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Post by Power Ranger on Apr 12, 2021 21:10:19 GMT
Releasing Zemo was WRONG. He’s a terrorist. What kind of jackasses are Bucky and Sam? They learned this from their hero, Steve Rogers.
Now Zemo has escaped. Notice how Captain America tried to take him in but Bucky and Sam got in his way? If they all worked together, they may have defeated the Wakandans and secured Zemo for transportation back to prison.
Whatever Zemo does now is Bucky and Sam’s fault.
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Post by dazz on Apr 14, 2021 6:55:22 GMT
Do you ever get tired of this bullshit? like seriously you put no effort into this crap to make it interesting so why bother?
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Post by Power Ranger on Apr 14, 2021 7:30:41 GMT
Do you ever get tired of this bullshit? like seriously you put no effort into this crap to make it interesting so why bother? Can you refute anything I said in the OP? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2021 15:30:52 GMT
This is true. It is on them. They fucked up. It was going to happen sooner or later anyway, we all knew it
Actually, it's solely Bucky's fault. He didnt consult with Falcon breaking him out of prison
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Post by dazz on Apr 14, 2021 18:56:41 GMT
Do you ever get tired of this bullshit? like seriously you put no effort into this crap to make it interesting so why bother? Can you refute anything I said in the OP? Pretty much every point tbh, wanna sample? So what if he is a terrorist? they do get released, governments use them to do their bidding all the time, hell most government sanctioned operatives who work for their nations interest whilst on foreign soil are all pretty much just criminals even terrorists on a countries payroll, use a terrorist to catch a terrorist is hardly out of the range of possibility. Sam didn't do shit it was all Bucky, and if Sam had turned Bucky in asap after Bucky did that you would likely be on heat saying Sam doesn't understand loyalty or some crap, regardless st the end of the day Sam didn't learn shit, Bucky did. Notice how "Captain Jackass America" is only thinking about himself, he wants to be the hero, he wants the glory, how about if he really wanted Zemo neutralised he could have worked with the Wakandans to ensure it rather than fight them in order to try and show off how little big his dick is. Whatever happens now is on all of them, the Wakandans if they had not got involved or worked with Bucky and Sam could have helped fix the problem that Zemo was broke out to help fix, thereby eliminating the need for him and allowing him to be taken back either into custody or executed, same goes for the wannabe's, Sam and Bucky were the only ones with their heads remotely in the game, they were putting their BS to the side to work with Zemo for the greater good, the Wakandans were being selfish putting their revenge above the lives of innocents, and "Cap" was putting his ego and need for glory above the actual mission, to save people, but Bucky and Sam also got sucked into the fight like idiots and let Zemo slip away, all in all everyone was a numb nuts, as is usually the case in these scenarios.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Apr 14, 2021 19:39:47 GMT
Boy, if DC-Fan were not banned they would be ALL OVER this thread.
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Post by Power Ranger on Apr 14, 2021 20:16:45 GMT
Can you refute anything I said in the OP? Pretty much every point tbh, wanna sample? So what if he is a terrorist? they do get released, governments use them to do their bidding all the time, hell most government sanctioned operatives who work for their nations interest whilst on foreign soil are all pretty much just criminals even terrorists on a countries payroll, use a terrorist to catch a terrorist is hardly out of the range of possibility. Sam didn't do shit it was all Bucky, and if Sam had turned Bucky in asap after Bucky did that you would likely be on heat saying Sam doesn't understand loyalty or some crap, regardless st the end of the day Sam didn't learn shit, Bucky did. Notice how "Captain Jackass America" is only thinking about himself, he wants to be the hero, he wants the glory, how about if he really wanted Zemo neutralised he could have worked with the Wakandans to ensure it rather than fight them in order to try and show off how little big his dick is. Whatever happens now is on all of them, the Wakandans if they had not got involved or worked with Bucky and Sam could have helped fix the problem that Zemo was broke out to help fix, thereby eliminating the need for him and allowing him to be taken back either into custody or executed, same goes for the wannabe's, Sam and Bucky were the only ones with their heads remotely in the game, they were putting their BS to the side to work with Zemo for the greater good, the Wakandans were being selfish putting their revenge above the lives of innocents, and "Cap" was putting his ego and need for glory above the actual mission, to save people, but Bucky and Sam also got sucked into the fight like idiots and let Zemo slip away, all in all everyone was a numb nuts, as is usually the case in these scenarios. LOL that’s hilarious. But no, I would say that Sam should have called Rhodey or Ross to apprehend Zemo. |
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Post by dazz on Apr 15, 2021 12:24:50 GMT
Pretty much every point tbh, wanna sample? So what if he is a terrorist? they do get released, governments use them to do their bidding all the time, hell most government sanctioned operatives who work for their nations interest whilst on foreign soil are all pretty much just criminals even terrorists on a countries payroll, use a terrorist to catch a terrorist is hardly out of the range of possibility. Sam didn't do shit it was all Bucky, and if Sam had turned Bucky in asap after Bucky did that you would likely be on heat saying Sam doesn't understand loyalty or some crap, regardless st the end of the day Sam didn't learn shit, Bucky did. Notice how "Captain Jackass America" is only thinking about himself, he wants to be the hero, he wants the glory, how about if he really wanted Zemo neutralised he could have worked with the Wakandans to ensure it rather than fight them in order to try and show off how little big his dick is. Whatever happens now is on all of them, the Wakandans if they had not got involved or worked with Bucky and Sam could have helped fix the problem that Zemo was broke out to help fix, thereby eliminating the need for him and allowing him to be taken back either into custody or executed, same goes for the wannabe's, Sam and Bucky were the only ones with their heads remotely in the game, they were putting their BS to the side to work with Zemo for the greater good, the Wakandans were being selfish putting their revenge above the lives of innocents, and "Cap" was putting his ego and need for glory above the actual mission, to save people, but Bucky and Sam also got sucked into the fight like idiots and let Zemo slip away, all in all everyone was a numb nuts, as is usually the case in these scenarios. LOL that’s hilarious. But no, I would say that Sam should have called Rhodey or Ross to apprehend Zemo. Again such low effort and stupid, why would he need to call them if he is turning them in ASAP, that means they never leave the building so there is no need to call anyone else, like I said why do you even bother with such low effort useless crap? Put some effort into the bullshit, atleast then it maybe entertaining, as it is it's just pointlessly stupid.
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Post by Power Ranger on Apr 15, 2021 13:20:54 GMT
LOL that’s hilarious. But no, I would say that Sam should have called Rhodey or Ross to apprehend Zemo. Again such low effort and stupid, why would he need to call them if he is turning them in ASAP, that means they never leave the building so there is no need to call anyone else, like I said why do you even bother with such low effort useless crap? Put some effort into the bullshit, atleast then it maybe entertaining, as it is it's just pointlessly stupid. Rhodey is more powerful than Bucky and Ross has the army at his disposal. As it is, Karli is still on the run, because Sam and Bucky were too weak to contain her. |
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Post by dazz on Apr 15, 2021 15:32:28 GMT
Again such low effort and stupid, why would he need to call them if he is turning them in ASAP, that means they never leave the building so there is no need to call anyone else, like I said why do you even bother with such low effort useless crap? Put some effort into the bullshit, atleast then it maybe entertaining, as it is it's just pointlessly stupid. Rhodey is more powerful than Bucky and Ross has the army at his disposal. As it is, Karli is still on the run, because Sam and Bucky were too weak to contain her. Doesn't even address my point, if Sam turned Bucky in as soon as he saw Zemo, therby also turning in Zemo why prey tell would he need to get Rhodey or Ross's help? Also really rely on Ross? that guy is like 0 for 1000, how he has a job is ridiculous and he's constantly been made to look like a putz so why would Sam, and intelligent and actually competent person turn to that glory hog grand standing moron for help?
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Post by sdrew13163 on Apr 20, 2021 0:27:37 GMT
I’ve seen the first four so I’m not totally caught up, but I tend to agree actually. They definitely aren’t the villains, but they make some bad calls. The entire show as a whole has an issue with dealing with these things.
Walker is kind of a dick and that kill at the end of E4 was just straight up murder, but the show keeps wanting us to love Zemo and this obviously terrible Karli girl while doing everything it can to vilify Walker.
Sam and Bucky are trying to do the “right” thing to a fault. They’re letting terrorists run free and keep on killing innocents because...Karli is cute and Zemo is smart?
I can get the latter. Zemo had a role to play, of course he was going to turn, but it was a calculated risk that backfired. Hating Walker from the get-go and subverting him at every turn while simultaneously simping for a terrorist that literally admits to having no remorse for her murderous actions is just pure lunacy.
This is one thing I’ve noticed about the MCU - morals/ethics only count when it’s convenient.
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