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Post by Prime etc. on Apr 14, 2021 15:50:33 GMT
No, it's to illustrate Tony Stark's personality who I would guess isn't into classical music, prime etc.
So you are saying that a movie score should reflect the listening interests of the characters on screen?
That's a new one I haven't heard before.
I don't think Dutch's team in Predator was a fan of Alan Silvestri music and yet they used it in dramatic moments in the film.
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Post by Power Ranger on Apr 14, 2021 15:57:27 GMT
I wish it wasn’t. But either way, I think that with or without Trevor, The Mandarin was intentionally made to be non-Asian, to get away from Fu Manchu styled Asian villains. And I think the Trevor twist may have been designed to make him not Muslim. So then they’re running out of options for the Mandarin’s origins with those two decisions. But attacking neo-cons? Oh yeah, you can do that. So they did opted for that. Oh yeah, he was definitely made to be white to avoid perceived cultural stereotyping; but he was also made into a Bin Laden type because that kind of terrorist was easily recognizable to audiences. And as I mentioned, the spooky speech patterns seemed like a wink at Joker from TDK. They were leading the audience one way, and then turned that trope on its head. I liked it. I don't see how Killian is supposed to be a neocon, especially when you consider how much he has in common with the villains in previous Iron Man films. Not Killian, but the Vice President. |
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Post by Power Ranger on Apr 14, 2021 16:00:15 GMT
No, it's to illustrate Tony Stark's personality who I would guess isn't into classical music, prime etc.
So you are saying that a movie score should reflect the listening interests of the characters on screen?
That's a new one I haven't heard before.
I don't think Dutch's team in Predator was a fan of Alan Silvestri music and yet they used it in dramatic moments in the film.
In Avengers, didn’t Iron Man project rock music (was it Black Sabbath or AC/DC, I don’t recall) out of his suit, when he arrived in Germany? |
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Post by Downey on Apr 14, 2021 16:02:41 GMT
No, it's to illustrate Tony Stark's personality who I would guess isn't into classical music, prime etc.
So you are saying that a movie score should reflect the listening interests of the characters on screen?
That's a new one I haven't heard before.
I don't think Dutch's team in Predator was a fan of Alan Silvestri music and yet they used it in dramatic moments in the film.
I didn't say anything about "should" I said the music was played to show Tony's vibe. I'm wasting my time explaining concepts like vibes, mood and atmosphere to one of the most antisocial emotionless oddball beings online but at least I tried. |
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Post by ReyKahuka on Apr 14, 2021 16:24:59 GMT
Oh yeah, he was definitely made to be white to avoid perceived cultural stereotyping; but he was also made into a Bin Laden type because that kind of terrorist was easily recognizable to audiences. And as I mentioned, the spooky speech patterns seemed like a wink at Joker from TDK. They were leading the audience one way, and then turned that trope on its head. I liked it. I don't see how Killian is supposed to be a neocon, especially when you consider how much he has in common with the villains in previous Iron Man films. Not Killian, but the Vice President. You can read it that way if you want. He seemed more like an archetypal villain to me, power hungry and scheming from the behind the scenes. He wasn't the focus of the film so I hardly see it as some in-your-face political statement. I can see why you didn't like it if you thought it was some heavy handed commentary opposite your own personal politics.
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Post by Prime etc. on Apr 14, 2021 17:51:15 GMT
In Avengers, didn’t Iron Man project rock music (was it Black Sabbath or AC/DC, I don’t recall) out of his suit, when he arrived in Germany? I dont know but that isn't the case with the movie score being used in action scenes. If we follow that logic then Luke should be playing some kind of Sy Snootles music in the Death Star trench. The reason we hear an Earth-like musical score is because it is exciting and epic-sounding, who cares what the character has a personal preference for. There might be an occasional situation where it can be used but not in a superhero most of the time.
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Post by ReyKahuka on Apr 14, 2021 20:14:37 GMT
So you are saying that a movie score should reflect the listening interests of the characters on screen?
That's a new one I haven't heard before.
I don't think Dutch's team in Predator was a fan of Alan Silvestri music and yet they used it in dramatic moments in the film.
In Avengers, didn’t Iron Man project rock music (was it Black Sabbath or AC/DC, I don’t recall) out of his suit, when he arrived in Germany? Yeah he hacked the quinjet and projected AC/DC out of that.
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Post by darkreviewer2013 on May 9, 2021 5:38:24 GMT
Still one of the best MCU movies and my favourite Phase 1 instalment. It possesses a grounded feel that we don't get to see again until The Winter Soldier. It's quite a dark film at times and everything that happens feels genuinely consequential. Robert Downey Jr. excels as Tony Stark, exuding charisma in every frame. It's a role he was born to play. And Jeff Bridges is perfect as a low-key but effective secret nemesis. Sure, the final act is a tad generic, but the movie never loses its momentum. It would take until 2014 before they made another MCU movie that I'd rate as highly.
Too bad Favreau couldn't provide us with a more memorable follow-up.
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