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Post by petrolino on Apr 10, 2021 12:59:11 GMT
Robert Redford was one source of inspiration behind the Skirt's punk anthem, 'Santa Monica Boulevard Boy'. His father was a milkman. When his mother passed away suddenly from septicemia in 1955, he got drunk all the time, became a college dropout on a baseball scholarship, then an itinerant worker. He wandered America, travelled to Paris and Rome. When he returned home, he'd gotten serious and graduated drama in New York. Playwright Neil Simon took him into his theatre company and filmmaker Sydney Pollack took him in to his stock company. Then, filmmaker George Roy Hill fought for him tooth and nail to be a lead in movies, years before Francis Coppola went to bat for Al Pacino, even jettisoning all major studio talk of Marlon Brando at a time when Redford was seen as being Warren Beatty's perennial understudy.
Turned out Redford had been stealing undercover sports footage all along to film the movie 'Downhill Racer' which Roger Ebert reportedly called the greatest sports movie ever made. Steve McQueen and Paul Newman were all about racing cars while Redford was skiiing for Aspen.
He married Lola Van Wagenen, a philosopher and religious theorist who was raised a Mormon in Provo, Utah.
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Post by teleadm on Apr 10, 2021 14:51:00 GMT
I like Robert Redford, but not necessarily all his movies, with a rare combination of good looks and a brain that thinks. Maybe too clean cut for some.  1963 The Virginian episode The Evil That Men Do. One of his last guest star roles.  1962 Dr Kildare episode The Burning Sky.  Too many stairs, showing comedy skills with Mildred Natwick in Barefoot in the Park 1967, and just a few steps to super stardom. |
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Post by politicidal on Apr 10, 2021 17:28:17 GMT
Just think, if the superhero movie boom happened earlier, he could had been Steve Rogers.
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Post by Isapop on Apr 10, 2021 18:11:06 GMT
Just think, if the superhero movie boom happened earlier, he could had been Steve Rogers. He was offered Superman (1978), but turned it down. So did some other A-list stars. Just as well, considering how perfect Christopher Reeve was for it.
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Post by petrolino on Apr 11, 2021 1:17:41 GMT
Just think, if the superhero movie boom happened earlier, he could had been Steve Rogers. He was offered Superman (1978), but turned it down. So did some other A-list stars. Just as well, considering how perfect Christopher Reeve was for it. He's just not a flier to me. He's more grounded. I think it's good he passed on and left it to Christopher Reeve who did a nice job.
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Post by petrolino on Apr 11, 2021 1:21:53 GMT
I like Robert Redford, but not necessarily all his movies, with a rare combination of good looks and a brain that thinks. Maybe too clean cut for some. 1963 The Virginian episode The Evil That Men Do. One of his last guest star roles.
These early roles are when he was said to be floundering, struggling to get a footing. He was in a small group of actors that wasn't as old as the 1950s crew, or as young as the young ones now coming through in the 1960s - Warren Beatty was also cast adrift with Redford but got his film career going in the right direction quicker. Both men owe a debt to filmmaker Arthur Penn.
Two political activists hated and directly targeted by President Richard Nixon. Redford made films like 'The Candidate', 'Three Days Of The Condor' and 'All The President's Men' which directly challenged the system and called upon people to hold their politicians accountable.
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Post by Geddy on Apr 11, 2021 1:40:44 GMT
Apparently Redford turned down The Graduate which made Dustin Hoffman a star.
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Post by petrolino on Apr 11, 2021 1:44:56 GMT
Apparently Redford turned down The Graduate which made Dustin Hoffman a star. I didn't know that. And then they worked together all those years later.
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Post by Isapop on Apr 11, 2021 9:41:30 GMT
He was offered Superman (1978), but turned it down. So did some other A-list stars. Just as well, considering how perfect Christopher Reeve was for it. . I think it's good he passed on and left it to Christopher Reeve who did a nice job. So The Great Waldo Pepper doesn't work for you.
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Post by petrolino on Apr 11, 2021 13:18:27 GMT
He's just not a flier to me. He's more grounded. I think it's good he passed on and left it to Christopher Reeve who did a nice job. So The Great Waldo Pepper doesn't work for you. It finds George Roy Hill in full flight but it had been pre-disastered.
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Post by spiderwort on Apr 11, 2021 14:17:27 GMT
I would add this: Natalie Wood more or less launched his feature career by insisting, against studio resistance, that he co-star opposite her in Inside Daisy Clover (1965). The next year she welcomed him to This Property is Condemned, the film that she approved Sydney Pollack to direct. It was only his second feature film.
Wood was impressed with Redford when she saw him on Broadway in Barefoot in the Park. They also went to high school together at Van Nuys High, though how well they knew each other at that time I'm not sure; he was a couple of years ahead of her. But they became fast friends when working together and remained good friends until the end.
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Post by petrolino on Apr 13, 2021 21:09:21 GMT
I would add this: Natalie Wood more or less launched his feature career by insisting, against studio resistance, that he co-star opposite her in Inside Daisy Clover (1965). The next year she welcomed him to This Property is Condemned, the film that she approved Sydney Pollack to direct. It was only his second feature film.
Wood was impressed with Redford when she saw him on Broadway in Barefoot in the Park. They also went to high school together at Van Nuys High, though how well they knew each other at that time I'm not sure; he was a couple of years ahead of her. But they became fast friends when working together and remained good friends until the end.
That's nice. I see Natalie Wood was born in San Francisco. Perhaps they're listening to Sydney Pollack in this picture (the feller behind them in the flat cap looks strangely familiar).
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Post by marshamae on Apr 13, 2021 22:13:35 GMT
Love Redford I discovered on Inside the actors studio that he thinks more like a painter. He probably should have directed more. I love Ordinary people and he found the performance MARY Tyler Moore had been needing to give her whole career. I love Milagro Beanfield War .he has a great feel for stories with many points of view. I love Quiz Show. Again great performances from an ensemble cast though I doubt he had to direct the actors much.
Of his films as an actor, I am a sucker for the Way we were and out of Africa, but his performance in Three Days of the condor was probably a stronger performance, tougher to pull off. I also really love Havana. His penchant for standing principled in the center of a cultural and political maelstrom, fighting his corner is good screen story telling.
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Post by petrolino on Apr 13, 2021 22:35:15 GMT
Love Redford I discovered on Inside the actors studio that he thinks more like a painter. He probably should have directed more. I love Ordinary people and he found the performance MARY Tyler Moore had been needing to give her whole career. I love Milagro Beanfield War .he has a great feel for stories with many points of view. I love Quiz Show. Again great performances from an ensemble cast though I doubt he had to direct the actors much. Of his films as an actor, I am a sucker for the Way we were and out of Africa, but his performance in Three Days of the condor was probably a stronger performance, tougher to pull off. I also really love Havana. His penchant for standing principled in the center of a cultural and political maelstrom, fighting his corner is good screen story telling.
Around the time the very first building blocks of the Sundance Film Festival and Sundance Institute were being put into motion by Robert Redford, Sydney Pollack and others in order to promote independent American film, Redford commissioned and co-produced 'The Solar Film' (1979 - also known as A Short Film on Solar Energy), which was co-directed by Elaine Bass and Saul Bass. This short environmental film received an Oscar nomination and reflected Redford's interest in nature, the environment and mankind's natural surroundings. Cut forward to one of his final film roles and Redford almost drowned while fillming his own underwater stunts for 'All Is Lost' (2013). Redford set a new gold action standard for Sylvester Stallone to follow aged 77. Stallone's now 74 and still all-action.
“First Blood was quite an interesting odyssey. That movie was cursed. Literally cursed. There were 17 different screenplays. There were some very, very good screenplays. Even Broadway screenwriter David Rein took a shot at it. The book itself, Rambo, is quite… well, when he came back [from Vietnam] Rambo killed over 100 people. You couldn’t stop him; he was evidently damaged. In the book, Trautman was Rambo’s father figure, and the sheriff actually was kind of a version of Rambo: he had been in the Korean War but he was jealous because the Korean War veterans didn’t get the same appreciation, and there was all this hullabaloo about Rambo and the Medal Of Honour. So anyway, I looked at this and nobody wanted to do it. It had been through Robert Redford, Paul Newman, Jimmy Caan, Burt Reynolds, Robert De Niro, Al Pacino… the list went on and on.”
- Sylvester Stallone, Empire
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Post by Prime etc. on Apr 13, 2021 22:58:28 GMT
Apparently Redford turned down The Graduate which made Dustin Hoffman a star. And Burt Ward said he was offered the role too so we have Superman and a Batman reference.
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Post by Isapop on Apr 13, 2021 23:23:54 GMT
Apparently Redford turned down The Graduate which made Dustin Hoffman a star. And Burt Ward said he was offered the role too so we have Superman and a Batman reference.
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Post by Stammerhead on Apr 13, 2021 23:35:49 GMT
Just think, if the superhero movie boom happened earlier, he could had been Steve Rogers. He still managed to join the franchise... 
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