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Post by politicidal on Apr 14, 2021 15:45:50 GMT
Even with the prospect of going into space, it's still kind of weird that Han is back.
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Post by Mulder and Scully on Apr 14, 2021 16:52:16 GMT
The last couple of these films have been awful.
These movies have gotten tiresome now.
Now this series has entered Transformers level bad.
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Post by Archelaus on Apr 14, 2021 17:49:40 GMT
This series wears its ridiculousness like a badge of honor and the fans will eat it up.
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Post by politicidal on Apr 14, 2021 18:48:39 GMT
This series wears its ridiculousness like a badge of honor and the fans will eat it up. I've been a big fan since Fast Five came out. Most of the time, I've been forgiving even when they go into entirely different genres like the spy-fi stuff in Hobbs & Shaw. That doesn't bother me. But things like Han being alive or them killing off Elena in Fate of the Furious have bugged me.
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Post by Archelaus on Apr 14, 2021 19:45:26 GMT
This series wears its ridiculousness like a badge of honor and the fans will eat it up. I've been a big fan since Fast Five came out. Most of the time, I've been forgiving even when they go into entirely different genres like the spy-fi stuff in Hobbs & Shaw. That doesn't bother me. But things like Han being alive or them killing off Elena in Fate of the Furious have bugged me. Retconning Han's death was a narrative mistake. No one can come out unscathed when your car erupts in flames.
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Apr 15, 2021 0:10:57 GMT
Looks cool to me.
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Post by leesilm on Apr 17, 2021 1:40:46 GMT
Honestly, I still remember my sister dragging me to see the first two and then I had no interaction with them until Paul Walker passed and my sister dragged me to the last one he was in. Ended up watching a marathon with her to see the ones I'd missed. Han was one of my three favourite characters (Letty and Tej are the other two) out of the main crew, so I will never complain about bringing him back. I mean crying over his body brought Dom back from the dead and they 'flew' a car from one hotel tower to another, basically Tom Cruise-physics and logic apply to these movies, and for some no-brains-required popcorn-flicks, they aren't half bad so...
PS: They totally had me at Helen Mirren. I don't care what, if any plot, they have. I get Helen Mirren, C.Theron, plus Letty, Tej, and Han are back, and the new girl Ramsey has become a huge favourite for me.
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Post by moviemanjackson on Apr 18, 2021 0:20:06 GMT
Staying away from all trailers after the first one. The F&F ones tend to spoil everything in the movie.
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Post by forca84 on Apr 18, 2021 18:04:40 GMT
Jeez... I haven't watched any since Paul Walker died... Not sure the interest is there for me anymore.
Meanwhile my Parents are in their 70's and love the movies. (And also the Marvel movies. Me not so much. But I've watched several with them.)
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Post by politicidal on May 5, 2021 18:11:04 GMT
Vin Diesel wants Michael Caine to join the franchise. That'd be neat.
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Post by leesilm on May 6, 2021 5:16:40 GMT
Well, he was fantastic alongside D.Johnson in JOURNEY TO MYSTERIOUS ISLAND, so I could see him having a hoot in F&F. Also, if they let he and Mirren work together, perhaps he's a former partner-in-crime for her?
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Post by politicidal on May 6, 2021 18:49:05 GMT
Eva Mendes may return as well.
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Post by politicidal on May 18, 2021 15:51:59 GMT
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Post by Vits on Sept 1, 2021 7:37:49 GMT
F9: THE FAST SAGA was supposed to come out in 2020, but it got pushed back a year. I see that as a blessing in disguise... because it has been released on the FAST & FURIOUS franchise's 20th anniversary! As usual, we get action sequences that would be more enjoyable if the characters were actual super-heroes (I can't suspend my disbelief to this degree!) and a scene where Dom Toretto talks about the importance of family, blood or not, while eating meat and drinking beer. However, both this one and THE FATE OF THE FURIOUS make the same mistake: To pretend that everyone present at the barbecue is part of the circle. Mia Toretto returns, because she felt she needed to be a part of this particular mission. And while she does contribute to saving the day, it's odd how she doesn't appear in the flashbacks that explain her family history (including the opening scene, which by the way feels it came from an entirely different movie in terms of tone). Well, she does appear in one, but you wouldn't know that unless you read the credits. She's not referred to by name, she doesn't have any lines and she camera doesn't even focus on her in a way that would make the viewer think she's anything but an extra. By the way, there's a scene where she's supposed to be speaking Spanish, yet it's clearly Portuguese. There's another scene where Dom's son Brian asks "Where is God?" and his dad replies "In your heart." What can could I say to that but "Barf!" Now, does this installment surpass the previous ones in any way? Yes! More than one, actually: 1) The best music score. 2) The biggest number of cameos, whether it's a returning cast member and/or a celebrity. 3) The largest quantity of self-referential jokes. I'm sorry, but acknowledging that you've written your heroes to be practically invincible (which decreases the stakes) doesn't mean much if you keep doing it regardless. Also, don't have your characters talk about the importance of the laws of physics when they inhabit such a cartoonish world. 4) The most extensive amount of pop culture references, which eventually gets tiresome. There's even a point where it feels like the story comes to a halt just so 2 people can compare the situation they're in to other movies. It goes something like this: "I'm like Luke Skywalker." "No, you're not." "You're right. I'm like Han Solo." "Wrong again. You're like Yoda." "Ah, because I'm so powerful?" "No, because you're a puppet." Ummm... A puppet is used in real life to portray him, but the character itself isn't one, so this exchange doesn't work. 5) The most shameless use of the "Revealing a dead character is actually alive" trope. Don't worry; it's not a spoiler, because all of the advertising features Han Seoul-Oh. The explanation of how he survived causes more questions than answers due to the lack of details. Also, just because you understand a situation like this from a logical point of view, it doesn't mean your emotions will allow you to accept it. Seeing a person you believed to be deceased in person messes with your head, even if someone else tells you in advance that they're about to show up. Also, if that person staged their own death, you would probably resent them from keeping that a secret. 5/10 ------------------------------------- You can read comments of other movies in my blog.
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