a second but would then collapse exhausted.
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Post by Power Ranger on Apr 8, 2021 20:09:06 GMT
Not sure if youre being a smartarse or not lol but there is a point there Time travel and magic are the two biggest ways to muddy up the plot if you're not careful. How cool would it have been if during the first Avengers movie, Loki shapeshifted into Barack Obama and ordered a drone strike on New York? I once read that there are rules about how the POTUS can be depicted on film but I can’t find it now. |
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Post by Power Ranger on Apr 8, 2021 20:16:58 GMT
That and Godlike super speed, which is essentially time travel. I've never been a fan of time travel or super speed for that very reason. More than any other ability it begs the question, "Why don't they just do this all the time?" Godlike superspeed, reality warping and godlike telepathy (the kind that allows you to stop people in their tracks) are the most irritating hax powers around. They literally need to create huge plot holes just to give these characters decent storylines. I don't understand why they don't just give them limitations. Like, Jean Grey in the old X-Men cartoons generally had a migraine or even fainted if she tried to use her telepathy too much. I remember reading a book some time ago where a character had super speed but only regular stamina. So the guy could run a kilometer in a second but would then collapse exhausted. I read a Dr Strange comic once where it was said that any magic he performs will have an equally powerful repercussion. So the extra bullshit stuff is dangerous to use. I think it would have been good if Stark reacted negatively to Dr Strange, like he was even more freaked out by magic than aliens even, especially given that he’s a scientist, who are generally arbiters of rationality. Instead he joked about ice cream when they met. I like to think of magic as the science of a different dimension, which isn’t supposed to belong in this plane. |
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Post by politicidal on May 12, 2021 15:39:59 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2021 17:24:21 GMT
Anyone else think these streeeeaaaming shows are really beginning to water down the MCU?
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Post by Archelaus on May 12, 2021 17:38:43 GMT
Anyone else think these streeeeaaaming shows are really beginning to water down the MCU? Not me. The Disney+ series are benefitting from the pause in new content caused by the pandemic. Also, they are essentially connective tissue paving the aftermath of Avengers: Endgame into Phase Four of the MCU, so if anything, it may build more anticipation for the theatrical movies.
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Post by Downey on May 12, 2021 18:08:44 GMT
Anyone else think these streeeeaaaming shows are really beginning to water down the MCU? Yes yes yes yes so much yes to this. |
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Post by Power Ranger on May 13, 2021 17:38:17 GMT
What's going on with the cute cartoon clock? Maybe from an instructional video he is forced to watch. |
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Post by Prime etc. on May 13, 2021 18:28:11 GMT
Anyone else think these streeeeaaaming shows are really beginning to water down the MCU? Wasn't it already watered down a fair bit? I think Disney would rather use streaming than theatrical releases.
Plus, the novelty of the MCU wore off.
They went for the big event approach instead of doing stand-alone adventure stories. They could have done that for years and years. Like the 40s serials.
But instead, it's more like a soap opera than an adventure.
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Post by Skaathar on May 13, 2021 19:44:24 GMT
Anyone else think these streeeeaaaming shows are really beginning to water down the MCU? Not really. I think they're fleshing the characters out. The shows may or may not be as high quality as the movies but I wouldn't say that they're watering down the MCU as a whole, especially now during the time of the pandemic.
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