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Post by lowtacks86 on Apr 11, 2021 20:38:37 GMT
Does anyone actually enjoy these? I guess they're like the modern day equivalent of Ed Wood films, though he was actually passionate about what he did, these films are typically just made by gun for hire types that don't really seem to care and are just trying to fill a resume:
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Post by ck100 on Apr 11, 2021 21:22:19 GMT
The problem with these films is they're intentionally bad and not as effective as movies that are unintentionally bad like The Room, Plan 9 From Outer Space, etc.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2021 22:21:22 GMT
I like “Lake Placid” 2 with John Schneider as the local cop.
I watched “Sharknado” 1-3 for comedy purposes, but part 4 and so on weren’t even unintentionally funny. Just bad.
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Post by maxwellperfect on Apr 12, 2021 2:21:22 GMT
There was a time, maybe around ten years ago before the "Sharknado" phenomenon, when I would look forward to sitting down with a pizza and watching a cheesy SciFi original on a Friday night when nothing else was going on (and it rarely was in my sleepy town). It was the most fun you could have with monster movies outside of Mystery Science Theater 3000. The movies got increasingly self-consciously ridiculous. Running gags started, like giant sharks randomly leaping out of the water and destroying a plane flying overhead, and Z-list celebrity cameos. The original "Sharktopus," which featured a scene of Conan O'Brien having his head ripped off and used as a volleyball, was probably the actual apex of the phenomenon. "Sharknado" was the one that finally crossed over to mainstream. By that time the actors were practically winking at you after every gag, so the "look at us being funny and outrageous" vibe got a bit tiresome by that point.
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Post by Prime etc. on Apr 12, 2021 5:34:21 GMT
Sad thing is Roger Corman was involved in some of them-a far cry from his 50s and 60s monster films.
Taking Jaws as a template for deliberately making bad movies... Mystery Science Theater is to blame for this--people cant even watch a movie without making comments. Suspension of disbelief is DOA.
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Post by politicidal on Apr 12, 2021 13:12:23 GMT
Hadn’t seen a single one.
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Post by stefancrosscoe on Apr 12, 2021 15:56:53 GMT
Watched a few of the Bruce Campbell titles, that were released during the early 00s, and I quite enjoyed Terminal Invasion (2002) along with Alien Apocalypse (2005). I believe Campbell did a few others, but have yet to seen those.
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Post by TheOriginalPinky on Apr 12, 2021 18:07:27 GMT
Their movies are just terrible! Sharknado 1 and 2 were good in a "OMG, they're so terrible they're funny!" way, but the rest were just bad.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2021 18:41:44 GMT
There was a time, maybe around ten years ago before the "Sharknado" phenomenon, when I would look forward to sitting down with a pizza and watching a cheesy SciFi original on a Friday night when nothing else was going on (and it rarely was in my sleepy town). It was the most fun you could have with monster movies outside of Mystery Science Theater 3000. The movies got increasingly self-consciously ridiculous. Running gags started, like giant sharks randomly leaping out of the water and destroying a plane flying overhead, and Z-list celebrity cameos. The original "Sharktopus," which featured a scene of Conan O'Brien having his head ripped off and used as a volleyball, was probably the actual apex of the phenomenon. "Sharknado" was the one that finally crossed over to mainstream. By that time the actors were practically winking at you after every gag, so the "look at us being funny and outrageous" vibe got a bit tiresome by that point. Thank you. It’s like SyFy or SciFi (as it used to be) lost sight of the charm of the earlier films.
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Post by Sarge on Apr 13, 2021 2:56:58 GMT
I look at them as the modern-day version of 50's sci-fi schlock. Some are silly and dumb entertainment like the one with piranhas that explode when they jump out of water or the giant crocodile that hides in knee deep streams. Lavalantula brought back the cast of Police Academy, and Mega Python vs Gatoroid had Debbie Gibson wrestling Tiffany. Sharknado was something different and broke Twitter. Are they good movies, mostly not, but can be fun.
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Post by TheOriginalPinky on Apr 13, 2021 12:51:05 GMT
I look at them as the modern-day version of 50's sci-fi schlock. Some are silly and dumb entertainment like the one with piranhas that explode when they jump out of water or the giant crocodile that hides in knee deep streams. Lavalantula brought back the cast of Police Academy, and Mega Python vs Gatoroid had Debbie Gibson wrestling Tiffany. Sharknado was something different and broke Twitter. Are they good movies, mostly not, but can be fun. LOL!!! I forgot about that one!!!
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Post by mgmarshall on Apr 13, 2021 23:46:28 GMT
I remember the three of them Bruce Campbell starred in way back in the early 2000's. I kinda liked those.
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Post by stefancrosscoe on Apr 14, 2021 9:57:14 GMT
I remember the three of them Bruce Campbell starred in way back in the early 2000's. I kinda liked those. Were The Man With The Screaming Brain, part of the ScFy Channels production? I remember I kind of enjoyed that one. Quirky and strange, but some hilarious stuff, and Campbell really put in a good performance there. I notice that I have put a Bruce Campbell sci-fi film, into my to watch later list, on Youtube, but forgotten its name. I guess it is one, where he is not the lead actor, but I will still try to give it a watch, soon.
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Post by mgmarshall on Apr 15, 2021 6:04:51 GMT
I remember the three of them Bruce Campbell starred in way back in the early 2000's. I kinda liked those. Were The Man With The Screaming Brain, part of the ScFy Channels production? I remember I kind of enjoyed that one. Quirky and strange, but some hilarious stuff, and Campbell really put in a good performance there. I notice that I have put a Bruce Campbell sci-fi film, into my to watch later list, on Youtube, but forgotten its name. I guess it is one, where he is not the lead actor, but I will still try to give it a watch, soon. From what I can gather, Man With the Screaming Brain had a minor theatrical release; but Syfy did finance it, and I think its first wide release was premiering on Syfy. I know I saw it when it first aired on the channel.
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Post by Gourmando the Reindeer on Apr 15, 2021 10:43:29 GMT
I hated most of the ones I saw but I recall genuinely enjoying Ice Spiders, Spiders, Dead & Deader which starred Dean Cain and I later read it was meant as a tryout to try to get Sci Fi pick it up as a series and last but not least, Sea Beast.
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Post by Spitfire926f on Apr 15, 2021 16:59:47 GMT
I think my fave is the bigfoot movie with a terrible CGI bigfoot the size of Godzilla, starring Barry Williams and Danny Bonaducci. Alice Cooper shows up as himself, and it instantly made me like him more.
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Post by Prime etc. on Apr 15, 2021 17:15:59 GMT
The 1950s films were serious. It Conquered the World is meant to be taken seriously as a story. The actors take it seriously. These modern films is they are designed to be laughed at. There's no effort or desire to make it a serious fantasy film where you get involved in the story.
These films are like B movie karaoke--you are supposed to participate--Fahrenheit 451 predicted a future where people prefer interactive media to just sitting and listening or watching. This is it!
But on top of that--the monster element is so crudely unimaginative now. Giant snake vs giant shark...
But they ruined the concept by not taking it seriously.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Apr 15, 2021 17:20:52 GMT
The 1950s films were serious. It Conquered the World is meant to be taken seriously as a story. The actors take it seriously. These modern films is they are designed to be laughed at. There's no effort or desire to make it a serious fantasy film where you get involved in the story. These films are like B movie karaoke--you are supposed to participate--Fahrenheit 451 predicted a future where people prefer interactive media to just sitting and listening or watching. This is it! But on top of that--the monster element is so crudely unimaginative now. Giant snake vs giant shark... But they ruined the concept by not taking it seriously. If the Ed Wood biopic was accurate, that guy was really passionate about making b movie scholck, even going as far as pretending to be a devout Christian to get funding for a movie.
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Post by Prime etc. on Apr 15, 2021 18:10:11 GMT
If the Ed Wood biopic was accurate, that guy was really passionate about making b movie scholck, even going as far as pretending to be a devout Christian to get funding for a movie. Bride of the Monster is watchable but in general his films are not up the standards of the time. They are not as well made as the AIP ones.
Ed Wood was joked about in the 80s. The mockery expanded to other filmmakers who were more successful.
You can't watch Plan 9 From Outer Space and not be distracted by the problems with it--but the other ones are usually well done with the acting and the story.
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Post by Sarge on Apr 16, 2021 4:10:30 GMT
The 1950s films were serious.
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